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Why is this article called Phalangeriformes??/ The creature is called a possum. That's what it is commonly known as. In Australia, they are everywhere, they would never be called Phalangeriformes. It seems a bit bizarre to call the article by this title, and confusing to the user. Deathlibrarian ( talk) 13:10, 8 March 2019 (UTC) Wikipedia policy on article titles should see this article as "possum" or may be to stop it being confused with the US Opposum "Possum (Australian)"
Possums are really common to North America. I don't know what the subspecies is called. But you see them all the time. And I've accidentally run over them at times. I've seen them in both Oregon and New York. They must have been introduced from Australia but they are now well established on the north american continent. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.233.148.2 ( talk) 05:04, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
I cannot follow how "possum" is technically incorrect for the American animal when the Australian critter derived its name from the American one. Seems backward to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.92.79.239 ( talk) 13:57, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
The first sentence reads as though there are only about 60 possums in Australia, rather than about 60 species of possum. Snottygobble 05:39, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
Is it worth considering http://www.environment.sa.gov.au/biodiversity/possums.html as an external link? 203.63.92.105 03:00, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
Oppose. One of the silliest ideas I've ever heard. Snottygobble 03:43, 8 June 2006 (UTC) Bugger this. I'm going to speedy close this as just plain wrong. They're not even in the same order. Snottygobble 03:46, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
"An open compost bin in a backyard becomes an enticing smorgasbord for a hungry urban possum"
Lol.
The non-native Virginia Opossum was a little hard to find from this page. Should this be fixed? I didn't know Opossums were native to Australia myself Thadk 06:00, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
I've deleted "unlike most names applied to Australian fauna in the early years of European colonisation, happens to be accurate: the opossums of America are distant relatives". While they are distantly related by the fact that they are both marsupials, the name is still not accurate and it's a point of confusion for too many people. You might as well say that "hedgehog" is an accurate name because hedgehogs are distantly related to pigs (they're both placental mammals after all). Rwestera ( talk) 00:11, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
Clarification would be nice, though. I don't understand it after reading both articles.-- Mainstreetmark ( talk) 03:41, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
The article states that possums are protected, but this is not the case in all parts of the world. Perhaps the regions where the possum *are* protected should be specified? They aren't where I live. And they don't taste bad either. :P -- TaranRampersad 16:09, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
There should be a "Possums in Popular Culture" section to mention things like the childrens book "Possum Magic" and Dame Edna Everage's catchphrase "Hello possums!". Candy-Panda 06:28, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
What do you call a baby possum? A joey? A kitten? A cub? A kit? A pup?-- ZayZayEM 03:58, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
Hello, I removed the section that states that "All possums are omnivorous". My correction was removed. All possums are not omnivorous. This article looks foolish when just one paragraph later two possums are linked to in the statement "The two most common species of possums, the Common Brushtail and Common Ringtail, are also among the largest." In both articles about these possums it is stated that they are herbivores. If I can't make the correction then please sort it out yourself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.228.90.99 ( talk) 01:12, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Possums eat fruit and other good sources of calcium! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.70.11.152 ( talk) 03:20, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
I compared the larger possums to a 'well-fed domestic cat' because I've never seen one 120cm (4 feet) long! Maybe they grow bigger in other parts of Australia. Pavium ( talk) 07:23, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
I removed the following:
The white lemuroid possum, only found in the mountain forests of northern Queensland, has been named as the first mammal species to be driven extinct by man-made global warming. The White Possum has not been seen in over three years. These possums cannot survive extended temperatures over 30 degrees C, which occurred in 2005. A final expedition to uncover any surviving White Possums is scheduled for 2009. ref: http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,24742053-952,00.html White possum said to be first victim of global warming]
First off, this is a news reference and, as such, is not a very reliable source for science info. Second, which species does this info refer to? There is no "White Lemuroid Possum" in the species listing. The closest is the Lemur-like Ringtail Possum, which is also called the "Lemuroid Ringtail Possum". there is the same reference used on that article. This species is Near Threatened and has two forms, a white one and a brown one. The white form has not been seen in 3 years, a match to the article's information and so perhaps this is what the news article was referring to. If so, it was not a species extinction, but a population extinction. - UtherSRG (talk) 18:09, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
How serious is [2] http://www.weebls-stuff.com/songs/Australia/ besides being funny? 93.203.183.252 ( talk) 00:58, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
This page seems to be a favorite for repeated vandalism. Does someone think it would help to protect or semi-protect the article so continual vandalism reverts can be avoided? Otr500 ( talk) 03:29, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
I've reverted the image back to the File:Brushtail possum.jpg image, since it shows the possum with clear lighting and allows the reader to see the possum's characteristics clearly. This image allows the reader to gain a better understanding of what a possum looks likes, as compared to File:Possum in Sydney, Australia on 11.11.2008.jpg, since the possum is partially hidden and the lighting doesn't allow us to see it clearly. Thoughts? Netalarm talk 06:25, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Question: Why isn't this fantastic image not the lead image of this article? - Amog | Talk • contribs 13:15, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
I have heard that possum attacks are the number one reason for a day off work in Australia. Why is this not mentioned in the article? Sure this is an important thing to tell about this subject. - 128.214.214.34 ( talk) 10:30, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Phalangeriformes/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
This really needs an expert to correct the inaccuracies that litter the article. Comments about diets, weights, size and names are all incorrect. |
Last edited at 10:10, 21 July 2009 (UTC). Substituted at 03:16, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved. Possum to
Phalangeriformes and
Possum (disambiguation) to
Possum. Note, due to +500 links redirect here I'll take some time to fix incoming links before moving it. (
non-admin closure)
©
Tbhotch
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en-2.5). 04:40, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
– This is a long time coming, but simply put, this is not the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC of the term "Possum". Possum is also commonly used for "Opossum", and is what Canadian, American, and many other readers are really looking for when searching for that term (and indeed, that's the origin of the name of Australian possums). Opossum gets more page views than Possum, and it's likely that a lot of hits for "Possum" are actually looking for the other. The incoming links show many misdirected links intending opossum, and the comments in the previous sections show confusion going back 10 years. Other disambiguation options for the Australasian possums are available, but to avoid confusion the dab page should be at the base name Possum. Cúchullain t/ c 16:23, 26 September 2016 (UTC)--Relisting. — AjaxSmack 04:43, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
@ Trilletrollet: I've noticed your recent edits on the paraphyly of Phalangeriformes. The Phalangeriformes in MSW3 has two superfamilies, Phalangeroidea and Petauroidea, so I assume it is this arrangement that is paraphyletic. Some newer treatments (e.g. the ASM's MDD) have moved Petauroidea into Macropodiformes, which again I assume is a response to the paraphyletic definition. I haven't looked at the recent literature, so this is more a question. — Jts1882 | talk 07:23, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
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Why is this article called Phalangeriformes??/ The creature is called a possum. That's what it is commonly known as. In Australia, they are everywhere, they would never be called Phalangeriformes. It seems a bit bizarre to call the article by this title, and confusing to the user. Deathlibrarian ( talk) 13:10, 8 March 2019 (UTC) Wikipedia policy on article titles should see this article as "possum" or may be to stop it being confused with the US Opposum "Possum (Australian)"
Possums are really common to North America. I don't know what the subspecies is called. But you see them all the time. And I've accidentally run over them at times. I've seen them in both Oregon and New York. They must have been introduced from Australia but they are now well established on the north american continent. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.233.148.2 ( talk) 05:04, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
I cannot follow how "possum" is technically incorrect for the American animal when the Australian critter derived its name from the American one. Seems backward to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.92.79.239 ( talk) 13:57, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
The first sentence reads as though there are only about 60 possums in Australia, rather than about 60 species of possum. Snottygobble 05:39, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
Is it worth considering http://www.environment.sa.gov.au/biodiversity/possums.html as an external link? 203.63.92.105 03:00, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
Oppose. One of the silliest ideas I've ever heard. Snottygobble 03:43, 8 June 2006 (UTC) Bugger this. I'm going to speedy close this as just plain wrong. They're not even in the same order. Snottygobble 03:46, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
"An open compost bin in a backyard becomes an enticing smorgasbord for a hungry urban possum"
Lol.
The non-native Virginia Opossum was a little hard to find from this page. Should this be fixed? I didn't know Opossums were native to Australia myself Thadk 06:00, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
I've deleted "unlike most names applied to Australian fauna in the early years of European colonisation, happens to be accurate: the opossums of America are distant relatives". While they are distantly related by the fact that they are both marsupials, the name is still not accurate and it's a point of confusion for too many people. You might as well say that "hedgehog" is an accurate name because hedgehogs are distantly related to pigs (they're both placental mammals after all). Rwestera ( talk) 00:11, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
Clarification would be nice, though. I don't understand it after reading both articles.-- Mainstreetmark ( talk) 03:41, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
The article states that possums are protected, but this is not the case in all parts of the world. Perhaps the regions where the possum *are* protected should be specified? They aren't where I live. And they don't taste bad either. :P -- TaranRampersad 16:09, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
There should be a "Possums in Popular Culture" section to mention things like the childrens book "Possum Magic" and Dame Edna Everage's catchphrase "Hello possums!". Candy-Panda 06:28, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
What do you call a baby possum? A joey? A kitten? A cub? A kit? A pup?-- ZayZayEM 03:58, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
Hello, I removed the section that states that "All possums are omnivorous". My correction was removed. All possums are not omnivorous. This article looks foolish when just one paragraph later two possums are linked to in the statement "The two most common species of possums, the Common Brushtail and Common Ringtail, are also among the largest." In both articles about these possums it is stated that they are herbivores. If I can't make the correction then please sort it out yourself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.228.90.99 ( talk) 01:12, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Possums eat fruit and other good sources of calcium! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.70.11.152 ( talk) 03:20, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
I compared the larger possums to a 'well-fed domestic cat' because I've never seen one 120cm (4 feet) long! Maybe they grow bigger in other parts of Australia. Pavium ( talk) 07:23, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
I removed the following:
The white lemuroid possum, only found in the mountain forests of northern Queensland, has been named as the first mammal species to be driven extinct by man-made global warming. The White Possum has not been seen in over three years. These possums cannot survive extended temperatures over 30 degrees C, which occurred in 2005. A final expedition to uncover any surviving White Possums is scheduled for 2009. ref: http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,24742053-952,00.html White possum said to be first victim of global warming]
First off, this is a news reference and, as such, is not a very reliable source for science info. Second, which species does this info refer to? There is no "White Lemuroid Possum" in the species listing. The closest is the Lemur-like Ringtail Possum, which is also called the "Lemuroid Ringtail Possum". there is the same reference used on that article. This species is Near Threatened and has two forms, a white one and a brown one. The white form has not been seen in 3 years, a match to the article's information and so perhaps this is what the news article was referring to. If so, it was not a species extinction, but a population extinction. - UtherSRG (talk) 18:09, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
How serious is [2] http://www.weebls-stuff.com/songs/Australia/ besides being funny? 93.203.183.252 ( talk) 00:58, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
This page seems to be a favorite for repeated vandalism. Does someone think it would help to protect or semi-protect the article so continual vandalism reverts can be avoided? Otr500 ( talk) 03:29, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
I've reverted the image back to the File:Brushtail possum.jpg image, since it shows the possum with clear lighting and allows the reader to see the possum's characteristics clearly. This image allows the reader to gain a better understanding of what a possum looks likes, as compared to File:Possum in Sydney, Australia on 11.11.2008.jpg, since the possum is partially hidden and the lighting doesn't allow us to see it clearly. Thoughts? Netalarm talk 06:25, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Question: Why isn't this fantastic image not the lead image of this article? - Amog | Talk • contribs 13:15, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
I have heard that possum attacks are the number one reason for a day off work in Australia. Why is this not mentioned in the article? Sure this is an important thing to tell about this subject. - 128.214.214.34 ( talk) 10:30, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Phalangeriformes/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
This really needs an expert to correct the inaccuracies that litter the article. Comments about diets, weights, size and names are all incorrect. |
Last edited at 10:10, 21 July 2009 (UTC). Substituted at 03:16, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved. Possum to
Phalangeriformes and
Possum (disambiguation) to
Possum. Note, due to +500 links redirect here I'll take some time to fix incoming links before moving it. (
non-admin closure)
©
Tbhotch
™ (
en-2.5). 04:40, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
– This is a long time coming, but simply put, this is not the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC of the term "Possum". Possum is also commonly used for "Opossum", and is what Canadian, American, and many other readers are really looking for when searching for that term (and indeed, that's the origin of the name of Australian possums). Opossum gets more page views than Possum, and it's likely that a lot of hits for "Possum" are actually looking for the other. The incoming links show many misdirected links intending opossum, and the comments in the previous sections show confusion going back 10 years. Other disambiguation options for the Australasian possums are available, but to avoid confusion the dab page should be at the base name Possum. Cúchullain t/ c 16:23, 26 September 2016 (UTC)--Relisting. — AjaxSmack 04:43, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
@ Trilletrollet: I've noticed your recent edits on the paraphyly of Phalangeriformes. The Phalangeriformes in MSW3 has two superfamilies, Phalangeroidea and Petauroidea, so I assume it is this arrangement that is paraphyletic. Some newer treatments (e.g. the ASM's MDD) have moved Petauroidea into Macropodiformes, which again I assume is a response to the paraphyletic definition. I haven't looked at the recent literature, so this is more a question. — Jts1882 | talk 07:23, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
Treeview of MSW3
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Jts1882 |
talk 13:25, 28 April 2021 (UTC)