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On 17 October 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to Gaza Metro. The result of the discussion was Not moved. |
While I agree that this is an encyclopedic topic, it would make sense to define the scope of the article in a clear way. Gaza Strip smuggling tunnels already exists and refers to the Gaza-Egypt border. I see three alternatives:
Of course, coherence of the topic, rather than either side's propaganda interests should determine the scope.-- Carwil ( talk) 15:42, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
Let's be clear that the terms "attack tunnel," and "terror tunnel," as well as "resistance tunnel" ( [1]), are POV terms that impute a purpose to the tunnels which is disputed (thus the opposed terms). We should attribute the terms in the lead and describe the uses to which the tunnels are put in the rest of the article without these words prefacing tunnels.-- Carwil ( talk) 15:42, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
However, since "Palestinian tunnels" is too overencompassing, and there is already an article on the smuggling tunnels, we need an appropriate title. If "attack tunnels" is too POV (which is dubious), perhaps Palestinian offensive tunnels. Thoughts? Coretheapple ( talk) 16:16, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→Please pardon for not knowing how to work Wiki. I have tried to change part of te main article. The part I try to change is the portion which claims "Hamas officials admitted up to 160 children died digging the tunnels." However when I click the reference links,#9 and #4, well #9 does not exist at all and #4 references #9 in the #4's article. In fact, every claim from news sources regarding the 160 children dying refer to the report that is no longer available at #9's link. Honestly, all information on the page that uses #9 as support should be removed.
Again, apologies for not knowing how to work wiki to edit properly. Thanks for any help.←←←←←←←←←←←←←←←←←← — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.242.32.104 ( talk) 18:35, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
There is currently a claim in the lead that the topic is "also referred to as...terror tunnels". The two sources for the claim are an Israeli Ministry of Foreign press release and a Washington Post article that uses the term in quotation marks, quoting from an Israeli military press release. A more accurate and Wikipedia compliant way to represent the sources would be to say that the topic has been referred to as "terror tunnels" by the Israeli military and Israel Ministry of foreign Affairs.
But then a second question arises. Is it due/balanced to discuss Israel's preferred public diplomacy term for the topic in the first sentence of the lead? Dlv999 ( talk) 14:48, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
In this article, it says:
"The tunnel construction employed in the 2014 Israel Gaza War has its origins in an attempt to sidestep the economic asphyxiation, what Palestinians call a siege (hesar) of the Gaza Strip economy, by the Israeli economic blockade on the coastal enclave which has been in effect since 2007."
It says the warfare tunnels had it's origins due to smuggling as a result of the blockade since 2007, but Gilad Shalit was abducted in 2006 via tunnels before the blockade.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/world/2007-06-25-israeli-palestinian_N.htm
"Shalit was captured on June 25, 2006, by militants from Hamas and two allied groups who tunneled into Israel from the Gaza Strip. "
Also, the term "asphyxiation" doesn't seem like a NPOV term. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Knightmare72589 ( talk • contribs) 18:16, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
I added a bunch of citation tags today because many thoughts are not referenced. Even if the following thought is the same ref it really should be in both places because how does one know that its in the next ref? Its not very clean this way. Also the sentence "October, 2013, IDF discovery of an "attack" or "terror" tunnel at Kibbutz Ein HaShlosha." makes no sense. It seems to be only half a thought. Also why does it have its own section? - Galatz ( talk) 00:42, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
I'm editing the estimates of the cost of the tunnels pretty closely because while there's a lot of verbiage out on news and blog sites, most of it is unattributed: "are estimated to have cost," "is said to cost," or even "some have said." Even a news source that meets WP:RS reporting that kind of statement does not provide us with a verifiable, attributable source, which is necessary for inclusion on Wikipedia. However, I will do my best to include attributed comments on the cost here. As best I can tell, all of the estimates being cited here come from the Israeli military, but if there's another source, please add it. Since we can't verify that Hamas did spend whatever is estimated, we must begin such sentences with "X estimates…" not "Hamas spent…"-- Carwil ( talk) 01:31, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
The following sentence clearly fall under the category of "Exceptional claims require exceptional sources":
For now, the Times of Israel article cited is not such an exceptional source. In fact, it does not refer to "an IDF report," but to the Mako media network's army blog, which in turn cites an unnamed source. If this issue attracts the reporting of reliable sources, it can be re-added to the article, but I'm removing it for now.-- Carwil ( talk) 01:44, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
I added an article from Army Radio stating that the tunnels were for military not civilian targets. Sorry that I don't have the chops to make the reference fancier but it does work, please improve it. All the claims either way seem to be citation needed or "a spokesman" or "an israeli newspaper." This seemed one step more direct than the Times of Israel. The reference to ---later the same day it was reported that 31 tunnels were found--- seemed out of place to me , but I did not want to take it on myself to delete any text. Gentlemath ( talk) 23:06, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
@ Tritomex: I see that you have added citation needed tag for the last sentence. That is just a summary of the article, basically the section "Strategic objectives", per WP:LEAD and WP:SS. As far as I know, there have been no attacks on any civilian communities so far. The Israeli view that they are constructed for "terrorist attacks on Israel" is already present in the paragraph. I have added a couple of citations from the section down below. Kingsindian ( talk) 12:24, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
@ Wlglunight93: Regarding your edits.
Let me know if there are any questions/issues. Kingsindian ( talk) 06:47, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
I removed the following sentences, which User:Wlglunight93 has restored:
The source cited in both cases is Nicolas Pelham's article in the Journal of Palestine Studies in 2011/12 ( full text here). A second source, a 2014 Jerusalem Post article, uses Pelham as its sole basis of information, but misrepresents Pelham's claims about child labor. As I've outlined at Talk:Gaza_Strip_smuggling_tunnels#Child_labor:_Source_text, Pelham's article refers to child labor within already built tunnels, and their supervision by the Hamas governing authorities' Tunnel Affairs Commission.
(An additional point: Most smuggling tunnels were built and run privately and precisely those tunnels were under the TAC. As Pelham states, "From the outset, there was a de facto distinction between the factional tunnels, used for military and operational purposes and off-limits to government inspectors and customs authorities, and the privately owned tunnels, which were Gaza’s primary source of imports." The factional tunnels were those controlled by Hamas, Islamic Jihad, etc.)
In restoring the text, Wlglunight93 argues that the Jerusalem Post's statement that:
to justify the text in this article. Per WP:RS, peer-reviewed sources like the Pelham article are preferable. Also according to this policy, "For information about academic topics, scholarly sources and high-quality non-scholarly sources are generally better than news reports." In this case, we have the original academic source and a misdescribed report of it. I am barred by the 1RR on Israel-Palestine topics from removing this text again today, so I offer proponents of this text 24 hours to discuss the matter here. If there is no rebuttal, I will remove it again.
Finally, I did consider rewording the text, as I have done on Gaza_Strip_smuggling_tunnels, but unless and until there is a direct parallel—that is, reliable reports of children smuggling through these military tunnels, it doesn't seem to be a relevant fact to repeat on this page.-- Carwil ( talk) 01:18, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
I have reverted this . Multiple reasons:
Kingsindian describes pretty clearly the problems with this Dershowitz interpretation:
In addition, WP:RS advises against using op-ed pieces to source factual content. Now, Dershowitz's comment about sovereignty is indeed his opinion, but this sentence puts in two other claims (proximity to kindergartens, and a mass casualty attack) that are dubious at best. As we see later in the article, the tunnel wasn't so much proximate to a kindergarten to the village of Sufa, which was over a kilometer away. And the notion of mass casualty attack is a POV claim that must be attributed to the Israeli government.
@ יניב הורון: has reverted my edit removing Dershowitz, and is invited to discuss the matter here.-- Carwil ( talk) 03:37, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
I have reorganized lead according to MOS:LEAD. This is the scheme I have used:
I have removed a few duplicate lines, while keeping references intact. These are already present in the lead, either literally or paraphrased.
Kingsindian ♝ ♚ 17:27, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: No consensus to move. I can see logic on both sides of the argument, but neither side has a consensus. If the article is expanded to include West Bank tunnels, then a move would certainly become in order then. — Amakuru ( talk) 09:42, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
Palestinian tunnel warfare in the Gaza Strip →
Palestinian tunnel warfare – [1] This warfare isn't only in the Gaza Strip as several of the tunnels extended deep into Israel. This is extensively mentioned in the article, no problem there, only the title doesn't follow suit. [2] There are no other articles on Palestinian tunnel warfare. Hence adding a restricting geography, especially when its borders are crossed anyway, makes the title fail
WP:CONCISE.
gidonb (
talk) 01:46, 14 July 2016 (UTC) --Relisting.
Omni Flames (
talk) 08:16, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
@ Gidonb: I reverted your edit of the lead because it violates WP:LEAD. If, as you say, the tunnel warfare is common in West Bank and Lebanon, please add this content to the article, then it would make sense to mention it in the lead, and maybe rename the article. “ WarKosign ” 13:58, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
For reasons of NPOV (discussed above), "attack tunnel" doesn't belong in our captions. I don't think this really merits debate, but I'm refraining from reversing @ יניב הורון:'s revert myself, for now. I invite someone else to remove "attack", but will be happy to discuss the issue here.-- Carwil ( talk) 03:43, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
Some passages of this article mention the Gaza tunnels as made to attack only military targets in Israel. What happened in recent days shows a different truth. I think this article must be amended. Too many civilian killed need justice, even in Wikipedia. Thank you 5.90.203.61 ( talk) 08:19, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) SilverLocust 💬 08:11, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
Palestinian tunnel warfare in the Gaza Strip → Gaza Metro – WP:COMMONNAME: [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14]-- Sunfyre ( talk) 04:28, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
Alternative names redirect to the most appropriate article title (for example, Edson Arantes do Nascimento redirects to Pelé).-- Orgullomoore ( talk) 23:05, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
In December 2023 it was reported that the IDF was pumping seawater into the tunnels. Has pumping continued? I believe this is worth mentioning. Pete unseth ( talk) 17:51, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
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Right after citation 31, "Eado" should be changed to "Ido" as this is the common Israeli spelling for the name עידו Medstudent2022 ( talk) 13:10, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
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Please change this passage:
<According to Tehran IRGC General there are more than 500 kilometers of tunnels>
To:
<According to General Hassan Hassanzadeh, commander of Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) forces in Tehran, there are more than 500 kilometers of tunnels>
This is a better rendering of the information in the cited article, which can be accessed at < https://www.iranintl.com/en/202311028892>.
Thank you. Andrew Macklin ( talk) 13:45, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
Shouldn't "According to Tehran IRGC General, there are more than 500 kilometers of tunnels." be written as follows:
"According to a Tehran IRGC General, there are more than 500 kilometers of tunnels."
Or, alternatively:
"According to the Tehran IRGC General, there are more than 500 kilometers of tunnels."
Or, if this is more appropriate:
"According to Tehran's IRGC General, there are more than 500 kilometers of tunnels." JohnR1Roberts ( talk) 14:09, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
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On 17 October 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to Gaza Metro. The result of the discussion was Not moved. |
While I agree that this is an encyclopedic topic, it would make sense to define the scope of the article in a clear way. Gaza Strip smuggling tunnels already exists and refers to the Gaza-Egypt border. I see three alternatives:
Of course, coherence of the topic, rather than either side's propaganda interests should determine the scope.-- Carwil ( talk) 15:42, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
Let's be clear that the terms "attack tunnel," and "terror tunnel," as well as "resistance tunnel" ( [1]), are POV terms that impute a purpose to the tunnels which is disputed (thus the opposed terms). We should attribute the terms in the lead and describe the uses to which the tunnels are put in the rest of the article without these words prefacing tunnels.-- Carwil ( talk) 15:42, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
However, since "Palestinian tunnels" is too overencompassing, and there is already an article on the smuggling tunnels, we need an appropriate title. If "attack tunnels" is too POV (which is dubious), perhaps Palestinian offensive tunnels. Thoughts? Coretheapple ( talk) 16:16, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→Please pardon for not knowing how to work Wiki. I have tried to change part of te main article. The part I try to change is the portion which claims "Hamas officials admitted up to 160 children died digging the tunnels." However when I click the reference links,#9 and #4, well #9 does not exist at all and #4 references #9 in the #4's article. In fact, every claim from news sources regarding the 160 children dying refer to the report that is no longer available at #9's link. Honestly, all information on the page that uses #9 as support should be removed.
Again, apologies for not knowing how to work wiki to edit properly. Thanks for any help.←←←←←←←←←←←←←←←←←← — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.242.32.104 ( talk) 18:35, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
There is currently a claim in the lead that the topic is "also referred to as...terror tunnels". The two sources for the claim are an Israeli Ministry of Foreign press release and a Washington Post article that uses the term in quotation marks, quoting from an Israeli military press release. A more accurate and Wikipedia compliant way to represent the sources would be to say that the topic has been referred to as "terror tunnels" by the Israeli military and Israel Ministry of foreign Affairs.
But then a second question arises. Is it due/balanced to discuss Israel's preferred public diplomacy term for the topic in the first sentence of the lead? Dlv999 ( talk) 14:48, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
In this article, it says:
"The tunnel construction employed in the 2014 Israel Gaza War has its origins in an attempt to sidestep the economic asphyxiation, what Palestinians call a siege (hesar) of the Gaza Strip economy, by the Israeli economic blockade on the coastal enclave which has been in effect since 2007."
It says the warfare tunnels had it's origins due to smuggling as a result of the blockade since 2007, but Gilad Shalit was abducted in 2006 via tunnels before the blockade.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/world/2007-06-25-israeli-palestinian_N.htm
"Shalit was captured on June 25, 2006, by militants from Hamas and two allied groups who tunneled into Israel from the Gaza Strip. "
Also, the term "asphyxiation" doesn't seem like a NPOV term. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Knightmare72589 ( talk • contribs) 18:16, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
I added a bunch of citation tags today because many thoughts are not referenced. Even if the following thought is the same ref it really should be in both places because how does one know that its in the next ref? Its not very clean this way. Also the sentence "October, 2013, IDF discovery of an "attack" or "terror" tunnel at Kibbutz Ein HaShlosha." makes no sense. It seems to be only half a thought. Also why does it have its own section? - Galatz ( talk) 00:42, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
I'm editing the estimates of the cost of the tunnels pretty closely because while there's a lot of verbiage out on news and blog sites, most of it is unattributed: "are estimated to have cost," "is said to cost," or even "some have said." Even a news source that meets WP:RS reporting that kind of statement does not provide us with a verifiable, attributable source, which is necessary for inclusion on Wikipedia. However, I will do my best to include attributed comments on the cost here. As best I can tell, all of the estimates being cited here come from the Israeli military, but if there's another source, please add it. Since we can't verify that Hamas did spend whatever is estimated, we must begin such sentences with "X estimates…" not "Hamas spent…"-- Carwil ( talk) 01:31, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
The following sentence clearly fall under the category of "Exceptional claims require exceptional sources":
For now, the Times of Israel article cited is not such an exceptional source. In fact, it does not refer to "an IDF report," but to the Mako media network's army blog, which in turn cites an unnamed source. If this issue attracts the reporting of reliable sources, it can be re-added to the article, but I'm removing it for now.-- Carwil ( talk) 01:44, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
I added an article from Army Radio stating that the tunnels were for military not civilian targets. Sorry that I don't have the chops to make the reference fancier but it does work, please improve it. All the claims either way seem to be citation needed or "a spokesman" or "an israeli newspaper." This seemed one step more direct than the Times of Israel. The reference to ---later the same day it was reported that 31 tunnels were found--- seemed out of place to me , but I did not want to take it on myself to delete any text. Gentlemath ( talk) 23:06, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
@ Tritomex: I see that you have added citation needed tag for the last sentence. That is just a summary of the article, basically the section "Strategic objectives", per WP:LEAD and WP:SS. As far as I know, there have been no attacks on any civilian communities so far. The Israeli view that they are constructed for "terrorist attacks on Israel" is already present in the paragraph. I have added a couple of citations from the section down below. Kingsindian ( talk) 12:24, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
@ Wlglunight93: Regarding your edits.
Let me know if there are any questions/issues. Kingsindian ( talk) 06:47, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
I removed the following sentences, which User:Wlglunight93 has restored:
The source cited in both cases is Nicolas Pelham's article in the Journal of Palestine Studies in 2011/12 ( full text here). A second source, a 2014 Jerusalem Post article, uses Pelham as its sole basis of information, but misrepresents Pelham's claims about child labor. As I've outlined at Talk:Gaza_Strip_smuggling_tunnels#Child_labor:_Source_text, Pelham's article refers to child labor within already built tunnels, and their supervision by the Hamas governing authorities' Tunnel Affairs Commission.
(An additional point: Most smuggling tunnels were built and run privately and precisely those tunnels were under the TAC. As Pelham states, "From the outset, there was a de facto distinction between the factional tunnels, used for military and operational purposes and off-limits to government inspectors and customs authorities, and the privately owned tunnels, which were Gaza’s primary source of imports." The factional tunnels were those controlled by Hamas, Islamic Jihad, etc.)
In restoring the text, Wlglunight93 argues that the Jerusalem Post's statement that:
to justify the text in this article. Per WP:RS, peer-reviewed sources like the Pelham article are preferable. Also according to this policy, "For information about academic topics, scholarly sources and high-quality non-scholarly sources are generally better than news reports." In this case, we have the original academic source and a misdescribed report of it. I am barred by the 1RR on Israel-Palestine topics from removing this text again today, so I offer proponents of this text 24 hours to discuss the matter here. If there is no rebuttal, I will remove it again.
Finally, I did consider rewording the text, as I have done on Gaza_Strip_smuggling_tunnels, but unless and until there is a direct parallel—that is, reliable reports of children smuggling through these military tunnels, it doesn't seem to be a relevant fact to repeat on this page.-- Carwil ( talk) 01:18, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
I have reverted this . Multiple reasons:
Kingsindian describes pretty clearly the problems with this Dershowitz interpretation:
In addition, WP:RS advises against using op-ed pieces to source factual content. Now, Dershowitz's comment about sovereignty is indeed his opinion, but this sentence puts in two other claims (proximity to kindergartens, and a mass casualty attack) that are dubious at best. As we see later in the article, the tunnel wasn't so much proximate to a kindergarten to the village of Sufa, which was over a kilometer away. And the notion of mass casualty attack is a POV claim that must be attributed to the Israeli government.
@ יניב הורון: has reverted my edit removing Dershowitz, and is invited to discuss the matter here.-- Carwil ( talk) 03:37, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
I have reorganized lead according to MOS:LEAD. This is the scheme I have used:
I have removed a few duplicate lines, while keeping references intact. These are already present in the lead, either literally or paraphrased.
Kingsindian ♝ ♚ 17:27, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: No consensus to move. I can see logic on both sides of the argument, but neither side has a consensus. If the article is expanded to include West Bank tunnels, then a move would certainly become in order then. — Amakuru ( talk) 09:42, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
Palestinian tunnel warfare in the Gaza Strip →
Palestinian tunnel warfare – [1] This warfare isn't only in the Gaza Strip as several of the tunnels extended deep into Israel. This is extensively mentioned in the article, no problem there, only the title doesn't follow suit. [2] There are no other articles on Palestinian tunnel warfare. Hence adding a restricting geography, especially when its borders are crossed anyway, makes the title fail
WP:CONCISE.
gidonb (
talk) 01:46, 14 July 2016 (UTC) --Relisting.
Omni Flames (
talk) 08:16, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
@ Gidonb: I reverted your edit of the lead because it violates WP:LEAD. If, as you say, the tunnel warfare is common in West Bank and Lebanon, please add this content to the article, then it would make sense to mention it in the lead, and maybe rename the article. “ WarKosign ” 13:58, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
For reasons of NPOV (discussed above), "attack tunnel" doesn't belong in our captions. I don't think this really merits debate, but I'm refraining from reversing @ יניב הורון:'s revert myself, for now. I invite someone else to remove "attack", but will be happy to discuss the issue here.-- Carwil ( talk) 03:43, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
Some passages of this article mention the Gaza tunnels as made to attack only military targets in Israel. What happened in recent days shows a different truth. I think this article must be amended. Too many civilian killed need justice, even in Wikipedia. Thank you 5.90.203.61 ( talk) 08:19, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) SilverLocust 💬 08:11, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
Palestinian tunnel warfare in the Gaza Strip → Gaza Metro – WP:COMMONNAME: [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14]-- Sunfyre ( talk) 04:28, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
Alternative names redirect to the most appropriate article title (for example, Edson Arantes do Nascimento redirects to Pelé).-- Orgullomoore ( talk) 23:05, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
In December 2023 it was reported that the IDF was pumping seawater into the tunnels. Has pumping continued? I believe this is worth mentioning. Pete unseth ( talk) 17:51, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
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Right after citation 31, "Eado" should be changed to "Ido" as this is the common Israeli spelling for the name עידו Medstudent2022 ( talk) 13:10, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
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Please change this passage:
<According to Tehran IRGC General there are more than 500 kilometers of tunnels>
To:
<According to General Hassan Hassanzadeh, commander of Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) forces in Tehran, there are more than 500 kilometers of tunnels>
This is a better rendering of the information in the cited article, which can be accessed at < https://www.iranintl.com/en/202311028892>.
Thank you. Andrew Macklin ( talk) 13:45, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
Shouldn't "According to Tehran IRGC General, there are more than 500 kilometers of tunnels." be written as follows:
"According to a Tehran IRGC General, there are more than 500 kilometers of tunnels."
Or, alternatively:
"According to the Tehran IRGC General, there are more than 500 kilometers of tunnels."
Or, if this is more appropriate:
"According to Tehran's IRGC General, there are more than 500 kilometers of tunnels." JohnR1Roberts ( talk) 14:09, 19 April 2024 (UTC)