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What is the dentition difference that is used to distinguish apes from old world monkeys? As far as I know, it is new world monkeys that have the odd dentition (2-1-3-3), whereas old world monkeys and apes have 2-1-2-3. Iffykid 07:23, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
This portion is missing a key diagnostic feature that is mentioned by the poster above. OWMs have a characteristic bilophodont dentition, with 2 paired (4 total) cusps per tooth on both the upper and lower molars. These form visible parallel rows (lophs) of cusps mesio-distally along the dental arch. Apes in comparison have the aforementioned Y-5 patterned lower molars, both have the same dental formula of 2.1.2.3 99.227.24.168 ( talk) 05:09, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
This should be clarified with the honing complex, which should be added to the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.120.105.146 ( talk) 03:15, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
The following sentence is taken from the article's lead:
The Old World monkeys are native to Africa and Asia today, inhabiting a range of environments from tropical rain forest to savanna, scrubland, and mountainous terrain, and are also known from Europe in the fossil record.
This implies that monkeys no longer exist in Europe except in captivity. However, this is not true. (See: Gibraltar Barbary Macaques) Shouldn't this be mentioned as the only surviving group of monkeys in Europe? -- Gibmetal 77 talk 08:49, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
I found this bit weird:
"Old World monkeys include many of the most familiar species of non-human primates such as baboons and macaques."
First of all, species within Catarrhini, outside of Cercopithecidae, include all of Hominoidea (i.e. gibbons and Great Apes, which includes humans), so "non-human monkeys" (let alone non-human primates, as is written) would be highly missleading. "non-ape monkeys" would be somewhat understandable, though it ignores New World monkeys. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.225.29.142 ( talk) 10:49, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
The term "Old World Monkeys" should properly mean the Catarrhines, in opposition to the "New World Monkeys", the Platyrrhines.
The "Apes" (in the phylogenic sense), are a sub-category of "Old World Monkey", alongside Cercopithecidae.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.180.30.135 ( talk) 12:46, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
This article claims Gibbons are Old World Monkey, but the Gibbon and Ape articles classify Gibbons as lesser apes, distinct from old world monkeys. Anyone know how to resolve this? 173.75.1.12 ( talk) 03:31, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not moved. No support for this proposal. ( non-admin closure) В²C ☎ 20:25, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
Old World monkey → Cercopithecidae – Avoid confusion: Catarrhini was originally defined as Old world monkey. See [1] [2] [3] [4].. Catarrhini, "Old World monkeys", or "singes de l'Ancien continent"
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What is the dentition difference that is used to distinguish apes from old world monkeys? As far as I know, it is new world monkeys that have the odd dentition (2-1-3-3), whereas old world monkeys and apes have 2-1-2-3. Iffykid 07:23, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
This portion is missing a key diagnostic feature that is mentioned by the poster above. OWMs have a characteristic bilophodont dentition, with 2 paired (4 total) cusps per tooth on both the upper and lower molars. These form visible parallel rows (lophs) of cusps mesio-distally along the dental arch. Apes in comparison have the aforementioned Y-5 patterned lower molars, both have the same dental formula of 2.1.2.3 99.227.24.168 ( talk) 05:09, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
This should be clarified with the honing complex, which should be added to the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.120.105.146 ( talk) 03:15, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
The following sentence is taken from the article's lead:
The Old World monkeys are native to Africa and Asia today, inhabiting a range of environments from tropical rain forest to savanna, scrubland, and mountainous terrain, and are also known from Europe in the fossil record.
This implies that monkeys no longer exist in Europe except in captivity. However, this is not true. (See: Gibraltar Barbary Macaques) Shouldn't this be mentioned as the only surviving group of monkeys in Europe? -- Gibmetal 77 talk 08:49, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
I found this bit weird:
"Old World monkeys include many of the most familiar species of non-human primates such as baboons and macaques."
First of all, species within Catarrhini, outside of Cercopithecidae, include all of Hominoidea (i.e. gibbons and Great Apes, which includes humans), so "non-human monkeys" (let alone non-human primates, as is written) would be highly missleading. "non-ape monkeys" would be somewhat understandable, though it ignores New World monkeys. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.225.29.142 ( talk) 10:49, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
The term "Old World Monkeys" should properly mean the Catarrhines, in opposition to the "New World Monkeys", the Platyrrhines.
The "Apes" (in the phylogenic sense), are a sub-category of "Old World Monkey", alongside Cercopithecidae.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.180.30.135 ( talk) 12:46, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
This article claims Gibbons are Old World Monkey, but the Gibbon and Ape articles classify Gibbons as lesser apes, distinct from old world monkeys. Anyone know how to resolve this? 173.75.1.12 ( talk) 03:31, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not moved. No support for this proposal. ( non-admin closure) В²C ☎ 20:25, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
Old World monkey → Cercopithecidae – Avoid confusion: Catarrhini was originally defined as Old world monkey. See [1] [2] [3] [4].. Catarrhini, "Old World monkeys", or "singes de l'Ancien continent"
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