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Oppose – pageviews of
Devotions upon Emergent Occasions do not sufficiently overwhelm those of the other uses to justify a primarytopic takeover. The disambiguation is good.
Dicklyon (
talk) 04:56, 22 January 2023 (UTC)reply
Comment: This is in
sentence case. Doesn't it help that all the other identified topics should properly be in
title case? —
BarrelProof (
talk) 03:39, 23 January 2023 (UTC)reply
Move to
No Man Is an Island per Extraordinary Writ, since the navigation data shows that 85% of the click-throughs go to the Devotions topic (with no others exceeding 6%) and all of the non-Devotions topics are properly in
title case. Also, many of the non-click-throughs are probably the result of people landing on the DAB page and learning where the phrase originated from that, thereby having their curiosity satisfied without further ado. —
BarrelProof (
talk) 18:25, 9 February 2023 (UTC)reply
https://wikinav.toolforge.org/?language=en&title=No_man_is_an_island indicates 408 outgoing clicks go there, out of either 1.2k or 1k, it's a bit confusing. In either case, a lot readers are interested in that meaning, but not most of them, so I wouldn't say the case for primary topic is very strong. --
Joy (
talk) 17:37, 24 January 2023 (UTC)reply
Support. I read Joy's Wikinav link as saying that ~85% of the people who clicked on a link went to Devotions upon Emergent Occasions, which is more than enough to meet the primary topic threshold. (I'm not sure what to think about the people who reached the disambiguation page but didn't click on an outgoing link at all, but I'm pretty sure they shouldn't factor into our analysis.) Donne's quote also seems to be of greater long-term significance than anything else on the dab page, and there's a valid
WP:DIFFCAPS argument to be made based on the fact that it's the only thing that's written in all-lowercase. The dab page should probably be moved to
No Man Is an Island since most items use that capitalization (see
WP:DABNAME), though that's obviously not a big deal.
Extraordinary Writ (
talk) 01:43, 29 January 2023 (UTC)reply
@
Extraordinary Writ I would not advise to be pretty sure about readers who don't click through. It can easily mean that they read and obtained the knowledge they were looking for, which might actually mean the navigation page was perfectly purposeful. It can also easily mean that they got confused and gave up, too, which might indicate a serious issue with the navigation. Reading only the part of the statistics that make sense in an obvious, superficial way - is probably not the way to go. --
Joy (
talk) 13:08, 29 January 2023 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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The following is a closed discussion of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Oppose – pageviews of
Devotions upon Emergent Occasions do not sufficiently overwhelm those of the other uses to justify a primarytopic takeover. The disambiguation is good.
Dicklyon (
talk) 04:56, 22 January 2023 (UTC)reply
Comment: This is in
sentence case. Doesn't it help that all the other identified topics should properly be in
title case? —
BarrelProof (
talk) 03:39, 23 January 2023 (UTC)reply
Move to
No Man Is an Island per Extraordinary Writ, since the navigation data shows that 85% of the click-throughs go to the Devotions topic (with no others exceeding 6%) and all of the non-Devotions topics are properly in
title case. Also, many of the non-click-throughs are probably the result of people landing on the DAB page and learning where the phrase originated from that, thereby having their curiosity satisfied without further ado. —
BarrelProof (
talk) 18:25, 9 February 2023 (UTC)reply
https://wikinav.toolforge.org/?language=en&title=No_man_is_an_island indicates 408 outgoing clicks go there, out of either 1.2k or 1k, it's a bit confusing. In either case, a lot readers are interested in that meaning, but not most of them, so I wouldn't say the case for primary topic is very strong. --
Joy (
talk) 17:37, 24 January 2023 (UTC)reply
Support. I read Joy's Wikinav link as saying that ~85% of the people who clicked on a link went to Devotions upon Emergent Occasions, which is more than enough to meet the primary topic threshold. (I'm not sure what to think about the people who reached the disambiguation page but didn't click on an outgoing link at all, but I'm pretty sure they shouldn't factor into our analysis.) Donne's quote also seems to be of greater long-term significance than anything else on the dab page, and there's a valid
WP:DIFFCAPS argument to be made based on the fact that it's the only thing that's written in all-lowercase. The dab page should probably be moved to
No Man Is an Island since most items use that capitalization (see
WP:DABNAME), though that's obviously not a big deal.
Extraordinary Writ (
talk) 01:43, 29 January 2023 (UTC)reply
@
Extraordinary Writ I would not advise to be pretty sure about readers who don't click through. It can easily mean that they read and obtained the knowledge they were looking for, which might actually mean the navigation page was perfectly purposeful. It can also easily mean that they got confused and gave up, too, which might indicate a serious issue with the navigation. Reading only the part of the statistics that make sense in an obvious, superficial way - is probably not the way to go. --
Joy (
talk) 13:08, 29 January 2023 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.