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Nicole Shanahan is how old .. just wondering — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.69.24.72 ( talk) 09:31, 18 March 2024 (UTC) reply

"16 September 1985" "Nicole Ann Shanahan" (38) 47.185.255.69 ( talk) 21:33, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply

A picture would be nice. -- AstroU ( talk) 10:34, 19 March 2024 (UTC) reply

+1 I've reached out the the author of an article with a good photo of her asking if they'd be willing to release it under creative commons. Anthaearth ( talk) 15:04, 4 April 2024 (UTC) reply

In the New York Times article "Meet the Woman Who Helped Pay for That R.F.K. Super Bowl Ad" (citation #1), Shanahan is described as 38 years old. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 135.0.55.154 ( talk) 19:58, 19 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Since she is a Vice Presidential candidate now, she needs a portrait in her Infobox. SmashingThreePlates ( talk) 02:07, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply

I agree, and have added the photo request template to the top section of this page. A. Randomdude0000 ( talk) 02:13, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply

: Photo has been provided. A. Randomdude0000 ( talk) 11:57, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Nicely done. Thanks! -- AstruU ( talk) 16:58, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply

:::Unfortunately, the image appears to be a WP:COPYVIO, and can't be used: /info/en/?search=File:Nicole_Shanahan.jpg. A. Randomdude0000 ( talk) 03:11, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply

It appears that a licensed photo has now been added. A. Randomdude0000 ( talk) 12:21, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply

That one looks to be removed as well. David O. Johnson ( talk) 15:12, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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Change Shanahan attended Saint Mary's College of California to Shanahan attended Saint Mary's College High School in Berkeley on an athletic scholarship. Forwardmotions ( talk) 13:56, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply

@ Forwardmotions do you have a source for this? CanonNi ( talk) 14:03, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Yes. It's contained in this campaign bio: https://www.kennedy24.com/about-shanahan Forwardmotions ( talk) 15:01, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply

 Done I'm going to accept this request, not solely based on the campaign bio (although I'm going to add it as a source per WP:BLPSELFPUB), but also from studying the currently cited The Independent article. The article says that she attended "St Mary’s College of California – at the same time that Black Panther director Ryan Coogler was also enrolled". However, Ryan Coogler did not actually attend Saint Mary's College of California, but instead attended Saint Mary's College High School, as supported by the sources in Coogler's article (e.g. this BuzzFeed article). Combining these two pieces of information, I believe that Shanahan went to the high school and not the private college. Liu1126 ( talk) 18:59, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Request to change: "Shanahan has said that she is "not an anti-vaxxer" but has expressed support for Kennedy's anti-vaccine advocacy and questions the scientific consensus on their safety and efficacy." " [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/26/us/politics/nicole-shanahan-rfk-jr-vp-facts.html This does not properly reflect the article that was written about Nicole that was cited as the source above. Here go as follows. She actually has expressed "She also praised Mr. Kennedy’s work as an environmental lawyer, though he has become better known for his anti-vaccine activism and his embrace of political conspiracy theories."

Also, what she had said was not directly questioning the science, but she did say that there needs to be a space for conversation. “I do wonder about vaccine injuries,” Ms. Shanahan said last month, while saying she was “not an anti-vaxxer.” “I think there needs to be a space to have these conversations.”

I think there is too much focus from 2 sources about 'anti-vax' that have a lot of other information that would be related more to the campaign. It seems the wording has one focus only, citing 2 sources, and then improperly taking from these 2. I would rather eliminate this entirely from the paragraph, reword it, or take some other things from the article that seem more related to the campaign and passions. This is just one of the few things I think could use improving, but I am guessing the next few should be in a different topic? I am new to this. I hope I did this request correctly. 71.9.59.11 ( talk) 04:58, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Hi IP, there's more than just two sources that have written about her views on vaccines so I suggest reading all the sources cited in the paragraph. Also keep in mind, Wikipedia summarizes what sources say so if the majority of sources wrote about her views in relation to her being Kennedy's VP pick, it will be reflected in the article which is the case here. S0091 ( talk) 16:31, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Hi SOO91, the question I raise is just the very first part of the paragraph that I quoted above.

"Shanahan has said that she is "not an anti-vaxxer" but has expressed support for Kennedy's anti-vaccine advocacy and questions the scientific consensus on their safety and efficacy."

I was thinking, as I mentioned above, to take the paragraph little by little. Just addressing each sentence with sources at a time.

There were 2 sources directly after what I quoted. I read both sources 4 times. One source did not seem to reflect the quoted sentence at all, so I did not link that one. I linked the source that doesn't seem to be properly reflected in the sentence. I quoted a few things directly from the source that show the sentence does not properly summarize the article. I also mentioned there is a lot of information in the articles, which could be used.

I think it could use rewording, removal, or take other things from the article that is more related to the campaign. The subject is VP running mate. @ S0091 Daphloop ( talk) 23:02, 26 April 2024 (UTC) reply