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I recently saw Bill Richardson being interviewed on CNN and couldn't help noticing a statue that had been superimposed to his left as background. It was a statue of either an Egyptian or Amero-Indian woman holding two objects. One appeared to be either a sceptre or mushroom and in the other a staff or longbow. At first I thought I should check out the NM seal...but no.
Does anyone out there know what the relationship of this statue is to N.Mexico? mangonorth —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.70.76.26 ( talk) 00:54, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
As reported on CNN on May 5, 2008, some of the unknown quantity of people to whom New Mexico has given driver's licenses over the past five years are illegal immigrants from nations on terrorist watch lists. This is just an example of the obvious dangers of New Mexico's extremely misguided policy of handing out driver's licenses to illegal aliens from, well, nobody really knows where. The risks to public safety, and the potential for a national security problem, are all too obvious. New Mexico's tourist personnel sure don't want people to know that New Mexico is now a magnet for people in the U.S. illegally who know that New Mexico is a great place to get a driver's license and begin a chain of documentation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.44.148.23 ( talk) 23:55, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
The site refers one to the Delaware Basin - which to my knowledge is in the Delaware/New Jersey/Pennsylvania area, not New Mexico. I haven't found the original data, so I couldn't change it. Elc3ny 02:07, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
It's common for New Mexico to have stippers with having a relation to Mexico. Think this warrants a mention? 67.54.145.95 03:07, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
NO. It's nonsense. Viva-Verdi 15:36, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
The page is becoming slightly messy. Reviewing the standards and revising the page may help. Abqwildcat 04:35, 13 May 2004 (UTC) so i am tell all of ya to do your work so STOP reading this sentence cause it don't have anything to deal with NEW MEXICO!!!!
-- ABQCat 23:42, 17 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Hi! I did some searching but was unable to find a governmental reference to English and Spanish being the official languages of New Mexico. Does anyone have such a reference? Thanks. :) kmccoy (talk) 01:05, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC) live in New Mexico and can't confirm it either - I'll check around in the printed materials I have. A cursory check online finds only other wikipedia mirrors citing Spanish as an "official language" of New Mexico (About.com also, but rather non-authoratatively). While Spanish is a protected language in NM and discrimination on the basis of language spoken is illegal, that's not the same as "official language." For a short(ish) history on Spanish in New Mexico, see ourwold.compuserve.com. I think the state constitution states that NM is a bilingual state, but I don't have the citation available. It's possible, but I've found no decent citation one way or another. -- ABQCat 05:17, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Official language. I searched through the New Mexico Constitution, and I did a quick (but not through) search through the New Mexico statutes. I could find no reference to any official language, neither Spanish or English. I think the myth that New Mexico has two official languages started from the fact that when New Mexico became a state, Spanish was given protection for a period of time (since expired). I can find no evidence that any language is either official or "protected" in New Mexico at present. I'll leave it to someone else to decide if I am correct and edit the page 70.176.142.8 21:21, 20 October 2005 (UTC) Jack Quinn
I would figure kind of the best way to say it would be that New Mexico has two de facto standard languages. Usually, it's difficult in some places of New Mexico to find a job where you would need to interact with a lot of customers unless you speak Spanish. While the state over all has a large number of Spanish speakers, many of them are located in the smaller cities. (Not fact, just what I've kind of noticed.) Also, the state continues to have children enter school where they only speak Spanish, usually in an approach called "Bilingual Education", which receives a ton of criticism everytime the English-only people hear about it. Usually, what it means is teaching the child as much English as possible, and teaching other stuff in Spanish only so that the student doesn't fall behind his/her classmates. Anyways, just trying to weigh in that while New Mexico may not have two de jure official languages, it does have two de facto. -- Puellanivis 07:18, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
My New Mexico birth certificate is in both English and Spanish. bszoka ( talk) 15:59, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
216.138.232.51 just added this link:
- http://www.eachtown.com/state_info.php/stateid/32 New Mexico State Information
I am not seeing much value-added with this one, this person just went through and added a bunch of links to each state, two counties, and one town. Also if you follow the link (s) it has a link that is not correct for New Mexico, and may not be correct for other states as well. WikiDon 15:13, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
It looks like a new article needs to be started: History of New Mexico. Then a summary of history needs to be in this article. A timeline would also be nice. The article is now at 39 k, just slightly over the 36 k limit, so something will need to be done soon. Comments? WikiDon 19:45, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
The snippet U.S. Army (Fort Bliss) I think should also mention WSMR.
-- 70.59.96.25 02:23, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
When I was growing up in Grants we sang what I thought was the New Mexico state song. It went, in part, "...from the Carlsbad Caverns to Old Santa Fe, from the White Sands to the Rio Grande, I am proud to be New Mexican, New Mexico: the Enchanted Land!" I loved singing this song. I was wondering why it isn't listed? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.53.192.153 ( talk • contribs) .
Εi am doing a report on new mexico can you help me
i can help
-kitcat531 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.26.191.202 ( talk) 03:13, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
I have concerns about the sentence, "At least one-third of New Mexicans are also fluent in a unique dialect of Spanish. New Mexican Spanish is rife with vocabulary often unknown to other Spanish speakers."
I think the sentence should be changed to, "There are New Mexicans who speak a unique dialect of Spanish..." with a link to "New Mexico Spanish" (where you can see my recommendations for changes to that article). —This unsigned comment was added by Ron habla hispana ( talk • contribs) 3:52, 31 March 2006.
Any comments or discussion on the post above? I think it needs some discusson before changes are made.
Ron habla hispana 12:41, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
Several months have passed with no objections, I'm going to go ahead and make the change.
Ron habla hispana 18:59, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Is this a mistake or is there a citation or explanation?-- Silverback 11:53, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
---I am a political science student doing a research assignment on New Mexico, and I found some figures which contradict some information presented in this article. There is mention that NM has the second largest of native americans/alaskan natives in the country, second to OK. If you go here http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/ and compare NM and OK you'll see that NM actually has a higher percentage. i may be looking at this wrong, and i don't have time to really elaborate. also according to the census site, alaska has the highest overal NA/AN pop. maybe these need to be separated? -m. williams bloodytofu@gmail.com
The Article is getting pretty long. I suggest splinning off the history sections into a daughter article. I thought I'd ask here for comments before doing it myself. Eluchil404 00:16, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks I have hacked together a basic History of New Mexico article from what was here and Pueblo Revolt which was barely covered in the main section. It could use a look. I also shortened the History section here but welcome further trimming or clarification. Eluchil404 16:23, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
I checked the Census Data, the percentage of Spaniards (24%) of total population is probably wrong. See : http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/SAFFIteratedFacts?_event=&geo_id=04000US35&_geoContext=01000US%7C04000US35&_street=&_county=&_cityTown=&_state=04000US35&_zip=&_lang=en&_sse=on&ActiveGeoDiv=&_useEV=&pctxt=fph&pgsl=040&_submenuId=factsheet_2&ds_name=DEC_2000_SAFF&_ci_nbr=423&qr_name=DEC_2000_SAFF_R1040®=DEC_2000_SAFF_R1040%3A423&_keyword=&_industry= However, if Spaniards are not 24%, about 400,000 Hispanics are just missing. See: http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/SAFFIteratedFacts?_event=&geo_id=04000US35&_geoContext=01000US%7C04000US35&_street=&_county=&_cityTown=&_state=04000US35&_zip=&_lang=en&_sse=on&ActiveGeoDiv=&_useEV=&pctxt=fph&pgsl=040&_submenuId=factsheet_2&ds_name=DEC_2000_SAFF&_ci_nbr=424&qr_name=DEC_2000_SAFF_R1040®=DEC_2000_SAFF_R1040%3A424&_keyword=&_industry= Somebody please try to resolve that.
According to this document, http://www.census.gov/prod/2004pubs/c2kbr-35.pdf, the top 5 ancestry groups for New Mexico are not as listed. They are instead Mexican (16.3%), American Indian (10.3%), German (9.8%), Hispanic (9.4%) and Spanish (9.3%)
As of the 16:42, 4 August 2006 edit by IP:195.117.242.66:
"New Mexico has simultaneously the highest percentage of Hispanic Americans of any state, some recent immigrants and others descendants of Spanish colonists, and the highest percentage of Native Americans, mostly Navajo and Pueblo peoples, of any continental United State"
This information sounds fine, but I think I'd need to see a citation for this as neither individual piece of information was previously "highest" or quantitative. Previous versions of this page simply listed "a large" or "significant" proportion. If either the contributer who made the edit can provide a citation or another contributer can help out, that would be great. I'm adding a citation needed template in the meantime.
-- ABQCat 22:21, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
http://www.censusscope.org/us/s35/chart_race.html
That site should have what you're looking for.
-- hyyttaa 05:11, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
A new law recently passed in New Mexico makes it a felony to assist illegal aliens, and you MUST prove "you're" a U.S. citizen to even recieve basic services. Martial Law 04:53, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
New Mexico has a military unit similar to the Texas State Guard. Website is www.newmexicosdf.org . See Also Militia: State Militia and/or State Guard. Martial Law 23:44, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
My grandmother tells me that when she was younger one of the state nicknames was "The Spanish State". She even showed me some visitor brochures from the 1930s that say that, so I added that nickname to the list. I'm not sure how long that nickname was used, but I'm guessing it popped up shortly after statehood or in the 1920s when there was the big Hispano literary revival.
Also, I'm not sure as to the official spelling, but it seems to make more sense (grammatically) that the official state nickname in Spanish would be "Tierra del Encanto" rather than "Tierra de Encanto".
Miguel Jose Ernst y Sandoval Moya 06:33, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
That's not totally correct. In Spanish from Spain makes more sense "Tierra de Encanto" 68.43.193.30 03:04, 20 January 2007 (UTC)Jose San Juan
New Mexico is listed at Ethnic autonomous regions - according to the talk page an 'ethnic autonomous region' specifically for the "Mexicans". That seems to me to be nonsense. Paul111 12:27, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
someone has put indecent images all over this page please fix immediatley. I would, but I am new and don't know how to change pictures. Bcody 00:52, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
The Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. states format has been updated to include a new Sports section title, which covers collegiate sports, amateur sports, and non-team sports (such as hunting and fishing). Please feel free to add this new heading, and supply information about sports in New Mexico. Please see South_carolina#Sports_in_South_Carolina as an example. NorCalHistory 13:27, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
There is now a proposed WikiProject to deal with the state of New Mexico at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#New Mexico. Any parties interested in taking part in such a project should indicate as much there, so that we can know if there is sufficient interest to create it. Thank you. Badbilltucker 16:58, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
Can anyone confirm that this is all real? It certainly doesn't read that way. Who/what is "Coaches Sports Bar and Grill"??
Viva-Verdi 17:31, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
The pronunciation is given as nju: which is standard in British English but I think that nu: which is an American variant is more common in the state. Or am I just being misled by my own ideolect? I know that I say nu: but I tend to hear the variants as homophones unless I am paying specific attention. Eluchil404 05:51, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
The Demographics section says: "Descendants of white American settlers, mostly of Irish and English descent, from other parts of United States..." But then a table follows which puts German ancestry as greater than both Irish and English. The 'mostly of Irish and English descent' apostrophe should probably be changed or removed unless someone can explain this apparent contradiction. AnthroGael ( talk) 10:46, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
new mexico is dry land and a beautiful state. if you are doing a report on it you made a good choce. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.243.136.175 ( talk) 19:43, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
The current version of the religion section doesn't add up to 100%. Also, it shows Judaism and Protestantism under the Roman Catholic heading. This edit seems to show the religious percentages correctly (and they add up to 100%), based on a RS added. Thoughts? AgnosticPreachersKid ( talk) 01:07, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
The religious affiliation section of 4.3 was hopelessly vandalized and/or garbled, so I've given it a fresh start by replacing the whole thing with new data from the Pew U.S. Religious Landscape Survey from February 2008. The previous version seems to suffer from attempting to mix together data from several sources, as well as not being sourced very well. There is probably some vandalism of the numbers as well—a lot of changes have been made to the data without any change to the citation.
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On this article (and several others in New Mexico, e.g., Las Cruces, New Mexico) several editors have been supplying population figures described as being for 2008. However they do not give any sources for the data. The US Census Population Estimate Program is only up to 2006, so presumably these 2008 figures are not from the Census Bureau. Please remember to supply sources for your data ( WP:V) or your changes may be reverted. The WikiProject Cities guidelines at WP:USCITY specify that only US Census data be used. We might accept other sources of data here, but the source needs to be given. Thanks. -- Uncia ( talk) 03:17, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
I forgot to mention that there are also several editors supplying population figures without dates and without sources; the figures are higher than the 2006 Census Bureau estimates, and so are probably 2007 or 2008 figures. We need both dates and sources for these. -- Uncia ( talk) 03:36, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
The most recent originator of the 2008 population figures, Martinez07, has been blocked indefinitely as a sock puppet. -- Uncia ( talk) 01:15, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
User:Cchow2 has been going through all the 50 US States (and I think some foreign ones too) putting the 2007 Census Estimate figures in the infobox (see Special:Contributions/Cchow2). The field is called 2000Pop, which I interpret to mean 2000 Population and not any other year. User:Cchow2 apparently also believes this, but he thinks the 2000 figures are "outdated" and since there is no 2007Pop field he is going to use the 2000Pop field for 2007 data. My view is that since we discuss the 2007 figures under Demographics, it's not urgent to put them in the infobox too, and we should stick to using the 2000 figures in the infobox.
Realize that although the 2007 figures from the Population Estimate Program are "newer" than the 2000 figures, they are not "more accurate". The PEP figures are gotten by a crude estimate and extrapolation while the 2000 Census figures are actual counts: they did their best to count every single person. In other words, the 2000 and the 2007 figures are not the same kind of thing, and you cannot just "update" the 2000 figures by sticking in the 2007 estimates.
I am inviting User:Cchow2 to comment here on his views, and I invite anyone else to comment also to see if we can develop a consensus. Thanks. -- Uncia ( talk) 01:20, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
I have only edited 41 states so far (the 40 most populous states + Alaska). I strongly believe that the 2007 estimates are more accurate than the 2000 actual figures, because we are currently in the year of 2008. Nonetheless, those 2007 estimates figures were officially released by the U.S. Census. If you want the most accurate data as of August 2008, the 2007 estimates are more reliable than the 2000 actual figures. Besides, population figures are never 100% accurate.
http://www.census.gov/popest/states/NST-ann-est.html
Info boxes of Canada's provinces also have 2008 est. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_provinces_and_territories_by_population -- cchow2 ( talk) 01:20, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. And I have updated the density. -- cchow2 ( talk) 01:20, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
An IP editor added the following unsourced statement under Taxes:
Residents serving in the Armed forces are exempt from the state's personal income tax while on active duty.
I believe this is not true, and have been unable to locate a source for this statement. References or corrections would be appreciated. Thanks. -- Uncia ( talk) 19:35, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
This article is currently 72 kB long, which is probably too long (see WP:SIZE). Several sections have already been split into separate articles, and I propose the following additional splits:
These changes would cut the page down to about 50 kB and give it a cleaner look. Comments? -- Uncia ( talk) 16:08, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
OK! I moved the Education and State Symbols lists to other pages. As suggest by Una Smith I added items to Wikitravel for everything in the Tourist Attractions list (most of the items were already there) and deleted that list. And I agree with AlexiusHoratius's suggestion that we retain 5 or 6 paragraphs of information on History and Economy. The page now weighs in at 66 kB (still too big), and I propose to proceed with the two remaining splits, namely:
More comments? -- Uncia ( talk) 05:08, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
OK! I have done the History split. Actually everything in the present article was already in History of New Mexico except for about three sentences, so I copied those over and then condensed and rewrote what was here. History of New Mexico has almost no sources (and is flagged for this), but I gave sources for all statements in the present article's History section. The new History section is eight paragraphs, and I compared it against and modelled it after the History sections in the FAs Minnesota and Oklahoma, as suggested by AlexiusHoratius.
The page is now 64 kB, and the only thing left from my original proposal is to split Economy. In a note just above this, Synchronism objected to splitting Economy but gave no reasons. I still think we should split it now, based on its size and based on precedents in other state articles. I would condense it down to five or six paragraphs as suggested by AlexiusHoratius. What's the consensus: split or keep together? Thanks. -- Uncia ( talk) 13:08, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
All done! I've split the Economy section off into Economy of New Mexico. That article has erratic references (some sections have none, some have many) so I've put a generic refimprove at the top. I also wrote a condensed version (modelled somewhat on Minnesota) for this article. The article is now 56 kB, not too big. As Synchronism notes, many further improvements are possible, but that's probably enough splitting for now, so I've removed the split tag from the top of the page. Thanks to everyone for their suggestions on the splits. -- Uncia ( talk) 00:11, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
The article has improved a lot over the past few weeks, and since we now have a number of editors interested in it, shall we try to bring it up to Good Article status? Some areas need expansion (notably Sports), there are still some lists that need to be replaced with narrative, and it needs better sourcing. But I believe we are not that far away from GA status. Once we are happy with the article, it would still have to go through a review by impartial reviewers to reach this status. There are currently no New Mexico-related articles at GA or FA class, and what better place to start that with New Mexico itself? Comments? Interest? Thanks. -- Uncia ( talk) 13:14, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
The demographic information in this article should be clarified. Twice in this article, it states that New Mexico has the highest percentage of Hispanics in its population of any state, but it never states what that percentage is. -- Metropolitan90 (talk) 01:56, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
I propose that we delete the table of "Demographics of New Mexico" and "largest ancestry groups", and clarify the narrative above them and give references. This is the approach used in the two FA state articles Oklahoma and Minnesota. As AlexiusHoratius and Metropolitan90 point out above, they are not very clear, and as I pointed out they may not be accurate. I think these tables are more detailed than we need in an encyclopedia article. If there is interest, we could point to the Census Bureau reports that contain this detailed data, since they are all online.
Any objections to deletion? Thanks. -- Uncia ( talk) 13:31, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
Currently there is a short top-level section New Mexico#Notable New Mexicans that refers to List of people from New Mexico, and I propose to remove this section. Rationale:
Comments? Thanks. -- Uncia ( talk) 21:38, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
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Shouldn't the list of symbols include the official State Question: "Red or green?" It refers to the red or green chilli sauce which covers so many regional dishes. I'd just add it, but I wanted to ask here in case there's a reason it doesn't belong. JDZeff ( talk) 03:05, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
@ JDZeff: Yes, "Red or green?" is the NM Official State Question, and I think you're right, this should be included. But you need to be sure you spell it right—New Mexicans universally spell these red chile and green chile, not "chilli", though they pronounce "chile" the way you pronounce "chilli". And they don't use the word "sauce". Usually red chile is a sauce (but not always), but they don't use the word sauce. And green chile is (almost) never a sauce, it is usually chopped up pieces of green chiles themselves. Un sch ool 00:07, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
The National Forests and National Parks are listed in the "Protected Areas of New Mexico" section at the bottom of the article. Maybe we should delete this list in the Geography section and just replace it with something like "The U.S. government protects millions of acres of New Mexico as national forests, as well as areas managed by the National Parks Service. See Protected Areas of New Mexico" - Whatsit369 ( talk) 10:35, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
I like first 6 geography pictures but they take up a lot of room. Maybe they should be combined into a collage. - Whatsit369 ( talk) 10:35, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
It would be good if there was more information about NM's involvement in atomic bombs, the Waste Isolation Pilot Plant, and it currently being considered for the nation's first interim storage facility for waste from nuclear power plants (via Holtec International). I'm not sure where in the article to put them, though. The uranium mines could be mentioned, too. (Information on where PNM gets its electricity from could be included somewhere, too.) - Whatsit369 ( talk) 22:09, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
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I don’t see why this is stated at the top of the page. We don’t recommend York for New York City/ New York (state), or Hampshire for New Hampshire, or Jersey for New Jersey. Totally odd and out of place, especially since the naming of New Mexico predates the naming of the country of Mexico, but both were named after the trade-routes to the Aztec Empire and its Capital. Yet I don’t think anyone’s clamoring to add suggestions for the Mexica or Pueblos on either article, because that would be just as absurd. 2601:8C2:8080:1BC0:5929:BD1A:2E0A:A4AD ( talk) 04:28, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
Hi, I was reading this article about the presence of women of color in the political system of the State and I think that maybe something about that could be added in this section. It's not my usual field and this is a page with many visits, so I just leave it as a comment here. Have a nice wiki.-- Alexmar983 ( talk) 00:41, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
Spanish is spoken by over a quarter of the population of New Mexico, at 28.45%. And Navajo is spoken by 65,493 people, at 3.50%, these languages are of extreme importance in the state. Many legal documents are created in English, and in Spanish and Navajo too. 2601:8C2:8080:1BC0:A929:6074:6A62:36B3 ( talk) 16:51, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
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The article says
Due to its large area and economic climate, New Mexico has a large U.S. military presence marked notably with the White Sands Missile Range.
In other words, NM has lots of military because of its large area and its economic climate. The first one makes sense (you can't have lots of military bases in a small place), but I don't understand the second. When the federal government wants a new military base, does it pay attention to the local economy? I would guess that they would care about strategic location (witness lots of Cold War military installations in Alaska) and maybe local real estate prices (so it's cheaper to buy a massive area of land), but I don't understand how the state's economy would be responsible for the large military presence. I couldn't find anything in the rest of the article talking about the military presence being partly due to the economic climate. If any climate is relevant, it's probably the state's arid literal climate, which means that much of the state isn't covered with farms and probably made it a lot less expensive for the federal government to buy massive areas of land. Could this be changed to refer to the effect the military has on the existing economic climate? 2601:5C6:8081:35C0:4807:1190:E7F7:8F2F ( talk) 23:00, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
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I recently saw Bill Richardson being interviewed on CNN and couldn't help noticing a statue that had been superimposed to his left as background. It was a statue of either an Egyptian or Amero-Indian woman holding two objects. One appeared to be either a sceptre or mushroom and in the other a staff or longbow. At first I thought I should check out the NM seal...but no.
Does anyone out there know what the relationship of this statue is to N.Mexico? mangonorth —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.70.76.26 ( talk) 00:54, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
As reported on CNN on May 5, 2008, some of the unknown quantity of people to whom New Mexico has given driver's licenses over the past five years are illegal immigrants from nations on terrorist watch lists. This is just an example of the obvious dangers of New Mexico's extremely misguided policy of handing out driver's licenses to illegal aliens from, well, nobody really knows where. The risks to public safety, and the potential for a national security problem, are all too obvious. New Mexico's tourist personnel sure don't want people to know that New Mexico is now a magnet for people in the U.S. illegally who know that New Mexico is a great place to get a driver's license and begin a chain of documentation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.44.148.23 ( talk) 23:55, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
The site refers one to the Delaware Basin - which to my knowledge is in the Delaware/New Jersey/Pennsylvania area, not New Mexico. I haven't found the original data, so I couldn't change it. Elc3ny 02:07, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
It's common for New Mexico to have stippers with having a relation to Mexico. Think this warrants a mention? 67.54.145.95 03:07, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
NO. It's nonsense. Viva-Verdi 15:36, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
The page is becoming slightly messy. Reviewing the standards and revising the page may help. Abqwildcat 04:35, 13 May 2004 (UTC) so i am tell all of ya to do your work so STOP reading this sentence cause it don't have anything to deal with NEW MEXICO!!!!
-- ABQCat 23:42, 17 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Hi! I did some searching but was unable to find a governmental reference to English and Spanish being the official languages of New Mexico. Does anyone have such a reference? Thanks. :) kmccoy (talk) 01:05, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC) live in New Mexico and can't confirm it either - I'll check around in the printed materials I have. A cursory check online finds only other wikipedia mirrors citing Spanish as an "official language" of New Mexico (About.com also, but rather non-authoratatively). While Spanish is a protected language in NM and discrimination on the basis of language spoken is illegal, that's not the same as "official language." For a short(ish) history on Spanish in New Mexico, see ourwold.compuserve.com. I think the state constitution states that NM is a bilingual state, but I don't have the citation available. It's possible, but I've found no decent citation one way or another. -- ABQCat 05:17, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Official language. I searched through the New Mexico Constitution, and I did a quick (but not through) search through the New Mexico statutes. I could find no reference to any official language, neither Spanish or English. I think the myth that New Mexico has two official languages started from the fact that when New Mexico became a state, Spanish was given protection for a period of time (since expired). I can find no evidence that any language is either official or "protected" in New Mexico at present. I'll leave it to someone else to decide if I am correct and edit the page 70.176.142.8 21:21, 20 October 2005 (UTC) Jack Quinn
I would figure kind of the best way to say it would be that New Mexico has two de facto standard languages. Usually, it's difficult in some places of New Mexico to find a job where you would need to interact with a lot of customers unless you speak Spanish. While the state over all has a large number of Spanish speakers, many of them are located in the smaller cities. (Not fact, just what I've kind of noticed.) Also, the state continues to have children enter school where they only speak Spanish, usually in an approach called "Bilingual Education", which receives a ton of criticism everytime the English-only people hear about it. Usually, what it means is teaching the child as much English as possible, and teaching other stuff in Spanish only so that the student doesn't fall behind his/her classmates. Anyways, just trying to weigh in that while New Mexico may not have two de jure official languages, it does have two de facto. -- Puellanivis 07:18, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
My New Mexico birth certificate is in both English and Spanish. bszoka ( talk) 15:59, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
216.138.232.51 just added this link:
- http://www.eachtown.com/state_info.php/stateid/32 New Mexico State Information
I am not seeing much value-added with this one, this person just went through and added a bunch of links to each state, two counties, and one town. Also if you follow the link (s) it has a link that is not correct for New Mexico, and may not be correct for other states as well. WikiDon 15:13, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
It looks like a new article needs to be started: History of New Mexico. Then a summary of history needs to be in this article. A timeline would also be nice. The article is now at 39 k, just slightly over the 36 k limit, so something will need to be done soon. Comments? WikiDon 19:45, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
The snippet U.S. Army (Fort Bliss) I think should also mention WSMR.
-- 70.59.96.25 02:23, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
When I was growing up in Grants we sang what I thought was the New Mexico state song. It went, in part, "...from the Carlsbad Caverns to Old Santa Fe, from the White Sands to the Rio Grande, I am proud to be New Mexican, New Mexico: the Enchanted Land!" I loved singing this song. I was wondering why it isn't listed? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.53.192.153 ( talk • contribs) .
Εi am doing a report on new mexico can you help me
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-kitcat531 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.26.191.202 ( talk) 03:13, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
I have concerns about the sentence, "At least one-third of New Mexicans are also fluent in a unique dialect of Spanish. New Mexican Spanish is rife with vocabulary often unknown to other Spanish speakers."
I think the sentence should be changed to, "There are New Mexicans who speak a unique dialect of Spanish..." with a link to "New Mexico Spanish" (where you can see my recommendations for changes to that article). —This unsigned comment was added by Ron habla hispana ( talk • contribs) 3:52, 31 March 2006.
Any comments or discussion on the post above? I think it needs some discusson before changes are made.
Ron habla hispana 12:41, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
Several months have passed with no objections, I'm going to go ahead and make the change.
Ron habla hispana 18:59, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Is this a mistake or is there a citation or explanation?-- Silverback 11:53, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
---I am a political science student doing a research assignment on New Mexico, and I found some figures which contradict some information presented in this article. There is mention that NM has the second largest of native americans/alaskan natives in the country, second to OK. If you go here http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/ and compare NM and OK you'll see that NM actually has a higher percentage. i may be looking at this wrong, and i don't have time to really elaborate. also according to the census site, alaska has the highest overal NA/AN pop. maybe these need to be separated? -m. williams bloodytofu@gmail.com
The Article is getting pretty long. I suggest splinning off the history sections into a daughter article. I thought I'd ask here for comments before doing it myself. Eluchil404 00:16, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks I have hacked together a basic History of New Mexico article from what was here and Pueblo Revolt which was barely covered in the main section. It could use a look. I also shortened the History section here but welcome further trimming or clarification. Eluchil404 16:23, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
I checked the Census Data, the percentage of Spaniards (24%) of total population is probably wrong. See : http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/SAFFIteratedFacts?_event=&geo_id=04000US35&_geoContext=01000US%7C04000US35&_street=&_county=&_cityTown=&_state=04000US35&_zip=&_lang=en&_sse=on&ActiveGeoDiv=&_useEV=&pctxt=fph&pgsl=040&_submenuId=factsheet_2&ds_name=DEC_2000_SAFF&_ci_nbr=423&qr_name=DEC_2000_SAFF_R1040®=DEC_2000_SAFF_R1040%3A423&_keyword=&_industry= However, if Spaniards are not 24%, about 400,000 Hispanics are just missing. See: http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/SAFFIteratedFacts?_event=&geo_id=04000US35&_geoContext=01000US%7C04000US35&_street=&_county=&_cityTown=&_state=04000US35&_zip=&_lang=en&_sse=on&ActiveGeoDiv=&_useEV=&pctxt=fph&pgsl=040&_submenuId=factsheet_2&ds_name=DEC_2000_SAFF&_ci_nbr=424&qr_name=DEC_2000_SAFF_R1040®=DEC_2000_SAFF_R1040%3A424&_keyword=&_industry= Somebody please try to resolve that.
According to this document, http://www.census.gov/prod/2004pubs/c2kbr-35.pdf, the top 5 ancestry groups for New Mexico are not as listed. They are instead Mexican (16.3%), American Indian (10.3%), German (9.8%), Hispanic (9.4%) and Spanish (9.3%)
As of the 16:42, 4 August 2006 edit by IP:195.117.242.66:
"New Mexico has simultaneously the highest percentage of Hispanic Americans of any state, some recent immigrants and others descendants of Spanish colonists, and the highest percentage of Native Americans, mostly Navajo and Pueblo peoples, of any continental United State"
This information sounds fine, but I think I'd need to see a citation for this as neither individual piece of information was previously "highest" or quantitative. Previous versions of this page simply listed "a large" or "significant" proportion. If either the contributer who made the edit can provide a citation or another contributer can help out, that would be great. I'm adding a citation needed template in the meantime.
-- ABQCat 22:21, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
http://www.censusscope.org/us/s35/chart_race.html
That site should have what you're looking for.
-- hyyttaa 05:11, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
A new law recently passed in New Mexico makes it a felony to assist illegal aliens, and you MUST prove "you're" a U.S. citizen to even recieve basic services. Martial Law 04:53, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
New Mexico has a military unit similar to the Texas State Guard. Website is www.newmexicosdf.org . See Also Militia: State Militia and/or State Guard. Martial Law 23:44, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
My grandmother tells me that when she was younger one of the state nicknames was "The Spanish State". She even showed me some visitor brochures from the 1930s that say that, so I added that nickname to the list. I'm not sure how long that nickname was used, but I'm guessing it popped up shortly after statehood or in the 1920s when there was the big Hispano literary revival.
Also, I'm not sure as to the official spelling, but it seems to make more sense (grammatically) that the official state nickname in Spanish would be "Tierra del Encanto" rather than "Tierra de Encanto".
Miguel Jose Ernst y Sandoval Moya 06:33, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
That's not totally correct. In Spanish from Spain makes more sense "Tierra de Encanto" 68.43.193.30 03:04, 20 January 2007 (UTC)Jose San Juan
New Mexico is listed at Ethnic autonomous regions - according to the talk page an 'ethnic autonomous region' specifically for the "Mexicans". That seems to me to be nonsense. Paul111 12:27, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
someone has put indecent images all over this page please fix immediatley. I would, but I am new and don't know how to change pictures. Bcody 00:52, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
The Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. states format has been updated to include a new Sports section title, which covers collegiate sports, amateur sports, and non-team sports (such as hunting and fishing). Please feel free to add this new heading, and supply information about sports in New Mexico. Please see South_carolina#Sports_in_South_Carolina as an example. NorCalHistory 13:27, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
There is now a proposed WikiProject to deal with the state of New Mexico at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#New Mexico. Any parties interested in taking part in such a project should indicate as much there, so that we can know if there is sufficient interest to create it. Thank you. Badbilltucker 16:58, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
Can anyone confirm that this is all real? It certainly doesn't read that way. Who/what is "Coaches Sports Bar and Grill"??
Viva-Verdi 17:31, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
The pronunciation is given as nju: which is standard in British English but I think that nu: which is an American variant is more common in the state. Or am I just being misled by my own ideolect? I know that I say nu: but I tend to hear the variants as homophones unless I am paying specific attention. Eluchil404 05:51, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
The Demographics section says: "Descendants of white American settlers, mostly of Irish and English descent, from other parts of United States..." But then a table follows which puts German ancestry as greater than both Irish and English. The 'mostly of Irish and English descent' apostrophe should probably be changed or removed unless someone can explain this apparent contradiction. AnthroGael ( talk) 10:46, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
new mexico is dry land and a beautiful state. if you are doing a report on it you made a good choce. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.243.136.175 ( talk) 19:43, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
The current version of the religion section doesn't add up to 100%. Also, it shows Judaism and Protestantism under the Roman Catholic heading. This edit seems to show the religious percentages correctly (and they add up to 100%), based on a RS added. Thoughts? AgnosticPreachersKid ( talk) 01:07, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
The religious affiliation section of 4.3 was hopelessly vandalized and/or garbled, so I've given it a fresh start by replacing the whole thing with new data from the Pew U.S. Religious Landscape Survey from February 2008. The previous version seems to suffer from attempting to mix together data from several sources, as well as not being sourced very well. There is probably some vandalism of the numbers as well—a lot of changes have been made to the data without any change to the citation.
There is an older survey,
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On this article (and several others in New Mexico, e.g., Las Cruces, New Mexico) several editors have been supplying population figures described as being for 2008. However they do not give any sources for the data. The US Census Population Estimate Program is only up to 2006, so presumably these 2008 figures are not from the Census Bureau. Please remember to supply sources for your data ( WP:V) or your changes may be reverted. The WikiProject Cities guidelines at WP:USCITY specify that only US Census data be used. We might accept other sources of data here, but the source needs to be given. Thanks. -- Uncia ( talk) 03:17, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
I forgot to mention that there are also several editors supplying population figures without dates and without sources; the figures are higher than the 2006 Census Bureau estimates, and so are probably 2007 or 2008 figures. We need both dates and sources for these. -- Uncia ( talk) 03:36, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
The most recent originator of the 2008 population figures, Martinez07, has been blocked indefinitely as a sock puppet. -- Uncia ( talk) 01:15, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
User:Cchow2 has been going through all the 50 US States (and I think some foreign ones too) putting the 2007 Census Estimate figures in the infobox (see Special:Contributions/Cchow2). The field is called 2000Pop, which I interpret to mean 2000 Population and not any other year. User:Cchow2 apparently also believes this, but he thinks the 2000 figures are "outdated" and since there is no 2007Pop field he is going to use the 2000Pop field for 2007 data. My view is that since we discuss the 2007 figures under Demographics, it's not urgent to put them in the infobox too, and we should stick to using the 2000 figures in the infobox.
Realize that although the 2007 figures from the Population Estimate Program are "newer" than the 2000 figures, they are not "more accurate". The PEP figures are gotten by a crude estimate and extrapolation while the 2000 Census figures are actual counts: they did their best to count every single person. In other words, the 2000 and the 2007 figures are not the same kind of thing, and you cannot just "update" the 2000 figures by sticking in the 2007 estimates.
I am inviting User:Cchow2 to comment here on his views, and I invite anyone else to comment also to see if we can develop a consensus. Thanks. -- Uncia ( talk) 01:20, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
I have only edited 41 states so far (the 40 most populous states + Alaska). I strongly believe that the 2007 estimates are more accurate than the 2000 actual figures, because we are currently in the year of 2008. Nonetheless, those 2007 estimates figures were officially released by the U.S. Census. If you want the most accurate data as of August 2008, the 2007 estimates are more reliable than the 2000 actual figures. Besides, population figures are never 100% accurate.
http://www.census.gov/popest/states/NST-ann-est.html
Info boxes of Canada's provinces also have 2008 est. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_provinces_and_territories_by_population -- cchow2 ( talk) 01:20, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. And I have updated the density. -- cchow2 ( talk) 01:20, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
An IP editor added the following unsourced statement under Taxes:
Residents serving in the Armed forces are exempt from the state's personal income tax while on active duty.
I believe this is not true, and have been unable to locate a source for this statement. References or corrections would be appreciated. Thanks. -- Uncia ( talk) 19:35, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
This article is currently 72 kB long, which is probably too long (see WP:SIZE). Several sections have already been split into separate articles, and I propose the following additional splits:
These changes would cut the page down to about 50 kB and give it a cleaner look. Comments? -- Uncia ( talk) 16:08, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
OK! I moved the Education and State Symbols lists to other pages. As suggest by Una Smith I added items to Wikitravel for everything in the Tourist Attractions list (most of the items were already there) and deleted that list. And I agree with AlexiusHoratius's suggestion that we retain 5 or 6 paragraphs of information on History and Economy. The page now weighs in at 66 kB (still too big), and I propose to proceed with the two remaining splits, namely:
More comments? -- Uncia ( talk) 05:08, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
OK! I have done the History split. Actually everything in the present article was already in History of New Mexico except for about three sentences, so I copied those over and then condensed and rewrote what was here. History of New Mexico has almost no sources (and is flagged for this), but I gave sources for all statements in the present article's History section. The new History section is eight paragraphs, and I compared it against and modelled it after the History sections in the FAs Minnesota and Oklahoma, as suggested by AlexiusHoratius.
The page is now 64 kB, and the only thing left from my original proposal is to split Economy. In a note just above this, Synchronism objected to splitting Economy but gave no reasons. I still think we should split it now, based on its size and based on precedents in other state articles. I would condense it down to five or six paragraphs as suggested by AlexiusHoratius. What's the consensus: split or keep together? Thanks. -- Uncia ( talk) 13:08, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
All done! I've split the Economy section off into Economy of New Mexico. That article has erratic references (some sections have none, some have many) so I've put a generic refimprove at the top. I also wrote a condensed version (modelled somewhat on Minnesota) for this article. The article is now 56 kB, not too big. As Synchronism notes, many further improvements are possible, but that's probably enough splitting for now, so I've removed the split tag from the top of the page. Thanks to everyone for their suggestions on the splits. -- Uncia ( talk) 00:11, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
The article has improved a lot over the past few weeks, and since we now have a number of editors interested in it, shall we try to bring it up to Good Article status? Some areas need expansion (notably Sports), there are still some lists that need to be replaced with narrative, and it needs better sourcing. But I believe we are not that far away from GA status. Once we are happy with the article, it would still have to go through a review by impartial reviewers to reach this status. There are currently no New Mexico-related articles at GA or FA class, and what better place to start that with New Mexico itself? Comments? Interest? Thanks. -- Uncia ( talk) 13:14, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
The demographic information in this article should be clarified. Twice in this article, it states that New Mexico has the highest percentage of Hispanics in its population of any state, but it never states what that percentage is. -- Metropolitan90 (talk) 01:56, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
I propose that we delete the table of "Demographics of New Mexico" and "largest ancestry groups", and clarify the narrative above them and give references. This is the approach used in the two FA state articles Oklahoma and Minnesota. As AlexiusHoratius and Metropolitan90 point out above, they are not very clear, and as I pointed out they may not be accurate. I think these tables are more detailed than we need in an encyclopedia article. If there is interest, we could point to the Census Bureau reports that contain this detailed data, since they are all online.
Any objections to deletion? Thanks. -- Uncia ( talk) 13:31, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
Currently there is a short top-level section New Mexico#Notable New Mexicans that refers to List of people from New Mexico, and I propose to remove this section. Rationale:
Comments? Thanks. -- Uncia ( talk) 21:38, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
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Shouldn't the list of symbols include the official State Question: "Red or green?" It refers to the red or green chilli sauce which covers so many regional dishes. I'd just add it, but I wanted to ask here in case there's a reason it doesn't belong. JDZeff ( talk) 03:05, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
@ JDZeff: Yes, "Red or green?" is the NM Official State Question, and I think you're right, this should be included. But you need to be sure you spell it right—New Mexicans universally spell these red chile and green chile, not "chilli", though they pronounce "chile" the way you pronounce "chilli". And they don't use the word "sauce". Usually red chile is a sauce (but not always), but they don't use the word sauce. And green chile is (almost) never a sauce, it is usually chopped up pieces of green chiles themselves. Un sch ool 00:07, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
The National Forests and National Parks are listed in the "Protected Areas of New Mexico" section at the bottom of the article. Maybe we should delete this list in the Geography section and just replace it with something like "The U.S. government protects millions of acres of New Mexico as national forests, as well as areas managed by the National Parks Service. See Protected Areas of New Mexico" - Whatsit369 ( talk) 10:35, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
I like first 6 geography pictures but they take up a lot of room. Maybe they should be combined into a collage. - Whatsit369 ( talk) 10:35, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
It would be good if there was more information about NM's involvement in atomic bombs, the Waste Isolation Pilot Plant, and it currently being considered for the nation's first interim storage facility for waste from nuclear power plants (via Holtec International). I'm not sure where in the article to put them, though. The uranium mines could be mentioned, too. (Information on where PNM gets its electricity from could be included somewhere, too.) - Whatsit369 ( talk) 22:09, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
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I don’t see why this is stated at the top of the page. We don’t recommend York for New York City/ New York (state), or Hampshire for New Hampshire, or Jersey for New Jersey. Totally odd and out of place, especially since the naming of New Mexico predates the naming of the country of Mexico, but both were named after the trade-routes to the Aztec Empire and its Capital. Yet I don’t think anyone’s clamoring to add suggestions for the Mexica or Pueblos on either article, because that would be just as absurd. 2601:8C2:8080:1BC0:5929:BD1A:2E0A:A4AD ( talk) 04:28, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
Hi, I was reading this article about the presence of women of color in the political system of the State and I think that maybe something about that could be added in this section. It's not my usual field and this is a page with many visits, so I just leave it as a comment here. Have a nice wiki.-- Alexmar983 ( talk) 00:41, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
Spanish is spoken by over a quarter of the population of New Mexico, at 28.45%. And Navajo is spoken by 65,493 people, at 3.50%, these languages are of extreme importance in the state. Many legal documents are created in English, and in Spanish and Navajo too. 2601:8C2:8080:1BC0:A929:6074:6A62:36B3 ( talk) 16:51, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
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The article says
Due to its large area and economic climate, New Mexico has a large U.S. military presence marked notably with the White Sands Missile Range.
In other words, NM has lots of military because of its large area and its economic climate. The first one makes sense (you can't have lots of military bases in a small place), but I don't understand the second. When the federal government wants a new military base, does it pay attention to the local economy? I would guess that they would care about strategic location (witness lots of Cold War military installations in Alaska) and maybe local real estate prices (so it's cheaper to buy a massive area of land), but I don't understand how the state's economy would be responsible for the large military presence. I couldn't find anything in the rest of the article talking about the military presence being partly due to the economic climate. If any climate is relevant, it's probably the state's arid literal climate, which means that much of the state isn't covered with farms and probably made it a lot less expensive for the federal government to buy massive areas of land. Could this be changed to refer to the effect the military has on the existing economic climate? 2601:5C6:8081:35C0:4807:1190:E7F7:8F2F ( talk) 23:00, 15 October 2020 (UTC)