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For some reason, the article is semi-protected so I can't correct it but there is a typo in the "Initial development, 10th and 11th centuries" section.
By the 11th century, [...] tall, free-standing towers, called bergfried, on lower ground. [...]. In many cases, bergfied were converted [...]
It's written bergfried once (with a link, seems correct) and bergfied the second time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:E35:2ED2:1600:8E89:A5FF:FE34:B27D ( talk) 10:15, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
At "two structures, a motte, a type of mound - often artificial - topped with a wooden or stone structure known as a keep; and ..." punctuation could be: "two structures: a motte, a type of mound - often artificial - topped with a wooden or stone structure known as a keep; and ..." 24.11.170.191 ( talk) 12:08, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
why were motte and bailey castles built????????????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.155.139.105 ( talk) 18:38, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
how are they desined —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.177.35.180 ( talk) 15:46, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
Where are the motte-and-bailey of Sicily? They are so older then british motte (1061 versus 1066). Why there aren't here? Please, adjust this article!-- 79.52.100.178 ( talk) 18:46, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
I've gone through and expanded the article a bit. I've tried to cover off the French literature in the process, but I suspect there's some good articles out there on this topic in German as well (I can't read German at all, sadly). Hchc2009 ( talk) 08:48, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
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I am doing a project about Motte and Bailey Castles but I need 2 know where they were designed and who designed them !? Please help me !? Jacque 11 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.151.33.131 ( talk) 18:43, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
This section needs the word "of" added to it: "there is often a tension among the academic community between explanations that stress military and social reasons for the rise this design." 208.94.30.16 ( talk) 02:23, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
Is it worth mentioning the Müller-Wille system for classifying mottes, which splits them into categories based on their height? Nev1 ( talk) 13:53, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
There are a couple of geographical errors in this article, I live in the town of Langeais and saw that the following is incorrect:
Langeais castle is not in Angers it's in Langeais (citation 97). Langeais is in the Loire Valley, department 37, the Indre-et-Loire, region Centre, not Normandy. (citation 101)
Carofox ( talk) 08:07, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
The image to the right is a 3D model of the well preserved earthwork remains of Castle Pulverbatch, a motte-and-bailey castle probably in use in the 11th and 12th centuries. I thought it might be useful for this article because it shows a site which has not been adapted in the later Middle Ages and since it's effectively and aerial view it shows the scale of the site and the earthworks better than pictures from ground level. Would anyone mind if I added it to this article? The model the image is derived from was commissioned by the Castle Studies Trust who I volunteer for so I wanted to check before adding it. Richard Nevell ( talk) 17:49, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
All, I cropped the image on Commons in an attempt to show the feature better in thumb view. Feel free to revert if you don't think it's an improvement! Eric talk 19:04, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
Soerfm, you don't think the DEM was a good addition to the article? I agree that the Carisbrooke reconstruction model might be a better first pic than the sketch that was there before your change, but I think the DEM should remain (see above discussion), so I reverted your edit for now. Eric talk 12:49, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
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I would like to edit a mistake you put you spelt bretesche wrong you put bretasche witch is wrong so can I make it right so people don't write that and think its right and its not so thank you so I hope you will allow my request thank you for reading I will be awaiting your answer. Rubymaygocoul12 ( talk) 13:52, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
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I wanted to correct several errors, but after I have seen that this article is simiprotectet FOR THE LAST 6 YEARS after just two childish edits I have to assume someone misuses the protection to "own" the article. This is not in the sense of WP and I will not play along. Just one hint: The German word is "Höhenburg" with Umlaut. Change yourself. 47.71.37.1 ( talk) 19:35, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
I notice that a castle named Cabal Trump is referenced, based on the DeVries’ source book. I don’t have access to that book, but a quick Google brings up only QAnon conspiracies. Could someone with the book source confirm that there’s actually a Castle Cabal Trump and that it’s not just vandalism (of which this page has seen much)?
69.196.72.202 ( talk) 18:32, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
Currently, it says that motte-and-bailey style castles had spread "into the Holy Roman Empire in the 11th century". This is definitely wrong as there are various castles of that design in Central Europe, i. e. the Holy Empire, way older than 11th century. In fact, even castle construction program of King Henry the Fowler/ Heinrich I. (first Saxon king of the East-Frankish realm) actually did comprise this type of castle (however, main focus had been on larger fortifications to protect rural population against contemporarian Hungarian onslaught). For more details, please see "Turmhugelburg" which translates to "tower", "mound" and "castle" - which is the motte-and-bailey style castle. 2001:9E8:AA8C:ED00:BD00:3761:526B:69CF ( talk) 11:49, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
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For some reason, the article is semi-protected so I can't correct it but there is a typo in the "Initial development, 10th and 11th centuries" section.
By the 11th century, [...] tall, free-standing towers, called bergfried, on lower ground. [...]. In many cases, bergfied were converted [...]
It's written bergfried once (with a link, seems correct) and bergfied the second time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:E35:2ED2:1600:8E89:A5FF:FE34:B27D ( talk) 10:15, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
At "two structures, a motte, a type of mound - often artificial - topped with a wooden or stone structure known as a keep; and ..." punctuation could be: "two structures: a motte, a type of mound - often artificial - topped with a wooden or stone structure known as a keep; and ..." 24.11.170.191 ( talk) 12:08, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
why were motte and bailey castles built????????????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.155.139.105 ( talk) 18:38, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
how are they desined —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.177.35.180 ( talk) 15:46, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
Where are the motte-and-bailey of Sicily? They are so older then british motte (1061 versus 1066). Why there aren't here? Please, adjust this article!-- 79.52.100.178 ( talk) 18:46, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
I've gone through and expanded the article a bit. I've tried to cover off the French literature in the process, but I suspect there's some good articles out there on this topic in German as well (I can't read German at all, sadly). Hchc2009 ( talk) 08:48, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
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I am doing a project about Motte and Bailey Castles but I need 2 know where they were designed and who designed them !? Please help me !? Jacque 11 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.151.33.131 ( talk) 18:43, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
This section needs the word "of" added to it: "there is often a tension among the academic community between explanations that stress military and social reasons for the rise this design." 208.94.30.16 ( talk) 02:23, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
Is it worth mentioning the Müller-Wille system for classifying mottes, which splits them into categories based on their height? Nev1 ( talk) 13:53, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
There are a couple of geographical errors in this article, I live in the town of Langeais and saw that the following is incorrect:
Langeais castle is not in Angers it's in Langeais (citation 97). Langeais is in the Loire Valley, department 37, the Indre-et-Loire, region Centre, not Normandy. (citation 101)
Carofox ( talk) 08:07, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
The image to the right is a 3D model of the well preserved earthwork remains of Castle Pulverbatch, a motte-and-bailey castle probably in use in the 11th and 12th centuries. I thought it might be useful for this article because it shows a site which has not been adapted in the later Middle Ages and since it's effectively and aerial view it shows the scale of the site and the earthworks better than pictures from ground level. Would anyone mind if I added it to this article? The model the image is derived from was commissioned by the Castle Studies Trust who I volunteer for so I wanted to check before adding it. Richard Nevell ( talk) 17:49, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
All, I cropped the image on Commons in an attempt to show the feature better in thumb view. Feel free to revert if you don't think it's an improvement! Eric talk 19:04, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
Soerfm, you don't think the DEM was a good addition to the article? I agree that the Carisbrooke reconstruction model might be a better first pic than the sketch that was there before your change, but I think the DEM should remain (see above discussion), so I reverted your edit for now. Eric talk 12:49, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
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I would like to edit a mistake you put you spelt bretesche wrong you put bretasche witch is wrong so can I make it right so people don't write that and think its right and its not so thank you so I hope you will allow my request thank you for reading I will be awaiting your answer. Rubymaygocoul12 ( talk) 13:52, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
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2A02:C7D:C40D:7000:B43E:FD19:195D:B307 ( talk) 20:09, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
I wanted to correct several errors, but after I have seen that this article is simiprotectet FOR THE LAST 6 YEARS after just two childish edits I have to assume someone misuses the protection to "own" the article. This is not in the sense of WP and I will not play along. Just one hint: The German word is "Höhenburg" with Umlaut. Change yourself. 47.71.37.1 ( talk) 19:35, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
I notice that a castle named Cabal Trump is referenced, based on the DeVries’ source book. I don’t have access to that book, but a quick Google brings up only QAnon conspiracies. Could someone with the book source confirm that there’s actually a Castle Cabal Trump and that it’s not just vandalism (of which this page has seen much)?
69.196.72.202 ( talk) 18:32, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
Currently, it says that motte-and-bailey style castles had spread "into the Holy Roman Empire in the 11th century". This is definitely wrong as there are various castles of that design in Central Europe, i. e. the Holy Empire, way older than 11th century. In fact, even castle construction program of King Henry the Fowler/ Heinrich I. (first Saxon king of the East-Frankish realm) actually did comprise this type of castle (however, main focus had been on larger fortifications to protect rural population against contemporarian Hungarian onslaught). For more details, please see "Turmhugelburg" which translates to "tower", "mound" and "castle" - which is the motte-and-bailey style castle. 2001:9E8:AA8C:ED00:BD00:3761:526B:69CF ( talk) 11:49, 30 June 2023 (UTC)