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The article wrongly stated that Dr debakey had implanted the first succesful artificial heart in 1963. nonesense. this is pure fiction. dr debakey did not do this. no one did it in 1963. the first total artificial heart was not implanted until years later (by dr denton cooley) and was unsuccesful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Enhandle ( talk • contribs) 17:10, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
Dr DeBakey did perform artificial heart valve replacements in the early 60s — Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.94.37.143 ( talk) 14:48, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
I don't know who removed it, but as a Lebanese American, wether he is Christian or Muslim, Dr. Michael DeBakey is also an Arab American. I have added the Arab American Category again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Veritémaster ( talk • contribs) 12:37, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
There was a discussion whether famous Michael E. DeBakey is Arab American, Lebanese American or nothing of both. I've looked on the homepage of the Arab American Institute and found a page about famous Arab Americans where MD Micahel E, DeBakey is shown. [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Veritémaster ( talk • contribs) 14:03, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
the above article came in th New York Times. it was pasted on word for word (including the byline lol)
is it of any use in the article?
re-worded, does it have any significance?
or shall we just leave it out?
xCentaur | talk 18:50, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
I heard the report, but I find it incredible. While I would love to add this bit of information to his article, I'd like to make sure it is a fact if someone can find an additional source since no other news service has even mentioned it. Heart surgeon DeBakey receives high honor-- Hourick ( talk) 04:12, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
The Washington Post printed his opbituary earlier this week, so perhaps the line about him practicing medicine to this day should likely be changed.----Ze'ev —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.88.102.119 ( talk) 21:36, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
The article states that he suffered an aortic dissection, "the very condition that his pioneering procedure was designed to treat." I don't see anything specific about how his work can help with aortic dissections, though I don't doubt that it's true. Is it the Dacron grafts, perhaps? Anybody with some knowledge want to make it clear? 199.246.40.54 ( talk) 14:59, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Tried to fix up the wording...he created the procedure to repair aortic aneurysms. Hope that clears it up. BeanMD ( talk) 22:37, 12 July 2008 (UTC)BeanMD
The two medical institutions involved, Baylor College of Medicine and The Methodist Hospital, have merely declined to state the real causes of death. This seems to be discrimination against older humans. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.193.144.79 ( talk) 09:15, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
from The Houston Chronicle. This contains quite a bit of information that can be referenced so. [3]-- Hourick ( talk) 21:32, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
The family name was originally the Lebanese “Dabaghi”. His parents had apparently become “DeBakey”s by the time he was born. Yet all the sources say he was born “Dabaghi”. Why would this be so, if he was born to parents whose surname had become “DeBakey”?
This even suggests that his legal name was Dabaghi, and he only used Debakey professionally: The world knows him by the name of Michael DeBakey, but to his very intimate friends and family, he is known as Michel Dabaghi. -- JackofOz ( talk) 23:43, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
His Texas medical license says "Debakey". I don't think the state would knowingly allow anyone to use a phony name for a medical license. Chergles ( talk) 19:11, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
He was very short. This may be notable. Any references? He had to stand on a stool to operate because he was so short. I am not joking. Chergles ( talk) 19:24, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
In 2000, I happened to see him on the street. He was driving a white Toyota RAV-4. Any references to show this? He waved at me. I forgot to get his autograph. Man, is he short. Chergles ( talk) 19:39, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
Reference is http://reg.tmb.state.tx.us/OnLineVerif/Phys_SearchVerif.asp then type in DeBakey. Chergles ( talk) 20:31, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm unable to find any English sources that clearly state that Dr. DeBakey was born in Lebanon and immigrated to the US. I wanted to add one in addition to the Lebanese sources that were added recently. One source
[4] says he "hails from the southern Lebanese town of Marjayoun" but also was "Born to Lebanese immigrants on Sept. 7, 1908, in Lake Charles, La". This is inconsistent to me, what am I not understanding? Thanks,
Postoak (
talk) 23:59, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
: Found one..will add to article
Postoak (
talk) 00:11, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi - I'll attempt to find a reference that directly connects DeBakey to use of animals. Why did you remove the referenced item from his NYT obit? It seems controversial if a medical pioneer is being accused of taking credit for others' work. If the NYT felt that there was sufficient controversy to include this in the guy's obituary, then it seems reasonable that some controversy exists. Bob98133 ( talk) 22:37, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
The BMJ obituary mentions DeBakey's role in MASH units, which is why he has an army honour. Should be mentioned, really, shouldn't it? doi: 10.1136/bmj.a870 JFW | T@lk 14:32, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
Missing details of Michael E. DeBakey's books:
M.E. DeBakey: The living heart. Putnam Publishing Group, 1983.
M.E. DeBakey: The Living heart diet. New York: Raven Press/Simon and Schuster, 1984.
M.E. DeBakey: New living heart. Adams, 1997.
Fleabox ( talk) 18:28, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
DeBakeys dine with Newton]." Houston Chronicle. Friday February 18, 1994. Houston 1. WhisperToMe ( talk) 20:20, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
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In 1994, Neal Barnard interviewed Dr. Michael Debakey for his book, "The Power of Your Plate: A Plan for Better Living Eating Well for Better Health - 20 Experts Tell You How!" (ISBN-10: 157067003X) https://www.amazon.com/Power-Your-Plate-Eating-Experts/dp/157067003X/ref=mt_paperback?_encoding=UTF8&me=
In the interview, Debakey references how he feels teaching surgical and medical procedures using human subjects is far more effective than using animal models for training. The interview in its entirety is found in Chapter 2 of the book.
The interview seems to be available in its entirety at the Google Books link, as of 9/11/17: https://books.google.com/books?id=rBHrBgAAQBAJ&pg=PT37&lpg=PT37&dq=neal+barnard+debakey&source=bl&ots=9IFesCfwsP&sig=FclgPOCs-jiU1A_V5aQtoeb1Mzg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjHuvaNlJ7WAhXL3YMKHaaZDRMQ6AEIMTAB#v=onepage&q=neal%20barnard%20debakey&f=false
Knowing that Debakey had a more nuanced view of the use of animals in clinical training seems to be valuable, and I would hope that someone better versed in how to skillfully add a Wikipedia edit might be kind enough to add that to Debakey's page. Thank you for your consideration and potential support. Please have a wonderful day. Gaom83 ( talk) 00:31, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
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The article wrongly stated that Dr debakey had implanted the first succesful artificial heart in 1963. nonesense. this is pure fiction. dr debakey did not do this. no one did it in 1963. the first total artificial heart was not implanted until years later (by dr denton cooley) and was unsuccesful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Enhandle ( talk • contribs) 17:10, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
Dr DeBakey did perform artificial heart valve replacements in the early 60s — Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.94.37.143 ( talk) 14:48, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
I don't know who removed it, but as a Lebanese American, wether he is Christian or Muslim, Dr. Michael DeBakey is also an Arab American. I have added the Arab American Category again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Veritémaster ( talk • contribs) 12:37, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
There was a discussion whether famous Michael E. DeBakey is Arab American, Lebanese American or nothing of both. I've looked on the homepage of the Arab American Institute and found a page about famous Arab Americans where MD Micahel E, DeBakey is shown. [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Veritémaster ( talk • contribs) 14:03, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
the above article came in th New York Times. it was pasted on word for word (including the byline lol)
is it of any use in the article?
re-worded, does it have any significance?
or shall we just leave it out?
xCentaur | talk 18:50, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
I heard the report, but I find it incredible. While I would love to add this bit of information to his article, I'd like to make sure it is a fact if someone can find an additional source since no other news service has even mentioned it. Heart surgeon DeBakey receives high honor-- Hourick ( talk) 04:12, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
The Washington Post printed his opbituary earlier this week, so perhaps the line about him practicing medicine to this day should likely be changed.----Ze'ev —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.88.102.119 ( talk) 21:36, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
The article states that he suffered an aortic dissection, "the very condition that his pioneering procedure was designed to treat." I don't see anything specific about how his work can help with aortic dissections, though I don't doubt that it's true. Is it the Dacron grafts, perhaps? Anybody with some knowledge want to make it clear? 199.246.40.54 ( talk) 14:59, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Tried to fix up the wording...he created the procedure to repair aortic aneurysms. Hope that clears it up. BeanMD ( talk) 22:37, 12 July 2008 (UTC)BeanMD
The two medical institutions involved, Baylor College of Medicine and The Methodist Hospital, have merely declined to state the real causes of death. This seems to be discrimination against older humans. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.193.144.79 ( talk) 09:15, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
from The Houston Chronicle. This contains quite a bit of information that can be referenced so. [3]-- Hourick ( talk) 21:32, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
The family name was originally the Lebanese “Dabaghi”. His parents had apparently become “DeBakey”s by the time he was born. Yet all the sources say he was born “Dabaghi”. Why would this be so, if he was born to parents whose surname had become “DeBakey”?
This even suggests that his legal name was Dabaghi, and he only used Debakey professionally: The world knows him by the name of Michael DeBakey, but to his very intimate friends and family, he is known as Michel Dabaghi. -- JackofOz ( talk) 23:43, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
His Texas medical license says "Debakey". I don't think the state would knowingly allow anyone to use a phony name for a medical license. Chergles ( talk) 19:11, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
He was very short. This may be notable. Any references? He had to stand on a stool to operate because he was so short. I am not joking. Chergles ( talk) 19:24, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
In 2000, I happened to see him on the street. He was driving a white Toyota RAV-4. Any references to show this? He waved at me. I forgot to get his autograph. Man, is he short. Chergles ( talk) 19:39, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
Reference is http://reg.tmb.state.tx.us/OnLineVerif/Phys_SearchVerif.asp then type in DeBakey. Chergles ( talk) 20:31, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm unable to find any English sources that clearly state that Dr. DeBakey was born in Lebanon and immigrated to the US. I wanted to add one in addition to the Lebanese sources that were added recently. One source
[4] says he "hails from the southern Lebanese town of Marjayoun" but also was "Born to Lebanese immigrants on Sept. 7, 1908, in Lake Charles, La". This is inconsistent to me, what am I not understanding? Thanks,
Postoak (
talk) 23:59, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
: Found one..will add to article
Postoak (
talk) 00:11, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi - I'll attempt to find a reference that directly connects DeBakey to use of animals. Why did you remove the referenced item from his NYT obit? It seems controversial if a medical pioneer is being accused of taking credit for others' work. If the NYT felt that there was sufficient controversy to include this in the guy's obituary, then it seems reasonable that some controversy exists. Bob98133 ( talk) 22:37, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
The BMJ obituary mentions DeBakey's role in MASH units, which is why he has an army honour. Should be mentioned, really, shouldn't it? doi: 10.1136/bmj.a870 JFW | T@lk 14:32, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
Missing details of Michael E. DeBakey's books:
M.E. DeBakey: The living heart. Putnam Publishing Group, 1983.
M.E. DeBakey: The Living heart diet. New York: Raven Press/Simon and Schuster, 1984.
M.E. DeBakey: New living heart. Adams, 1997.
Fleabox ( talk) 18:28, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
DeBakeys dine with Newton]." Houston Chronicle. Friday February 18, 1994. Houston 1. WhisperToMe ( talk) 20:20, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
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In 1994, Neal Barnard interviewed Dr. Michael Debakey for his book, "The Power of Your Plate: A Plan for Better Living Eating Well for Better Health - 20 Experts Tell You How!" (ISBN-10: 157067003X) https://www.amazon.com/Power-Your-Plate-Eating-Experts/dp/157067003X/ref=mt_paperback?_encoding=UTF8&me=
In the interview, Debakey references how he feels teaching surgical and medical procedures using human subjects is far more effective than using animal models for training. The interview in its entirety is found in Chapter 2 of the book.
The interview seems to be available in its entirety at the Google Books link, as of 9/11/17: https://books.google.com/books?id=rBHrBgAAQBAJ&pg=PT37&lpg=PT37&dq=neal+barnard+debakey&source=bl&ots=9IFesCfwsP&sig=FclgPOCs-jiU1A_V5aQtoeb1Mzg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjHuvaNlJ7WAhXL3YMKHaaZDRMQ6AEIMTAB#v=onepage&q=neal%20barnard%20debakey&f=false
Knowing that Debakey had a more nuanced view of the use of animals in clinical training seems to be valuable, and I would hope that someone better versed in how to skillfully add a Wikipedia edit might be kind enough to add that to Debakey's page. Thank you for your consideration and potential support. Please have a wonderful day. Gaom83 ( talk) 00:31, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
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