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This banner has been in place for 2 years now. EyeLibrarian is retired from the University of Iowa and has no personal hierarchical connection to Michael Abramoff for more than 2 years. We can ask someone else to update these pages as they are now seriously out of date, and also clear up the banner, but not sure what to do. Please advise what is best option. For clarification: everything on the page is/can be documented by independent sources.

Rotterdam5000 ( talk) 19:21, 4 August 2020 (UTC) reply

@ Rotterdam5000: To answer your concern: EyeLibrarian does not WP:OWN this article. No one does. Any Wikipedian can pick up and continue editing and update the pages; EyeLibrarian never had that kind of ownership over the article to begin with. I will probably leave the banner in case EyeLibrarian comes back, just to let everyone know this editor has declared a conflict of interest in regards to the subject. It's an advisement to other Wikipedians when filtering their contributions. Red Phoenix talk 23:36, 4 August 2020 (UTC) reply

Thanks a lot for answering. Want to make sure I understand you correctly that even though there has not been a conflict for the past two years, the fact that there has been such a conflict in the past is enough to leave the banner up. In that case, the solution seems to be to have another third person, without any conflict, touch the entire page? Alternatively, have EyeLibrarian assert that there is no current conflict anymore - if we know how to reach her 21:01, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

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Mobilizecloud, you removed both COI templates in this edit. I don't see any discussion here to justify its removal, and looking at the article's edit history and the contributions of those editors, I think the COI templates rightfully should remain. Kimen8 ( talk) 14:23, 31 October 2023 (UTC) reply

@ Kimen8 we were asked to do a third party review of the page. Which we've been working on for the past several weeks. We've taken care of rewriting sections, and adjusting all references accordingly.
The direct links off to the corporate site have been removed.
There should be no need for either template at this point. Mobilizecloud ( talk) 14:32, 31 October 2023 (UTC) reply
Sorry if I'm stepping on toes, but who is "we"? I just removed an external link to the corporate site that had been left in. Kimen8 ( talk) 14:35, 31 October 2023 (UTC) reply
Mobilize Cloud, we are a web development agency and we were asked to do a third party audit of the wiki page and update of all sources. Mobilizecloud ( talk) 14:38, 31 October 2023 (UTC) reply
Asked to audit it by who? And enough of the body of the article still reads as COI/self-promotional that I think the notices should stay (also, the discussion above this on this talk page seems to indicate that as well). Kimen8 ( talk) 14:44, 31 October 2023 (UTC) reply
Digital Diagnostics. Not really sure how it still reads as COI/self-promotion. It's an overview of Dr. Abramoff career with direct citations to all sources.
Can you please give me examples of where you are seeing COI/Self-promotion? Mobilizecloud ( talk) 14:46, 31 October 2023 (UTC) reply
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COI Banner

This banner has been in place for 2 years now. EyeLibrarian is retired from the University of Iowa and has no personal hierarchical connection to Michael Abramoff for more than 2 years. We can ask someone else to update these pages as they are now seriously out of date, and also clear up the banner, but not sure what to do. Please advise what is best option. For clarification: everything on the page is/can be documented by independent sources.

Rotterdam5000 ( talk) 19:21, 4 August 2020 (UTC) reply

@ Rotterdam5000: To answer your concern: EyeLibrarian does not WP:OWN this article. No one does. Any Wikipedian can pick up and continue editing and update the pages; EyeLibrarian never had that kind of ownership over the article to begin with. I will probably leave the banner in case EyeLibrarian comes back, just to let everyone know this editor has declared a conflict of interest in regards to the subject. It's an advisement to other Wikipedians when filtering their contributions. Red Phoenix talk 23:36, 4 August 2020 (UTC) reply

Thanks a lot for answering. Want to make sure I understand you correctly that even though there has not been a conflict for the past two years, the fact that there has been such a conflict in the past is enough to leave the banner up. In that case, the solution seems to be to have another third person, without any conflict, touch the entire page? Alternatively, have EyeLibrarian assert that there is no current conflict anymore - if we know how to reach her 21:01, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

COI

Mobilizecloud, you removed both COI templates in this edit. I don't see any discussion here to justify its removal, and looking at the article's edit history and the contributions of those editors, I think the COI templates rightfully should remain. Kimen8 ( talk) 14:23, 31 October 2023 (UTC) reply

@ Kimen8 we were asked to do a third party review of the page. Which we've been working on for the past several weeks. We've taken care of rewriting sections, and adjusting all references accordingly.
The direct links off to the corporate site have been removed.
There should be no need for either template at this point. Mobilizecloud ( talk) 14:32, 31 October 2023 (UTC) reply
Sorry if I'm stepping on toes, but who is "we"? I just removed an external link to the corporate site that had been left in. Kimen8 ( talk) 14:35, 31 October 2023 (UTC) reply
Mobilize Cloud, we are a web development agency and we were asked to do a third party audit of the wiki page and update of all sources. Mobilizecloud ( talk) 14:38, 31 October 2023 (UTC) reply
Asked to audit it by who? And enough of the body of the article still reads as COI/self-promotional that I think the notices should stay (also, the discussion above this on this talk page seems to indicate that as well). Kimen8 ( talk) 14:44, 31 October 2023 (UTC) reply
Digital Diagnostics. Not really sure how it still reads as COI/self-promotion. It's an overview of Dr. Abramoff career with direct citations to all sources.
Can you please give me examples of where you are seeing COI/Self-promotion? Mobilizecloud ( talk) 14:46, 31 October 2023 (UTC) reply

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