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lol am I the only person who noticed that? I say we include it in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.234.138.36 ( talk) 06:43, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
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Please update Mario Gotze's page to show that he has moved club. It does not show it on the page, but it does on the source Th5 Blazez ( talk) 16:49, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
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Please change the final sentence to read as follows:
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Result: Consensus is to include a brief mention of the subject's religion.
Four editors expressed themselves as opposed to inclusion of the material, but three of these editors also expressed themselves as being open to persuasion and/or being unconcerned about a brief mention, so opposition is quite weak overall. Nine editors supported inclusion. These editors seemed to be generally of the view that WP:UNDUE coverage of the subject's faith should be avoided and that coverage should be proportionate to its coverage in sources, which is minor.
It seems fairly clear, then, that there is consensus to include reference to the subject's religion so long as it is brief. The current wording in the article ("Götze is a Christian") seems to fulfil this.
Material about the subject's religion was recently added:
Götze is a Christian.Hinrichs, Miriam (26 June 2014). "«Ich danke Gott!»" (in German). jesus.ch. Retrieved 26 June 2014. "Götze dankt Gott bei Facebook" (in German). Bild. 26 June 2014. Retrieved 26 June 2014.
Maybe if this had some context or relevance or the bio was fully written this could be considered for inclusion. I would leave this out for now unless it has some significance. -- Malerooster ( talk) 19:59, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
As you can see from the discussion one editor has strong feelings against including information about the subject's faith in the article while a few don't seem to have a problem with it. Is it gratuitous and unnecessary or encyclopedic material worth including in a biography? Walter Görlitz ( talk) 05:05, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
It's relevant to mention a sports person's religious beliefs (or lack of them as the case may be) as that's something that might interest the general reading public. So yes, it should be included. Be-nice:-) ( talk) 12:22, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
--I agree with NinjaRobotPirate about a single sentence being sufficient. It's also consistent with single references to religion on the pages of other athletes and public figures. One thing I would note is that I have seen him described in the press alternately as a "devout", "devoted", and "practicing" Christian. To me, those three words suggest different meanings. He's described in the wiki as "devout". I'm not sure if others are concerned about the distinction.
A big chunk of the lead is devoted to Götze's (and Germany's) performance at the U17 tournament. I think it's out of place in the opening and should be moved elsewhere - perhaps to the section on international play? Phil Kessel ( talk) 02:52, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
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"Mario Götze (German pronunciation: [ˈɡœtsə]; born 3 June 1992) is a German footballer who plays as an attacking midfielder for Bayern Munich and the Germany national team."
It has now officially been announced that Gotze has moved to Borussia Dortmund. Therefore, I request you to please change his current club from Bayern Munich to Borussia Dortmund.
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Sky sports have reported just two hours ago the deal has been completed. I read the article and it does say he hasnt completed a medical however they do say that is all that stands in the way Theyoungy97 ( talk) 13:11, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
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MoleMennell ( talk) 12:19, 22 July 2016 (UTC) He is now at borussia dortmund
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lol am I the only person who noticed that? I say we include it in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.234.138.36 ( talk) 06:43, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
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Please update Mario Gotze's page to show that he has moved club. It does not show it on the page, but it does on the source Th5 Blazez ( talk) 16:49, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
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Please change the final sentence to read as follows:
Thanks. 68.165.77.254 ( talk) 10:21, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
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Result: Consensus is to include a brief mention of the subject's religion.
Four editors expressed themselves as opposed to inclusion of the material, but three of these editors also expressed themselves as being open to persuasion and/or being unconcerned about a brief mention, so opposition is quite weak overall. Nine editors supported inclusion. These editors seemed to be generally of the view that WP:UNDUE coverage of the subject's faith should be avoided and that coverage should be proportionate to its coverage in sources, which is minor.
It seems fairly clear, then, that there is consensus to include reference to the subject's religion so long as it is brief. The current wording in the article ("Götze is a Christian") seems to fulfil this.
Material about the subject's religion was recently added:
Götze is a Christian.Hinrichs, Miriam (26 June 2014). "«Ich danke Gott!»" (in German). jesus.ch. Retrieved 26 June 2014. "Götze dankt Gott bei Facebook" (in German). Bild. 26 June 2014. Retrieved 26 June 2014.
Maybe if this had some context or relevance or the bio was fully written this could be considered for inclusion. I would leave this out for now unless it has some significance. -- Malerooster ( talk) 19:59, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
As you can see from the discussion one editor has strong feelings against including information about the subject's faith in the article while a few don't seem to have a problem with it. Is it gratuitous and unnecessary or encyclopedic material worth including in a biography? Walter Görlitz ( talk) 05:05, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
It's relevant to mention a sports person's religious beliefs (or lack of them as the case may be) as that's something that might interest the general reading public. So yes, it should be included. Be-nice:-) ( talk) 12:22, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
--I agree with NinjaRobotPirate about a single sentence being sufficient. It's also consistent with single references to religion on the pages of other athletes and public figures. One thing I would note is that I have seen him described in the press alternately as a "devout", "devoted", and "practicing" Christian. To me, those three words suggest different meanings. He's described in the wiki as "devout". I'm not sure if others are concerned about the distinction.
A big chunk of the lead is devoted to Götze's (and Germany's) performance at the U17 tournament. I think it's out of place in the opening and should be moved elsewhere - perhaps to the section on international play? Phil Kessel ( talk) 02:52, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
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"Mario Götze (German pronunciation: [ˈɡœtsə]; born 3 June 1992) is a German footballer who plays as an attacking midfielder for Bayern Munich and the Germany national team."
It has now officially been announced that Gotze has moved to Borussia Dortmund. Therefore, I request you to please change his current club from Bayern Munich to Borussia Dortmund.
61.0.29.182 (
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Sky sports have reported just two hours ago the deal has been completed. I read the article and it does say he hasnt completed a medical however they do say that is all that stands in the way Theyoungy97 ( talk) 13:11, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
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MoleMennell ( talk) 12:19, 22 July 2016 (UTC) He is now at borussia dortmund
Forcing thumbnail size is not needed. See wiki/Help:Files#Using files. Generally, sizing should only be used when you want to force a small image to be large, not when you want to make a large image smaller. Several infoboxes make that clear. The fact that two of the five images are being forced larger than the 200 pixels by @ Hurrygane: also means that "really slow/heavy when these pictures are being oversized" is not even a valid argument. If they're too large, registered users can set their own size. It's another reason for registering. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 13:50, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
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