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Supposed copyright violation

The article was tagged as a copyright violation of this source dated May 9, 2008. The article predates the "source", and the duplicate content was already in the article before the "source" was written: They plagiarized us. I have thus removed the copyright tag, but we need a better source. That one clearly is circular. Huon ( talk) 06:18, 13 August 2013 (UTC) reply

You may be right about this. Obviously I thought about it carefully before placing the copyvio tag (and noted the discrepancy in my edit summary). The fact remains that it is relatively unusual for complete ready-written articles to appear in this wiki, especially when that ready-written material is apparently drawn from a more complete version elsewhere. Possible explanations are that the article was previously published somewhere else, or that our article was contributed by the same author. I've asked for some expert eyes on this. I may very well be wrong (I have been many times before) but it doesn't seem "right" to me. And if I'm wrong, then let me apologise now. Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 09:24, 13 August 2013 (UTC) reply
I suspect that they did not plagiarize us, but that rather we both took content from the first source cited by the article, the title of which was added in April of that year ( [1]...it looks familiar, no?). Unfortunately, I can't access archives for that article, and there's nothing to identify its author (it could be the same woman). Even the archives of his official website (though also cited and clearly in existence then) don't go back that far. Maddeningly, I can only get at the beginning of the issue, here. :P Without evidence, I don't think we can process this further, but it's good to note the possibility here. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 18:40, 13 August 2013 (UTC) reply
Thanks, MRG! Once again the expert eye lights straight on the crux of the matter. Would it be appropriate now to prune out the bulk of what appears to be copy-pasted material? Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 00:13, 15 August 2013 (UTC) reply
When in doubt, I am more inclined to rewrite than to remove, since it might actually not be a copyvio. :) -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 21:05, 15 August 2013 (UTC) reply

And someone went straight ahead and copy-pasted more stuff here... Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 12:49, 22 August 2013 (UTC) reply

Reference format

I'd like to try to clean up this article a bit. It's a shame that our page on such an interesting person should read so like a news release. I'd also like to improve the references, convert bare links to full citations and so on. Would anyone object if I changed the referencing system to list-defined at the same time? It would make it a lot easier to sort out the external links. Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 12:49, 22 August 2013 (UTC) reply

Moved here from my talk page

I am trying to add references to updated information from articles and sources but for some reason you disapprove, delete and undo. Please help me figure out a way to amend this with appreciation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Qetuipadgjlzcbm ( talkcontribs) 23:27, 11 February 2014 (UTC) reply

I'm sorry you are having trouble. I think it's mostly a matter of some small errors in formatting; I fixed some a couple of days ago, will fix more in a minute. However, the source given for the supposed family relationship with Steve Jobs cannot possibly be considered a reliable source in Wikipedia. It's not clear to me why you and several other editors find it so important to keep adding this unsupported statement to the article. Jandali is obviously fully notable and quite interesting in his own right, and doesn't need a connection to poor Jobs to give him status. Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 01:06, 13 February 2014 (UTC) reply

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Supposed copyright violation

The article was tagged as a copyright violation of this source dated May 9, 2008. The article predates the "source", and the duplicate content was already in the article before the "source" was written: They plagiarized us. I have thus removed the copyright tag, but we need a better source. That one clearly is circular. Huon ( talk) 06:18, 13 August 2013 (UTC) reply

You may be right about this. Obviously I thought about it carefully before placing the copyvio tag (and noted the discrepancy in my edit summary). The fact remains that it is relatively unusual for complete ready-written articles to appear in this wiki, especially when that ready-written material is apparently drawn from a more complete version elsewhere. Possible explanations are that the article was previously published somewhere else, or that our article was contributed by the same author. I've asked for some expert eyes on this. I may very well be wrong (I have been many times before) but it doesn't seem "right" to me. And if I'm wrong, then let me apologise now. Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 09:24, 13 August 2013 (UTC) reply
I suspect that they did not plagiarize us, but that rather we both took content from the first source cited by the article, the title of which was added in April of that year ( [1]...it looks familiar, no?). Unfortunately, I can't access archives for that article, and there's nothing to identify its author (it could be the same woman). Even the archives of his official website (though also cited and clearly in existence then) don't go back that far. Maddeningly, I can only get at the beginning of the issue, here. :P Without evidence, I don't think we can process this further, but it's good to note the possibility here. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 18:40, 13 August 2013 (UTC) reply
Thanks, MRG! Once again the expert eye lights straight on the crux of the matter. Would it be appropriate now to prune out the bulk of what appears to be copy-pasted material? Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 00:13, 15 August 2013 (UTC) reply
When in doubt, I am more inclined to rewrite than to remove, since it might actually not be a copyvio. :) -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 21:05, 15 August 2013 (UTC) reply

And someone went straight ahead and copy-pasted more stuff here... Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 12:49, 22 August 2013 (UTC) reply

Reference format

I'd like to try to clean up this article a bit. It's a shame that our page on such an interesting person should read so like a news release. I'd also like to improve the references, convert bare links to full citations and so on. Would anyone object if I changed the referencing system to list-defined at the same time? It would make it a lot easier to sort out the external links. Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 12:49, 22 August 2013 (UTC) reply

Moved here from my talk page

I am trying to add references to updated information from articles and sources but for some reason you disapprove, delete and undo. Please help me figure out a way to amend this with appreciation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Qetuipadgjlzcbm ( talkcontribs) 23:27, 11 February 2014 (UTC) reply

I'm sorry you are having trouble. I think it's mostly a matter of some small errors in formatting; I fixed some a couple of days ago, will fix more in a minute. However, the source given for the supposed family relationship with Steve Jobs cannot possibly be considered a reliable source in Wikipedia. It's not clear to me why you and several other editors find it so important to keep adding this unsupported statement to the article. Jandali is obviously fully notable and quite interesting in his own right, and doesn't need a connection to poor Jobs to give him status. Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 01:06, 13 February 2014 (UTC) reply

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