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"It died out in the 20th century and is no longer encountered today. By contrast, Bernd Baron von Maydell confirmed recently that Müller Matz is still played today in German Baltic families."
This is plainly contradictory and not a useful contrast to make. I'm inclined to side with Irving Finkel's belief that games never completely die out (it'll still be some family's traditional game somewhere), so will tone that first line down to a "decline" and flag it all as needing sourcing. -- Lord Belbury ( talk) 17:37, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
Does seem very plausible. "Confirmed" is quite a weighty phrasing, though, and the paragraph still reads like that lazy Wikipedia cliche of "X is true. However, X is actually false." where one editor disagrees and merely adds a contradicting sentence. I've toned it down to a "suggestion", and dropped out the "recently" and "today" as redundant (the previous sentence already said "today", and if Maydell talks of the game being "still played today", that implies he said it recently). -- Lord Belbury ( talk) 09:26, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
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This article was edited to contain a total or partial translation of Müller Matz from the German Wikipedia. Consult the history of the original page to see a list of its authors. (This notice applies to version 918738789 and subsequent versions of this page.) |
"It died out in the 20th century and is no longer encountered today. By contrast, Bernd Baron von Maydell confirmed recently that Müller Matz is still played today in German Baltic families."
This is plainly contradictory and not a useful contrast to make. I'm inclined to side with Irving Finkel's belief that games never completely die out (it'll still be some family's traditional game somewhere), so will tone that first line down to a "decline" and flag it all as needing sourcing. -- Lord Belbury ( talk) 17:37, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
Does seem very plausible. "Confirmed" is quite a weighty phrasing, though, and the paragraph still reads like that lazy Wikipedia cliche of "X is true. However, X is actually false." where one editor disagrees and merely adds a contradicting sentence. I've toned it down to a "suggestion", and dropped out the "recently" and "today" as redundant (the previous sentence already said "today", and if Maydell talks of the game being "still played today", that implies he said it recently). -- Lord Belbury ( talk) 09:26, 20 April 2020 (UTC)