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I was not aware that a previous article on this person was deleted. I hope that this one will be better received. Jrcrin001 ( talk) 09:22, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
Please do not marginalize the Medal of Honor section and the image of the 1896 version of the MOH. I strongly feel that this is important to the article on Louis H. Carpenter and honors the men he served with. Thank you. Jrcrin001 ( talk) 17:30, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
Each section now has a suitable reference except for the intro paragraph which does not need them. I do appreciate those who helped clean up this article. We may have the occasional disagreement, but our common goal is for a better article for the public. It appears B1 is now yes? What else is needed to go to GA status? Jrcrin001 ( talk) 17:58, 4 July 2009 (UTC) Done
1 The Medal of Honor image should be moved to the section with his Medal of Honor.
2 There are a couple of "references" refering to see also that should be removed. 11 and 12 I think
3 There is 1 reference that should be split away into a separate Footnotes section. 14 I think. Thats all I see at the moment.
4 I also think that a separate section should be added for Honors and awards and include the Medal of Honor and any other awards he might have received as as as possibly a display of his Medals (see Smedley Butler for an example).
5 there are also several DAB links [ |See here]. Done 6 There are also some Reference issues [ | here].
7 The structure should be cleaned up. It does not need to be chronologically ordered but right now the flow of the article is somewhat choppy and should be reorganized to group like things together, for example start with his Ancestry, education and Early life then go into his military career, then retirement and later years, then Honors and awards (including the Medal of Honor and any others he might have received). Done 8 It might also be advisable to put it through a peer review also, its been my experience that if you do not put it through peer review first it will sit in the GA review and languish for at least 30 days before anyone looks at it. Done I have 3 there now that have been there since the beginning of June and I am getting ready to submit a couple more along with the 3 I have in peer review and the 2 I currently have pending FLC.-- Kumioko ( talk) 03:55, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
I added the large bio format above and a few more tasks completed. I leave 7 & 8 for Kumioko to review. see above. I also see duplicate references, in the past I used IBID. What is the better way of citing those duplicates? Jrcrin001 ( talk) 22:43, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
I put a question and request regarding the conflicting instructions of portal placement at Portal talk:Biography. Jrcrin001 ( talk) 22:48, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Louis Henry Carpenter | |
---|---|
[[File::File:LouisHCarpenter.jpg|frameless|upright=1]] | |
Place of burial | Trinity Episcopal Church New Cemetery,
Swedesboro,
Gloucester County, New Jersey |
Allegiance | United States of America |
Service/ |
Department of War -
Army & Union Army |
Years of service | 1861 - 1899 - 38 years of service. |
Rank | Brigadier General |
Unit |
6th U.S. Cavalry as a private 1861 - 1862 6th U.S. Cavalry as an officer 1862 - 1866 10th U.S. Cavalry 1866 - 1883 5th U.S. Cavalry 1883 - 1892 7th U.S. Cavalry 1892 - 1897 5th U.S. Cavalry 1897 - 1898 |
Commands held | 1st Division, 3rd Corps at Chickamauga in May 1898 3rd Division, 4th Corps at Tampa, Florida later in 1898 Military Governor of the providence of Puerto Principe, Cuba until in July 1899. |
Battles/wars |
American Civil War - 16 campaigns Indian Wars - 4 major campaigns Spanish–American War - Cuba |
Awards | Medal of Honor |
Relations | James Edward Carpenter, brother |
Other work | writer and speaker 1899-1915 |
I placed the old info box here for comparison purposes. Apparently the little images are a no-no when working toward a GA status. But, I personaly think it enhances the info box. Jrcrin001 ( talk) 22:59, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
This article met GA staus via peer review and a lot of help. Thank you to those who contributed! Jrcrin001 ( talk) 15:53, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
Can this article meet the following five criteria which is much stricker than the B-class format?
A1. The article is consistently referenced with an appropriate citation style, and all claims are verifiable against reputable sources, accurately represent the relevant body of published knowledge, and are supported with specific evidence and external citations as appropriate.
A2. The article is comprehensive, factually accurate, neutral and focused on the main topic; it neglects no major facts or details, presents views fairly and without bias, and does not go into unnecessary detail.
A3. The article has an appropriate structure of hierarchical headings, including a concise lead section that summarizes the topic and prepares the reader for the detail in the subsequent sections, and a substantial but not overwhelming table of contents.
A4. The article is written in concise and articulate English; its prose is clear, is in line with style guidelines, and does not require substantial copy-editing to be fully MoS-compliant.
A5. The article contains supporting visual materials, such as images or diagrams with succinct captions, and other media, where appropriate.
See also the A-Class review & criteria FAQ.
Any help to achieve this "A-Class" would be very helpful. Constructive comments welcome! Jrcrin001 ( talk) 16:30, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
I expanded LHC's sections on his continued frontier service as requested in the A review. New refs given for these sections and some may need some tweaking. I had some problems with a bot reverting several revisions instead of one. Hopefully all of these revs were taken care of. Jrcrin001 ( talk) 20:42, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
A-Class review closed after 28 days and the results were "Fail." Jrcrin001 ( talk) 16:31, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Would it be appropiate to add categories similar to the following? Or is this overkill?
Comments? Jrcrin001 ( talk) 20:47, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
This article is coming along, but still needs some work before we get it A/FA status. We'll get there though. I fixed some things on here and I will be back to do some more but in the mean time here are some things that I notice in the article that I think should be corrected.
Not done
I have a couple friends at the National Archives and at the library of congress doing some digging for me on ol' Louis here so if they come up with anything new I will get them to load it to the appropriate website and let you know were its at. Its not original research if you can find it in google.;-)-- Kumioko ( talk) 03:01, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
I removed this section in the article. While the Official Records cite a Carpenter there, the 6th US Cavalry Regiment was not present. It was the 6th Maine Cavalry Regiment. I found an error in a cite. Jrcrin001 ( talk) 20:24, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
I added wikibox for chain of command reference for engagements and battles the the 6th & Carpenter took part of. I also added 6th US Cav battles & engagements for June and July 1863 to show how involved Carpenter was in the campaign. I am still waiting for more info to come in to fill in details of other battles and a few dates needed. Jrcrin001 ( talk) 01:43, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
I added new information that I had been waiting on for some time. I added some more pictures which may be one too many. Big updates on ranks, assignments and the related dates. The information on the 5th United States Colored Cavalry (USCC) is newly added. No doubt I have mis-spelling or grammer errors despite my efforts!
I am not sure the current format of Image verses File for pictures? Is there a difference? As always, any help appreciated. This is about as complete as I can get this article.
Jrcrin001 ( talk) 08:35, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
As per the request on my talk page, here is a quick review of the article. I'd suggest putting it up for peer review before going to ACR or FA. Here are some suggestions, although I haven't had time to thoroughly go through the article.
Overall you've put in a lot of a work, which I think is great, however, I would advise caution in taking it to FA at this stage. A peer review might help iron out some issues that might arise there. — AustralianRupert ( talk) 09:51, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
In the listing of Carpenter's promotions and their insignia (ranks), I see what looks like the modern versions (images). However, with at least one of the insignia, Second Lieutenant, there was no such insignia until the 1900s. (I have not looked at the others.) Accordingly, I recommend either editing to provide original insignia or a notation that these are the modern versions.-- S. Rich ( talk) 15:56, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
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I was not aware that a previous article on this person was deleted. I hope that this one will be better received. Jrcrin001 ( talk) 09:22, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
Please do not marginalize the Medal of Honor section and the image of the 1896 version of the MOH. I strongly feel that this is important to the article on Louis H. Carpenter and honors the men he served with. Thank you. Jrcrin001 ( talk) 17:30, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
Each section now has a suitable reference except for the intro paragraph which does not need them. I do appreciate those who helped clean up this article. We may have the occasional disagreement, but our common goal is for a better article for the public. It appears B1 is now yes? What else is needed to go to GA status? Jrcrin001 ( talk) 17:58, 4 July 2009 (UTC) Done
1 The Medal of Honor image should be moved to the section with his Medal of Honor.
2 There are a couple of "references" refering to see also that should be removed. 11 and 12 I think
3 There is 1 reference that should be split away into a separate Footnotes section. 14 I think. Thats all I see at the moment.
4 I also think that a separate section should be added for Honors and awards and include the Medal of Honor and any other awards he might have received as as as possibly a display of his Medals (see Smedley Butler for an example).
5 there are also several DAB links [ |See here]. Done 6 There are also some Reference issues [ | here].
7 The structure should be cleaned up. It does not need to be chronologically ordered but right now the flow of the article is somewhat choppy and should be reorganized to group like things together, for example start with his Ancestry, education and Early life then go into his military career, then retirement and later years, then Honors and awards (including the Medal of Honor and any others he might have received). Done 8 It might also be advisable to put it through a peer review also, its been my experience that if you do not put it through peer review first it will sit in the GA review and languish for at least 30 days before anyone looks at it. Done I have 3 there now that have been there since the beginning of June and I am getting ready to submit a couple more along with the 3 I have in peer review and the 2 I currently have pending FLC.-- Kumioko ( talk) 03:55, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
I added the large bio format above and a few more tasks completed. I leave 7 & 8 for Kumioko to review. see above. I also see duplicate references, in the past I used IBID. What is the better way of citing those duplicates? Jrcrin001 ( talk) 22:43, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
I put a question and request regarding the conflicting instructions of portal placement at Portal talk:Biography. Jrcrin001 ( talk) 22:48, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Louis Henry Carpenter | |
---|---|
[[File::File:LouisHCarpenter.jpg|frameless|upright=1]] | |
Place of burial | Trinity Episcopal Church New Cemetery,
Swedesboro,
Gloucester County, New Jersey |
Allegiance | United States of America |
Service/ |
Department of War -
Army & Union Army |
Years of service | 1861 - 1899 - 38 years of service. |
Rank | Brigadier General |
Unit |
6th U.S. Cavalry as a private 1861 - 1862 6th U.S. Cavalry as an officer 1862 - 1866 10th U.S. Cavalry 1866 - 1883 5th U.S. Cavalry 1883 - 1892 7th U.S. Cavalry 1892 - 1897 5th U.S. Cavalry 1897 - 1898 |
Commands held | 1st Division, 3rd Corps at Chickamauga in May 1898 3rd Division, 4th Corps at Tampa, Florida later in 1898 Military Governor of the providence of Puerto Principe, Cuba until in July 1899. |
Battles/wars |
American Civil War - 16 campaigns Indian Wars - 4 major campaigns Spanish–American War - Cuba |
Awards | Medal of Honor |
Relations | James Edward Carpenter, brother |
Other work | writer and speaker 1899-1915 |
I placed the old info box here for comparison purposes. Apparently the little images are a no-no when working toward a GA status. But, I personaly think it enhances the info box. Jrcrin001 ( talk) 22:59, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
This article met GA staus via peer review and a lot of help. Thank you to those who contributed! Jrcrin001 ( talk) 15:53, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
Can this article meet the following five criteria which is much stricker than the B-class format?
A1. The article is consistently referenced with an appropriate citation style, and all claims are verifiable against reputable sources, accurately represent the relevant body of published knowledge, and are supported with specific evidence and external citations as appropriate.
A2. The article is comprehensive, factually accurate, neutral and focused on the main topic; it neglects no major facts or details, presents views fairly and without bias, and does not go into unnecessary detail.
A3. The article has an appropriate structure of hierarchical headings, including a concise lead section that summarizes the topic and prepares the reader for the detail in the subsequent sections, and a substantial but not overwhelming table of contents.
A4. The article is written in concise and articulate English; its prose is clear, is in line with style guidelines, and does not require substantial copy-editing to be fully MoS-compliant.
A5. The article contains supporting visual materials, such as images or diagrams with succinct captions, and other media, where appropriate.
See also the A-Class review & criteria FAQ.
Any help to achieve this "A-Class" would be very helpful. Constructive comments welcome! Jrcrin001 ( talk) 16:30, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
I expanded LHC's sections on his continued frontier service as requested in the A review. New refs given for these sections and some may need some tweaking. I had some problems with a bot reverting several revisions instead of one. Hopefully all of these revs were taken care of. Jrcrin001 ( talk) 20:42, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
A-Class review closed after 28 days and the results were "Fail." Jrcrin001 ( talk) 16:31, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Would it be appropiate to add categories similar to the following? Or is this overkill?
Comments? Jrcrin001 ( talk) 20:47, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
This article is coming along, but still needs some work before we get it A/FA status. We'll get there though. I fixed some things on here and I will be back to do some more but in the mean time here are some things that I notice in the article that I think should be corrected.
Not done
I have a couple friends at the National Archives and at the library of congress doing some digging for me on ol' Louis here so if they come up with anything new I will get them to load it to the appropriate website and let you know were its at. Its not original research if you can find it in google.;-)-- Kumioko ( talk) 03:01, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
I removed this section in the article. While the Official Records cite a Carpenter there, the 6th US Cavalry Regiment was not present. It was the 6th Maine Cavalry Regiment. I found an error in a cite. Jrcrin001 ( talk) 20:24, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
I added wikibox for chain of command reference for engagements and battles the the 6th & Carpenter took part of. I also added 6th US Cav battles & engagements for June and July 1863 to show how involved Carpenter was in the campaign. I am still waiting for more info to come in to fill in details of other battles and a few dates needed. Jrcrin001 ( talk) 01:43, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
I added new information that I had been waiting on for some time. I added some more pictures which may be one too many. Big updates on ranks, assignments and the related dates. The information on the 5th United States Colored Cavalry (USCC) is newly added. No doubt I have mis-spelling or grammer errors despite my efforts!
I am not sure the current format of Image verses File for pictures? Is there a difference? As always, any help appreciated. This is about as complete as I can get this article.
Jrcrin001 ( talk) 08:35, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
As per the request on my talk page, here is a quick review of the article. I'd suggest putting it up for peer review before going to ACR or FA. Here are some suggestions, although I haven't had time to thoroughly go through the article.
Overall you've put in a lot of a work, which I think is great, however, I would advise caution in taking it to FA at this stage. A peer review might help iron out some issues that might arise there. — AustralianRupert ( talk) 09:51, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
In the listing of Carpenter's promotions and their insignia (ranks), I see what looks like the modern versions (images). However, with at least one of the insignia, Second Lieutenant, there was no such insignia until the 1900s. (I have not looked at the others.) Accordingly, I recommend either editing to provide original insignia or a notation that these are the modern versions.-- S. Rich ( talk) 15:56, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
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