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  • Note to self about my preferred text for various genera: Alaska cedar, juniper, larch, spruce, pine, Douglas fir, thuja cedar, hemlock. - Dank ( push to talk) 14:31, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • I'll be saying this at WP:FLC as well: I concede that Canada doesn't have a monopoly on forest inventories ... so if someone wants to propose and defend alternative inventories, I have no problem with that. I'd prefer to keep the current page title, but as a fall-back position, if necessary, the page could have a title that focuses only on Canada's national forest inventory of native trees. - Dank ( push to talk) 19:16, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Most of the images were first copied by User:Johnboddie from Commons to his sandbox. - Dank ( push to talk) 03:51, 14 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • The public domain license for the USDA Plants Database is at https://plants.usda.gov/assets/docs/PLANTS_Help_Document_2022.pdf. Reproduction guidelines for the Canadian tree inventory are available at https://nfi.nfis.org/en/notices; the tree species list is currently available at https://nfi.nfis.org/en/general. - Dank ( push to talk) 03:18, 11 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • In the "uses" paragraph of the lead section, also see the linked articles for attribution. - Dank ( push to talk) 14:40, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Alphanumeric symbols in the USDA Plants Database: CANO9 JUSC2 PIBA2 PIFL2 PIMO3 TABR2 THOC2. - Dank ( push to talk) 21:59, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Pinus albicaulis is the only threatened species in this list (and I'd rather not mention that because that classification doesn't seem well-supported; this page lists it as just a candidate to be added to a threatened list). - Dank ( push to talk) 01:01, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • There are two things that people may ask for at WP:FLC that I'm going to resist (strongly): descriptions and pests, which the sources call "damaging agents". Each article for these trees has a description section that's almost always named "Description" and almost always the first section in the article; see for instance Picea sitchensis#Description. Clearly, that's not something that could be successfully and accurately summarized to fit into the space allotted here. There's so much to say about "damaging agents" that I'm going to do a separate list for that, focused to some extent on the agents rather than the trees. - Dank ( push to talk) 16:07, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Image licenses: 70 labeled as own work (including the 3 from Laval University), 38 as Flickrbot, 16 as US government public domain, and one as iNaturalistbot. - Dank ( push to talk) 23:56, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Formatting suggesting

Put the vernacular name of the genus in brackets under the genus name, rather than as text in an additional row. Lavateraguy ( talk) 10:39, 23 January 2024 (UTC) reply

() or []? - Dank ( push to talk) 14:36, 23 January 2024 (UTC) reply
You've used () for species vernacular names. I'd be consistent and use the same for genus vernacular names. Lavateraguy ( talk) 11:26, 24 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Sure. - Dank ( push to talk) 21:52, 24 January 2024 (UTC) reply

Growth requirements

This is the raw data (public domain, as always) on growth requirements from the the USDA Plants database, copied yesterday. I'm listing this because it's possible people will want to organize the data in some different way in the future. - Dank ( push to talk) 13:32, 18 March 2024 (UTC) reply

coar fine medi anae CaCO3 cold drou fert fire fros hedg mois pH pH plan plan prec prec root sali shad temp
abam Yes Yes Yes None Low Yes Low Low None 90 None Medium 6.0 3.3 700 300 260 38 36 None Tolerant -28
abba Yes Yes Yes None Low Yes Low Medium Low 80 Low Medium 6.0 4.0 1200 300 60 13 20 None Tolerant -43
abgr Yes No Yes Low Low Yes Medium Medium High 60 Low Medium 7.5 4.5 1200 300 100 11 20 None Tolerant -33
abla Yes No Yes None Low Yes Low Medium Low 120 Low Medium 6.5 4.0 1200 300 150 20 40 None Tolerant -51
cano9 Yes Yes Yes Low None Yes Low Low Low 111 None Medium 7.0 5.5 700 300 100 45 24 None Tolerant -22
jusc2 Yes No Yes None High Yes High Low Low 120 Medium Low 8.5 5.0 1200 300 26 9 20 Low Intolerant -38
juvi Yes Yes Yes Low High Yes High Low Low 140 Medium Low 8.0 4.7 1200 300 68 15 20 Low Intermediate -43
lala Yes No Yes Low Low Yes Low Low None 73 None Medium 6.5 5.5 1200 430 55 7 12 Low Intolerant -79
laly Yes No Yes None None No High Low Low 90 None Low 5.6 3.9 1200 430 95 26 36 None Intolerant -58
laoc Yes No Yes None Low Yes Low Low Low 60 None Low 7.0 6.0 1200 430 50 13 20 None Intolerant -43
pien No Yes Yes None High No Low Low Low 30 Low Medium 8.0 6.0 700 300 160 21 20 None Tolerant -50
pigl Yes Yes Yes None Low Yes High High Low 60 Low Medium 8.2 4.0 700 300 50 7 30 Medium Intermediate -65
pima Yes Yes Yes Low Low Yes Low Medium None 60 Low High 6.5 4.7 700 300 60 5 16 None Tolerant -79
piru Yes Yes Yes Low Low No Medium Medium None 90 None Medium 5.8 4.0 700 300 52 28 13 None Tolerant -47
pisi Yes No Yes Low Medium No Low High None 111 None Medium 5.7 3.9 700 300 225 22 30 None Tolerant -33
piba2 Yes Yes Yes None Low Yes Low Low None 50 None Low 8.2 6.0 1200 430 35 15 20 Low Intolerant -53
pico Yes Yes Yes Low High Yes Low Medium Low 100 Medium Medium 7.5 6.2 700 430 25 18 20 None Intolerant -70
pipo Yes No Yes None Low Yes High Low High 150 Low Medium 9.0 5.0 1200 430 25 15 20 Medium Intolerant -36
pire Yes No Yes None None Yes Low Low Low 80 None Low 6.0 4.5 1200 430 60 15 40 None Intolerant -43
piri Yes No Yes Low Low Yes Medium Low Low 112 None Low 5.1 3.5 1200 430 56 37 20 None Intolerant -43
pial Yes No Yes None Low Yes High Low None 90 None Medium 8.0 4.8 430 300 72 18 16 None Intermediate -58
pifl2 No No Yes None Medium Yes High Low Low 90 None Low 6.5 5.7 1200 430 70 20 20 None Intolerant -43
pimo3 Yes No Yes None Medium Yes Low Medium Low 120 Medium Medium 7.0 5.5 1200 430 30 15 40 None Intermediate -33
pist No No Yes None None Yes None Low None 90 None Medium 6.5 4.0 1200 430 80 20 40 Low Intermediate -33
psme Yes No Yes Low Low Yes Low Medium Low 130 Low Medium 7.5 5.0 1200 300 100 18 26 Low Intermediate -33
tabr2 No No Yes None Low Yes Medium High Low 140 High Low 7.5 6.2 700 300 60 24 36 None Tolerant -18
thoc2 Yes Yes Yes Medium High Yes Low Medium Low 100 High Medium 7.0 5.2 1200 300 55 35 30 Medium Intermediate -33
thpl No No Yes None Medium Yes Low Medium Low 180 Low Medium 7.1 5.1 1200 300 120 30 30 None Tolerant -33
tsca Yes No Yes None None Yes Low Medium Medium 80 High Medium 5.7 4.2 1200 300 55 32 28 None Tolerant -33
tshe No No Yes None None Yes Low Medium Low 150 Low Medium 6.0 4.5 1200 300 150 38 36 None Tolerant -23
tsme Yes No No None Low Yes Low Medium Low 160 Low High 7.3 4.5 1200 300 140 42 40 None Tolerant -18
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Notes

  • Note to self about my preferred text for various genera: Alaska cedar, juniper, larch, spruce, pine, Douglas fir, thuja cedar, hemlock. - Dank ( push to talk) 14:31, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • I'll be saying this at WP:FLC as well: I concede that Canada doesn't have a monopoly on forest inventories ... so if someone wants to propose and defend alternative inventories, I have no problem with that. I'd prefer to keep the current page title, but as a fall-back position, if necessary, the page could have a title that focuses only on Canada's national forest inventory of native trees. - Dank ( push to talk) 19:16, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Most of the images were first copied by User:Johnboddie from Commons to his sandbox. - Dank ( push to talk) 03:51, 14 December 2023 (UTC) reply
  • The public domain license for the USDA Plants Database is at https://plants.usda.gov/assets/docs/PLANTS_Help_Document_2022.pdf. Reproduction guidelines for the Canadian tree inventory are available at https://nfi.nfis.org/en/notices; the tree species list is currently available at https://nfi.nfis.org/en/general. - Dank ( push to talk) 03:18, 11 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • In the "uses" paragraph of the lead section, also see the linked articles for attribution. - Dank ( push to talk) 14:40, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Alphanumeric symbols in the USDA Plants Database: CANO9 JUSC2 PIBA2 PIFL2 PIMO3 TABR2 THOC2. - Dank ( push to talk) 21:59, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Pinus albicaulis is the only threatened species in this list (and I'd rather not mention that because that classification doesn't seem well-supported; this page lists it as just a candidate to be added to a threatened list). - Dank ( push to talk) 01:01, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • There are two things that people may ask for at WP:FLC that I'm going to resist (strongly): descriptions and pests, which the sources call "damaging agents". Each article for these trees has a description section that's almost always named "Description" and almost always the first section in the article; see for instance Picea sitchensis#Description. Clearly, that's not something that could be successfully and accurately summarized to fit into the space allotted here. There's so much to say about "damaging agents" that I'm going to do a separate list for that, focused to some extent on the agents rather than the trees. - Dank ( push to talk) 16:07, 22 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Image licenses: 70 labeled as own work (including the 3 from Laval University), 38 as Flickrbot, 16 as US government public domain, and one as iNaturalistbot. - Dank ( push to talk) 23:56, 24 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Formatting suggesting

Put the vernacular name of the genus in brackets under the genus name, rather than as text in an additional row. Lavateraguy ( talk) 10:39, 23 January 2024 (UTC) reply

() or []? - Dank ( push to talk) 14:36, 23 January 2024 (UTC) reply
You've used () for species vernacular names. I'd be consistent and use the same for genus vernacular names. Lavateraguy ( talk) 11:26, 24 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Sure. - Dank ( push to talk) 21:52, 24 January 2024 (UTC) reply

Growth requirements

This is the raw data (public domain, as always) on growth requirements from the the USDA Plants database, copied yesterday. I'm listing this because it's possible people will want to organize the data in some different way in the future. - Dank ( push to talk) 13:32, 18 March 2024 (UTC) reply

coar fine medi anae CaCO3 cold drou fert fire fros hedg mois pH pH plan plan prec prec root sali shad temp
abam Yes Yes Yes None Low Yes Low Low None 90 None Medium 6.0 3.3 700 300 260 38 36 None Tolerant -28
abba Yes Yes Yes None Low Yes Low Medium Low 80 Low Medium 6.0 4.0 1200 300 60 13 20 None Tolerant -43
abgr Yes No Yes Low Low Yes Medium Medium High 60 Low Medium 7.5 4.5 1200 300 100 11 20 None Tolerant -33
abla Yes No Yes None Low Yes Low Medium Low 120 Low Medium 6.5 4.0 1200 300 150 20 40 None Tolerant -51
cano9 Yes Yes Yes Low None Yes Low Low Low 111 None Medium 7.0 5.5 700 300 100 45 24 None Tolerant -22
jusc2 Yes No Yes None High Yes High Low Low 120 Medium Low 8.5 5.0 1200 300 26 9 20 Low Intolerant -38
juvi Yes Yes Yes Low High Yes High Low Low 140 Medium Low 8.0 4.7 1200 300 68 15 20 Low Intermediate -43
lala Yes No Yes Low Low Yes Low Low None 73 None Medium 6.5 5.5 1200 430 55 7 12 Low Intolerant -79
laly Yes No Yes None None No High Low Low 90 None Low 5.6 3.9 1200 430 95 26 36 None Intolerant -58
laoc Yes No Yes None Low Yes Low Low Low 60 None Low 7.0 6.0 1200 430 50 13 20 None Intolerant -43
pien No Yes Yes None High No Low Low Low 30 Low Medium 8.0 6.0 700 300 160 21 20 None Tolerant -50
pigl Yes Yes Yes None Low Yes High High Low 60 Low Medium 8.2 4.0 700 300 50 7 30 Medium Intermediate -65
pima Yes Yes Yes Low Low Yes Low Medium None 60 Low High 6.5 4.7 700 300 60 5 16 None Tolerant -79
piru Yes Yes Yes Low Low No Medium Medium None 90 None Medium 5.8 4.0 700 300 52 28 13 None Tolerant -47
pisi Yes No Yes Low Medium No Low High None 111 None Medium 5.7 3.9 700 300 225 22 30 None Tolerant -33
piba2 Yes Yes Yes None Low Yes Low Low None 50 None Low 8.2 6.0 1200 430 35 15 20 Low Intolerant -53
pico Yes Yes Yes Low High Yes Low Medium Low 100 Medium Medium 7.5 6.2 700 430 25 18 20 None Intolerant -70
pipo Yes No Yes None Low Yes High Low High 150 Low Medium 9.0 5.0 1200 430 25 15 20 Medium Intolerant -36
pire Yes No Yes None None Yes Low Low Low 80 None Low 6.0 4.5 1200 430 60 15 40 None Intolerant -43
piri Yes No Yes Low Low Yes Medium Low Low 112 None Low 5.1 3.5 1200 430 56 37 20 None Intolerant -43
pial Yes No Yes None Low Yes High Low None 90 None Medium 8.0 4.8 430 300 72 18 16 None Intermediate -58
pifl2 No No Yes None Medium Yes High Low Low 90 None Low 6.5 5.7 1200 430 70 20 20 None Intolerant -43
pimo3 Yes No Yes None Medium Yes Low Medium Low 120 Medium Medium 7.0 5.5 1200 430 30 15 40 None Intermediate -33
pist No No Yes None None Yes None Low None 90 None Medium 6.5 4.0 1200 430 80 20 40 Low Intermediate -33
psme Yes No Yes Low Low Yes Low Medium Low 130 Low Medium 7.5 5.0 1200 300 100 18 26 Low Intermediate -33
tabr2 No No Yes None Low Yes Medium High Low 140 High Low 7.5 6.2 700 300 60 24 36 None Tolerant -18
thoc2 Yes Yes Yes Medium High Yes Low Medium Low 100 High Medium 7.0 5.2 1200 300 55 35 30 Medium Intermediate -33
thpl No No Yes None Medium Yes Low Medium Low 180 Low Medium 7.1 5.1 1200 300 120 30 30 None Tolerant -33
tsca Yes No Yes None None Yes Low Medium Medium 80 High Medium 5.7 4.2 1200 300 55 32 28 None Tolerant -33
tshe No No Yes None None Yes Low Medium Low 150 Low Medium 6.0 4.5 1200 300 150 38 36 None Tolerant -23
tsme Yes No No None Low Yes Low Medium Low 160 Low High 7.3 4.5 1200 300 140 42 40 None Tolerant -18
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