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Merge

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I propose to merge Ambika (Mahabharata) to this article due to lack of enough content. -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo ( talk · contribs · count) 16:59, 6 November 2017 (UTC) reply

gtbBold text — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.141.91.65 ( talk) 15:00, 23 July 2018 (UTC) reply

Subhadra

Subhadra should also be merged into this article, since there isn't enough sourced content to qualify separate articles. Capankajsmilyo( Talk | Infobox assistance) 03:00, 12 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Rohini Devi

Rohini Devi should also be merged into this article, since there isn't enough sourced content to qualify separate articles. Capankajsmilyo( Talk | Infobox assistance) 03:11, 12 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Chitrāngada

Chitrāngada should also be merged into this article, since there isn't enough sourced content to qualify separate articles. Capankajsmilyo( Talk | Infobox assistance) 03:11, 12 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Vichitravirya

Vichitravirya should also be merged into this article, since there isn't enough sourced content to qualify separate articles. Capankajsmilyo( Talk | Infobox assistance) 03:12, 12 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Balarama was the seventh child of Devaki and Vasudeva but was not born to Devaki. When Rohini, one of the other wives of Vasudeva comes to meet them in prison, she requests for the foetus of the seventh child to be transferred to her womb. By this the seventh child Balrama is born to Rohini instead of Devaki. The goddess Mahamaya born to Nandrai is switched in place of Lord Krishna, the eigth child when he is secretly brought to Gokul by his father as soon as he is born. The words uttered by the Goddess(Maya) are, I am not the one you want to kill. The Eigth child born is a son and is safe in another place.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.225.106.89 ( talkcontribs)

Ugrasena

Ugrasena should also be merged into this article, since there isn't enough sourced content to qualify separate articles. Capankajsmilyo( Talk | Infobox assistance) 18:24, 17 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Purochana

Purochana should also be merged into this article, since there isn't enough sourced content to qualify separate articles. Capankajsmilyo( Talk | Infobox assistance) 09:41, 20 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Dhrishtadyumna

Dhrishtadyumna should also be merged into this article, since there isn't enough sourced content to qualify separate articles. Capankajsmilyo( Talk | Infobox assistance) 06:58, 22 April 2020 (UTC) reply

  • No! Subhadra should not be merged. Subhadra is not only a character but also a deity. All informations can't be add in this article. Also she have two different stories of her abduction. Ratan375 ( talk) 04:41, 20 June 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose, Subhadra and Dhrishtadyumna shouldn't be merged. But I support merging Chitrangada(Satyavati's son) 245CMR ( talk) 07:12, 13 July 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Please don't merge Dhrishtadyumna and Subhadra. Their legends are long. It won't be good to merge as their informations would be limited. But I don't have any problem in merging Chitrangad. 245CMR ( talk) 03:59, 22 July 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose for Rohini Devi, mother of major gods and she was played a prominent role in the life of Lord Krishna, and Subhadra, who is worshipped as a deity in India. So I oppose to merge for them. I'm from Myanmar but I have full knowledge in Indian Mythology. Thanks Cape Diamond MM ( talk) 11:40, 25 July 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose I oppose all suggested mergers, and strongly so for Subhadra, Dhristadyuma, Urgasena and Rohini Devi. The remainder may stay as Mahabharata stubs. They are useful references. Whiteguru ( talk) 00:24, 26 July 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Oppse I strongly oppose. Subhadra is an important figure in Indian mythology. Sursen and Rohini devi are not only Mahabharat characters. Gyanchand2020 ( talk) 09:57, 3 August 2020 (UTC) reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Merger Proposal : Adhiratha, Radha (Mahabharata) and other characters

I propose to merge the articles " Adhiratha", " Radha (Mahabharata)", " Vijaya (Mahabharat)" and " Niramitra" because these articles are stubs with little content and ref. 245CMR ( talk) 12:31, 14 August 2020 (UTC) reply

Agree and it seems that will never be completed. Heba Aisha ( talk) 14:30, 9 October 2020 (UTC) reply
 Done Onel5969 TT me 16:09, 12 February 2021 (UTC) reply

List

By which factor should we list the characters.

  • Alphabetical order
  • Prominence in the epic (Main, Supporting, Minor)
  • Groups, teams, etc. (The Pandavas side, The Kaurava side, Devas, Asuras, other characters, etc.) .💠245CMR💠. 👥 📜 13:52, 18 December 2020 (UTC) reply

I initially supported 3rd one (groups, teams, etc.), but as there are so many characters, the Alphabetical one is the best. .💠245CMR💠. 👥 📜 14:02, 18 December 2020 (UTC) reply

Requested move 18 December 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Page moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Jerm ( talk) 20:05, 25 December 2020 (UTC) reply


Characters in the MahabharataList of characters in the Mahabharata – This article is clearly a list per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lists Vpab15 ( talk) 16:35, 18 December 2020 (UTC) reply

@ Vpab15: Then please propose move requests for Characters of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, etc. .💠245CMR💠. 👥 📜 17:50, 18 December 2020 (UTC) reply

I think that would also be a candidate to be moved, since it looks like a list. Feel free to create move request. Vpab15 ( talk) 18:10, 18 December 2020 (UTC) reply

@ Vpab15: Will it be ok if I transform this article from just a list to full content one. I will add Historicity, Origin, Assessment, etc. If yes, then please provide atleast a month. .💠245CMR💠. 👥 📜 03:31, 19 December 2020 (UTC) reply

Lead
Origin and textual sources
Historicity
List
A
List
B
List
C
List
D......
Assessment
Rise to godhood
References

.💠245CMR💠. 👥 📜 03:33, 19 December 2020 (UTC) reply

I think a brief summary as it is now is enough. A lot of the characters already have their own articles. In any case let's see what other editors think. Vpab15 ( talk) 14:07, 19 December 2020 (UTC) reply

  • Support, the article is clearly a list. JIP | Talk 20:15, 23 December 2020 (UTC) reply

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

how Shveta was killed?

Shveta was killed by Vhisma, not by Shalya. My reference is, Basu Rajshekhor, Mohabharata page 386. Mamunurrashidkazi ( talk) 04:52, 10 October 2021 (UTC) reply

Semi-protected edit request on 25 October 2021

I want to contribute. This is a completely biased 122.161.53.178 ( talk) 12:47, 25 October 2021 (UTC) reply

 Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone will add them for you, or if you have an account, you can wait until you are autoconfirmed and edit the page yourself. ‑‑ ElHef ( Meep?) 13:23, 25 October 2021 (UTC) reply

Semi-protected edit request on 25 October 2021 (2)

Bad things are written about Karna.Please write positive things about him. 122.161.53.178 ( talk) 12:50, 25 October 2021 (UTC) reply

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ‑‑ ElHef ( Meep?) 13:24, 25 October 2021 (UTC) reply

Semi-protected edit request on 31 October 2021

Please correct the Karna part...defamatory words are used Goldmines24 ( talk) 17:54, 31 October 2021 (UTC) reply

 Not done: Block evasion — DaxServer ( talk) 17:58, 31 October 2021 (UTC) reply
 Done Despite it, I've copied content from Karna attributed in edit summary — DaxServer ( talk) 18:07, 31 October 2021 (UTC) reply

Semi-protected edit request on 18 November 2021 (3)

Please change Arjuna's article to "He was the main rival of Karna(the central hero of Mahabharata)". Goldilocks87 ( talk) 11:50, 18 November 2021 (UTC) reply

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Tol ( talk | contribs) @ 19:54, 18 November 2021 (UTC) reply

Semi-protected edit request on 12 December 2021

I am can edit this page>

Thaks

 Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone will add them for you, or if you have an account, you can wait until you are autoconfirmed and edit the page yourself.  Ganbaruby! ( talk) 02:34, 12 December 2021 (UTC) reply

Disputed

A wide-range of disruption as described at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#LTA sockpuppetry, puffery of Karna of Mahabharata happened at this page. No idea how much of the content is effected. Unfortunately the article is poorly sourced and thus a verification is difficult. — DaxServer ( talk · contribs) 10:48, 30 January 2022 (UTC) reply

You have given me a nice set of articles to merge/redirect - thanks, TrangaBellam ( talk) 15:16, 30 January 2022 (UTC) reply
I'm looking forward to :) — DaxServer ( talk · contribs) 15:44, 30 January 2022 (UTC) reply

@ DaxServer In the Arjuna's section, can you please remove that line "Arjuna is considered the chief protagonist, the real hero of Mahabharata". It hurts the neutral point of view WP:NPOV and the neutrality of article looks disputed and somewhere looks biased. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aptknowledge ( talkcontribs) 08:46, 3 February 2022 (UTC) reply

 Done And may I ask how you stumbled upon this particle sentence, this particular talk page section and knew the WP:NPOV policy in good detail for a first edit? You certainly do not exhibit like a first time editor here. — DaxServer ( talk · contribs) 08:55, 3 February 2022 (UTC) reply

"Kratha (Mahabharata)" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Kratha (Mahabharata) and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 February 19#Kratha (Mahabharata) until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. signed, Rosguill talk 17:17, 19 February 2022 (UTC) reply

Excerpts

Many characters in the list have their own articles. Would it be useful to use {{ Excerpt}} and transclude the leads of those articles, so that we don't have to worry about citing the content here? — DaxServer ( t · c) 16:32, 20 February 2022 (UTC) reply

Semi-protected edit request on 22 February 2022

Please also write about Barbarik the owner of the the three arrows 2405:205:120B:10F8:0:0:962:90AC ( talk) 18:42, 22 February 2022 (UTC) reply

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish ( talk) 18:53, 22 February 2022 (UTC) reply

Semi-protected edit request on 23 November 2022

I am here for improved this page. Karasingam 2.0 ( talk) 07:12, 23 November 2022 (UTC) reply

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis ( talk) 07:20, 23 November 2022 (UTC) reply

Semi-protected edit request on 29 December 2022

Ashwathama to be included in some most important characters 2405:201:5009:4899:6127:CA91:E670:2CEF ( talk) 18:25, 29 December 2022 (UTC) reply

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Lemonaka ( talk) 19:49, 31 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Semi-protected edit request on 1 January 2023

Ashwathama to be included along with Bhishma,Karna as some of the most important characters. 2405:201:5009:4899:6127:CA91:E670:2CEF ( talk) 08:18, 1 January 2023 (UTC) reply

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — DaxServer ( t · m · c) 12:00, 1 January 2023 (UTC) reply
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Merge

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


I propose to merge Ambika (Mahabharata) to this article due to lack of enough content. -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo ( talk · contribs · count) 16:59, 6 November 2017 (UTC) reply

gtbBold text — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.141.91.65 ( talk) 15:00, 23 July 2018 (UTC) reply

Subhadra

Subhadra should also be merged into this article, since there isn't enough sourced content to qualify separate articles. Capankajsmilyo( Talk | Infobox assistance) 03:00, 12 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Rohini Devi

Rohini Devi should also be merged into this article, since there isn't enough sourced content to qualify separate articles. Capankajsmilyo( Talk | Infobox assistance) 03:11, 12 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Chitrāngada

Chitrāngada should also be merged into this article, since there isn't enough sourced content to qualify separate articles. Capankajsmilyo( Talk | Infobox assistance) 03:11, 12 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Vichitravirya

Vichitravirya should also be merged into this article, since there isn't enough sourced content to qualify separate articles. Capankajsmilyo( Talk | Infobox assistance) 03:12, 12 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Balarama was the seventh child of Devaki and Vasudeva but was not born to Devaki. When Rohini, one of the other wives of Vasudeva comes to meet them in prison, she requests for the foetus of the seventh child to be transferred to her womb. By this the seventh child Balrama is born to Rohini instead of Devaki. The goddess Mahamaya born to Nandrai is switched in place of Lord Krishna, the eigth child when he is secretly brought to Gokul by his father as soon as he is born. The words uttered by the Goddess(Maya) are, I am not the one you want to kill. The Eigth child born is a son and is safe in another place.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.225.106.89 ( talkcontribs)

Ugrasena

Ugrasena should also be merged into this article, since there isn't enough sourced content to qualify separate articles. Capankajsmilyo( Talk | Infobox assistance) 18:24, 17 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Purochana

Purochana should also be merged into this article, since there isn't enough sourced content to qualify separate articles. Capankajsmilyo( Talk | Infobox assistance) 09:41, 20 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Dhrishtadyumna

Dhrishtadyumna should also be merged into this article, since there isn't enough sourced content to qualify separate articles. Capankajsmilyo( Talk | Infobox assistance) 06:58, 22 April 2020 (UTC) reply

  • No! Subhadra should not be merged. Subhadra is not only a character but also a deity. All informations can't be add in this article. Also she have two different stories of her abduction. Ratan375 ( talk) 04:41, 20 June 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose, Subhadra and Dhrishtadyumna shouldn't be merged. But I support merging Chitrangada(Satyavati's son) 245CMR ( talk) 07:12, 13 July 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Please don't merge Dhrishtadyumna and Subhadra. Their legends are long. It won't be good to merge as their informations would be limited. But I don't have any problem in merging Chitrangad. 245CMR ( talk) 03:59, 22 July 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose for Rohini Devi, mother of major gods and she was played a prominent role in the life of Lord Krishna, and Subhadra, who is worshipped as a deity in India. So I oppose to merge for them. I'm from Myanmar but I have full knowledge in Indian Mythology. Thanks Cape Diamond MM ( talk) 11:40, 25 July 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose I oppose all suggested mergers, and strongly so for Subhadra, Dhristadyuma, Urgasena and Rohini Devi. The remainder may stay as Mahabharata stubs. They are useful references. Whiteguru ( talk) 00:24, 26 July 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Oppse I strongly oppose. Subhadra is an important figure in Indian mythology. Sursen and Rohini devi are not only Mahabharat characters. Gyanchand2020 ( talk) 09:57, 3 August 2020 (UTC) reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Merger Proposal : Adhiratha, Radha (Mahabharata) and other characters

I propose to merge the articles " Adhiratha", " Radha (Mahabharata)", " Vijaya (Mahabharat)" and " Niramitra" because these articles are stubs with little content and ref. 245CMR ( talk) 12:31, 14 August 2020 (UTC) reply

Agree and it seems that will never be completed. Heba Aisha ( talk) 14:30, 9 October 2020 (UTC) reply
 Done Onel5969 TT me 16:09, 12 February 2021 (UTC) reply

List

By which factor should we list the characters.

  • Alphabetical order
  • Prominence in the epic (Main, Supporting, Minor)
  • Groups, teams, etc. (The Pandavas side, The Kaurava side, Devas, Asuras, other characters, etc.) .💠245CMR💠. 👥 📜 13:52, 18 December 2020 (UTC) reply

I initially supported 3rd one (groups, teams, etc.), but as there are so many characters, the Alphabetical one is the best. .💠245CMR💠. 👥 📜 14:02, 18 December 2020 (UTC) reply

Requested move 18 December 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Page moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Jerm ( talk) 20:05, 25 December 2020 (UTC) reply


Characters in the MahabharataList of characters in the Mahabharata – This article is clearly a list per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lists Vpab15 ( talk) 16:35, 18 December 2020 (UTC) reply

@ Vpab15: Then please propose move requests for Characters of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, etc. .💠245CMR💠. 👥 📜 17:50, 18 December 2020 (UTC) reply

I think that would also be a candidate to be moved, since it looks like a list. Feel free to create move request. Vpab15 ( talk) 18:10, 18 December 2020 (UTC) reply

@ Vpab15: Will it be ok if I transform this article from just a list to full content one. I will add Historicity, Origin, Assessment, etc. If yes, then please provide atleast a month. .💠245CMR💠. 👥 📜 03:31, 19 December 2020 (UTC) reply

Lead
Origin and textual sources
Historicity
List
A
List
B
List
C
List
D......
Assessment
Rise to godhood
References

.💠245CMR💠. 👥 📜 03:33, 19 December 2020 (UTC) reply

I think a brief summary as it is now is enough. A lot of the characters already have their own articles. In any case let's see what other editors think. Vpab15 ( talk) 14:07, 19 December 2020 (UTC) reply

  • Support, the article is clearly a list. JIP | Talk 20:15, 23 December 2020 (UTC) reply

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

how Shveta was killed?

Shveta was killed by Vhisma, not by Shalya. My reference is, Basu Rajshekhor, Mohabharata page 386. Mamunurrashidkazi ( talk) 04:52, 10 October 2021 (UTC) reply

Semi-protected edit request on 25 October 2021

I want to contribute. This is a completely biased 122.161.53.178 ( talk) 12:47, 25 October 2021 (UTC) reply

 Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone will add them for you, or if you have an account, you can wait until you are autoconfirmed and edit the page yourself. ‑‑ ElHef ( Meep?) 13:23, 25 October 2021 (UTC) reply

Semi-protected edit request on 25 October 2021 (2)

Bad things are written about Karna.Please write positive things about him. 122.161.53.178 ( talk) 12:50, 25 October 2021 (UTC) reply

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ‑‑ ElHef ( Meep?) 13:24, 25 October 2021 (UTC) reply

Semi-protected edit request on 31 October 2021

Please correct the Karna part...defamatory words are used Goldmines24 ( talk) 17:54, 31 October 2021 (UTC) reply

 Not done: Block evasion — DaxServer ( talk) 17:58, 31 October 2021 (UTC) reply
 Done Despite it, I've copied content from Karna attributed in edit summary — DaxServer ( talk) 18:07, 31 October 2021 (UTC) reply

Semi-protected edit request on 18 November 2021 (3)

Please change Arjuna's article to "He was the main rival of Karna(the central hero of Mahabharata)". Goldilocks87 ( talk) 11:50, 18 November 2021 (UTC) reply

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Tol ( talk | contribs) @ 19:54, 18 November 2021 (UTC) reply

Semi-protected edit request on 12 December 2021

I am can edit this page>

Thaks

 Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone will add them for you, or if you have an account, you can wait until you are autoconfirmed and edit the page yourself.  Ganbaruby! ( talk) 02:34, 12 December 2021 (UTC) reply

Disputed

A wide-range of disruption as described at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#LTA sockpuppetry, puffery of Karna of Mahabharata happened at this page. No idea how much of the content is effected. Unfortunately the article is poorly sourced and thus a verification is difficult. — DaxServer ( talk · contribs) 10:48, 30 January 2022 (UTC) reply

You have given me a nice set of articles to merge/redirect - thanks, TrangaBellam ( talk) 15:16, 30 January 2022 (UTC) reply
I'm looking forward to :) — DaxServer ( talk · contribs) 15:44, 30 January 2022 (UTC) reply

@ DaxServer In the Arjuna's section, can you please remove that line "Arjuna is considered the chief protagonist, the real hero of Mahabharata". It hurts the neutral point of view WP:NPOV and the neutrality of article looks disputed and somewhere looks biased. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aptknowledge ( talkcontribs) 08:46, 3 February 2022 (UTC) reply

 Done And may I ask how you stumbled upon this particle sentence, this particular talk page section and knew the WP:NPOV policy in good detail for a first edit? You certainly do not exhibit like a first time editor here. — DaxServer ( talk · contribs) 08:55, 3 February 2022 (UTC) reply

"Kratha (Mahabharata)" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Kratha (Mahabharata) and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 February 19#Kratha (Mahabharata) until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. signed, Rosguill talk 17:17, 19 February 2022 (UTC) reply

Excerpts

Many characters in the list have their own articles. Would it be useful to use {{ Excerpt}} and transclude the leads of those articles, so that we don't have to worry about citing the content here? — DaxServer ( t · c) 16:32, 20 February 2022 (UTC) reply

Semi-protected edit request on 22 February 2022

Please also write about Barbarik the owner of the the three arrows 2405:205:120B:10F8:0:0:962:90AC ( talk) 18:42, 22 February 2022 (UTC) reply

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish ( talk) 18:53, 22 February 2022 (UTC) reply

Semi-protected edit request on 23 November 2022

I am here for improved this page. Karasingam 2.0 ( talk) 07:12, 23 November 2022 (UTC) reply

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis ( talk) 07:20, 23 November 2022 (UTC) reply

Semi-protected edit request on 29 December 2022

Ashwathama to be included in some most important characters 2405:201:5009:4899:6127:CA91:E670:2CEF ( talk) 18:25, 29 December 2022 (UTC) reply

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Lemonaka ( talk) 19:49, 31 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Semi-protected edit request on 1 January 2023

Ashwathama to be included along with Bhishma,Karna as some of the most important characters. 2405:201:5009:4899:6127:CA91:E670:2CEF ( talk) 08:18, 1 January 2023 (UTC) reply

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — DaxServer ( t · m · c) 12:00, 1 January 2023 (UTC) reply

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