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A very well written page - a model to most of us! User:David Martland
Isn't it more of a famous painting than a famous photo? User:Aezram
Well written - a model to most of us? My God, don't tell Zoe, she helped get the writer banned because she didn't like how he did his pages! 64.228.30.74 04:37 10 Jun 2003 (UTC)
He's the same guy that User:Ortolan88 also said created a model page for his List of Famous Canadians. But, I read where he called someone a moron. Unacceptable, there is no one at Wikipedia who ever demonstrated that kind of intellect. Sure is a good thing you got rid of that abuser before he screwed things up and made more "model pages." 64.228.30.30 03:46 11 Jun 2003 (UTC)
The information for the painting is as follows:
1. Le Groupe des Six, 1922 by Jacques-Emile Blanche. In the center, pianist Marcelle Meyer; from bottom to top: Germaine Tailleferre, Darius Milhaud, Arthur Honegger, Jean Wiener; on the right: Georges Auric, Francis Poulenc, Jean Cocteau. Here Jean Wiener, pianist, replaces Louis Durey who left the group in 1921. (-- 65.25.248.41 26 Jan 2004 22:18)
The person in the painting who is supposedly Jean Wiener doesn't look at all like Wiener. But he DOES look like every picture of Louis Durey that I've ever seen. Have a look at google: http://images.google.fr/images?svnum=10&hl=fr&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=Louis+Durey&btnG=Rechercher
I talked to Tailleferre's Granddaughter and heir and she says that Tailleferre said that all Six were in there for the painting. So, that must be Durey....what would Wiener be doing there in the first place?
Durey did not leave the group in 1922 either. He was at every one of the anniversary concerts beginning with the tenth anniversary in 1930. Musikfabrik 17:19, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
Information describing Les Six is taken directly from the liner notes for Graham Johnson and Francois Le Roux's Hyperion CD: Songs by Louis Durey. Who, exactly, is plagiarizing whom? (-- 65.25.248.41 26 Jan 2004 22:18)
Regarding Le boeuf sur le toit: I thought the composition was named after the bar and not the other way around? Could somebody confirm this? -- Francis Schonken 10:36, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)
I've deleted "individual compositions not related to Les Six" by Satie, since this is the Les Six Page.
Concerning the Emile Blanche painting, I'm surprized that this is a public domaine image. The original painting is in the Museum of Rouen and Emile Blanche's work is still protected. Can anyone confirm the public domaine status of this image?
I've also added more information about the orgins of Les Six, most of which is taken from a book published by Marie-Thérèse Clostre-Collet about her father, which contains the entire text of the two articles written by Collet, the letters written by all the members of the Group (including Poulenc's famous Dedication to Collet on a copy of his "Bestiaire" which states "To the Man who came up with 'Les Six'". I'll be adding other information as I have time, as well as other information from sources relating to Germaine Tailleferre. Musikfabrik 17:09, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
I have recaptioned the painting, in accordance with the above, and my memory of photos (ahem) - Rothorpe 23:24, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
Apart from the two collaborative works, why is it that some other single-composer works are included, but the many other works written by the same composers throughout their careers are excluded? What's the criterion for this short list of works? -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 21:31, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved. Capitalization on the French site gives good enough reason to move. UtherSRG (talk) 13:55, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
Les six →
Les Six – This is the correct capitalization, in French
[3] (and also in English
[4]
[5]).
Softlavender (
talk) 02:42, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
The related Category:Les six has been nominated for deletion, merging, or renaming . You are encouraged to join the discussion on the Categories for discussion page. |
A quick glance suggests that most of the article is very good. Only the section "Selected music by individual members of Les Six" has not been updated for some years, and quite frankly it seems to be an arbitrary collection of works individual editors happen to like, whether they're representative of Les Six or not. Bear in mind that Poulenc for one insisted that 15 years after the group was named (in 1920) individual members were "pursuing our own paths" and were by then only united by "ties of affection". Works such as Poulenc's Cello Sonata and his Flute Sonata, composed respectively in the 1940s and 1950s, are far from representative of the group's aesthetics (as far as they can be identified). I am replacing these with more apt works, but no doubt some of the works representing other composers of the group should be reconsidered. Alfietucker ( talk) 09:29, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
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A very well written page - a model to most of us! User:David Martland
Isn't it more of a famous painting than a famous photo? User:Aezram
Well written - a model to most of us? My God, don't tell Zoe, she helped get the writer banned because she didn't like how he did his pages! 64.228.30.74 04:37 10 Jun 2003 (UTC)
He's the same guy that User:Ortolan88 also said created a model page for his List of Famous Canadians. But, I read where he called someone a moron. Unacceptable, there is no one at Wikipedia who ever demonstrated that kind of intellect. Sure is a good thing you got rid of that abuser before he screwed things up and made more "model pages." 64.228.30.30 03:46 11 Jun 2003 (UTC)
The information for the painting is as follows:
1. Le Groupe des Six, 1922 by Jacques-Emile Blanche. In the center, pianist Marcelle Meyer; from bottom to top: Germaine Tailleferre, Darius Milhaud, Arthur Honegger, Jean Wiener; on the right: Georges Auric, Francis Poulenc, Jean Cocteau. Here Jean Wiener, pianist, replaces Louis Durey who left the group in 1921. (-- 65.25.248.41 26 Jan 2004 22:18)
The person in the painting who is supposedly Jean Wiener doesn't look at all like Wiener. But he DOES look like every picture of Louis Durey that I've ever seen. Have a look at google: http://images.google.fr/images?svnum=10&hl=fr&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=Louis+Durey&btnG=Rechercher
I talked to Tailleferre's Granddaughter and heir and she says that Tailleferre said that all Six were in there for the painting. So, that must be Durey....what would Wiener be doing there in the first place?
Durey did not leave the group in 1922 either. He was at every one of the anniversary concerts beginning with the tenth anniversary in 1930. Musikfabrik 17:19, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
Information describing Les Six is taken directly from the liner notes for Graham Johnson and Francois Le Roux's Hyperion CD: Songs by Louis Durey. Who, exactly, is plagiarizing whom? (-- 65.25.248.41 26 Jan 2004 22:18)
Regarding Le boeuf sur le toit: I thought the composition was named after the bar and not the other way around? Could somebody confirm this? -- Francis Schonken 10:36, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)
I've deleted "individual compositions not related to Les Six" by Satie, since this is the Les Six Page.
Concerning the Emile Blanche painting, I'm surprized that this is a public domaine image. The original painting is in the Museum of Rouen and Emile Blanche's work is still protected. Can anyone confirm the public domaine status of this image?
I've also added more information about the orgins of Les Six, most of which is taken from a book published by Marie-Thérèse Clostre-Collet about her father, which contains the entire text of the two articles written by Collet, the letters written by all the members of the Group (including Poulenc's famous Dedication to Collet on a copy of his "Bestiaire" which states "To the Man who came up with 'Les Six'". I'll be adding other information as I have time, as well as other information from sources relating to Germaine Tailleferre. Musikfabrik 17:09, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
I have recaptioned the painting, in accordance with the above, and my memory of photos (ahem) - Rothorpe 23:24, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
Apart from the two collaborative works, why is it that some other single-composer works are included, but the many other works written by the same composers throughout their careers are excluded? What's the criterion for this short list of works? -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 21:31, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved. Capitalization on the French site gives good enough reason to move. UtherSRG (talk) 13:55, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
Les six →
Les Six – This is the correct capitalization, in French
[3] (and also in English
[4]
[5]).
Softlavender (
talk) 02:42, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
The related Category:Les six has been nominated for deletion, merging, or renaming . You are encouraged to join the discussion on the Categories for discussion page. |
A quick glance suggests that most of the article is very good. Only the section "Selected music by individual members of Les Six" has not been updated for some years, and quite frankly it seems to be an arbitrary collection of works individual editors happen to like, whether they're representative of Les Six or not. Bear in mind that Poulenc for one insisted that 15 years after the group was named (in 1920) individual members were "pursuing our own paths" and were by then only united by "ties of affection". Works such as Poulenc's Cello Sonata and his Flute Sonata, composed respectively in the 1940s and 1950s, are far from representative of the group's aesthetics (as far as they can be identified). I am replacing these with more apt works, but no doubt some of the works representing other composers of the group should be reconsidered. Alfietucker ( talk) 09:29, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
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