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Hi DeFacto. You have deleted the road accidents table (below, data from 2013) because you state that it is not the same data as used by Leemington (1969). You are obviously correct, but using your same argument, anybody could delete most photos and maps in this article because they are likewise not directly cited by the sources in the article. The table is meant only as an illustration of the topic discussed by the cited authors Leeming, by Watson (and by Kincaid and others). Please comment. 86.158.154.23 ( talk) 17:04, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
Country | L/R traffic |
Road deaths per 100.000 inhabitants per year [1] |
Road deaths per 100.000 vehicles [1] |
Road deaths per 1 billion vehicle km [2] [1] |
Deaths in most recent year (acc. to WHO data) [1] |
Year, Source (Main source: WHO 2015, [3] Data from 2013) |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Netherlands | R | 3.4 | 6 | 4.5 | 574 | 2013 |
Sweden | R | 2.8 | 4.7 | 3.5 | 272 | 2013 |
In right-hand traffic, the dominant (usually right) hand of the driver is on the gearstick instead of on the steering wheel. Conversely, in left-hand traffic the dominant (right) hand is on the steering wheel. The eyes are also affected differently: in one study, researchers concluded that left-hand traffic may be safer for elderly drivers, [4] since humans are more commonly right-eye dominant than left-eye dominant. [5] Comparing accident statistics between countries operating either LHT or RHT, Leeming concluded that LHT is superior. [6] However, Watson has critcised the small sample size and dismisses the notion. [7] The following table shows road death statistics in comparable pairs of European countries.
Country | L/R traffic |
Road deaths per 100.000 inhabitants per year [1] |
Road deaths per 100.000 vehicles [1] |
Road deaths per 1 billion vehicle km [2] [1] |
Deaths in most recent year (acc. to WHO data) [1] |
Year, Source (Main source: WHO 2015, [3] Data from 2013) |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Cyprus | L | 5.2 | 9.2 | n.a. | 59 | 2013 |
Greece | R | 9.1 | 12.6 | n.a. | 1013 | 2013 |
United Kingdom | L | 2.9 | 5.1 | 3.6 | 1827 | 2013 |
Germany | R | 4.3 | 6.8 | 4.9 | 3540 | 2013 |
References
data from 2013
Tables A2 & A10, data from 2013
watson
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).should be "later the parliament on the suggestion of the government ordered a conversion"
Zzalpha ( talk) 04:52, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
In the BVI, the large majority of cars are unmodified American imports and thus LHD, even though, as a British territory, the rule of the road is LHT. This is pretty disorienting when traveling there. It is pretty easy to source. Is this sort of thing common enough to include? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.160.77.115 ( talk) 22:25, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
According to the article, the Netherlands have RHT on their railroads. Is that really correct? The logo of the Dutch railways (shown here on the right) indicates traffic running on the left, and according to the Wikipedia article on the railways, "The two arrows in the logo represent the train's movement." -- Oz1cz ( talk) 17:44, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
Since I first read this article sometime before April 2012 I paid attention especially while travelling by train within the boundaries of Alsace-Lorraine, which according to the article had its railway lines use right-hand running, on one DB International and two TGV services. The first journey had a flyover where Phase One of LGV Est met the lignes classique with right-hand running between there and Strasbourg. I took my second trip in 2017 after Phase Two opened and I am sure the high-speed line used left-hand running throughout with a flyover where it meets the classic line which I think I have found on the current Google satellite view north of Vendemheim. As for LGV Rhin-Rhône I did not pay as much attention partly because I had never traveled that route before but I am sure the newer looking line used left-hand running throughout. I have found the Google satellite view of the junction at Petit-Croix but unlike at Vendemheim there does not appear to be a flyover though there appear to be points to allow eastbound trains to change sides but I cannot see how it works westbound unless the classic line uses left-hand running at that point. Tk420 ( talk) 21:39, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
Dear Wikipedia, In Pakistan there is a RHT instead of LHT, for Wikipedia's information. If i'm wrong correct me otherwise congrats me. Thanks Have a Good day. 58.27.217.8 ( talk) 09:38, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
I think you are confused between the difference between RHD (Right Hand Drive) and RHT (Right Hand Traffic). 10:49, 29 August 2019 (UTC)~~ Noel Ellis
This map needs updating. Its original creator seems no longer to be active in WP. I've moved it here from the article page for consideration. The following is inaccurate and/or inconsistent with the article:
-- Cornellier ( talk) 11:50, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
Gibraltar is a colony, not part of the UK 10:49, 29 August 2019 (UTC) Noel Ellis
Per WP:NOTMANUAL and WP:OFFTOPIC just reverted 90.202.194.206's "traffic rules and units of measurement for distance and speed for each country alongside driving side". I don't think any discussion is needed about whether the units of measurement are off-topic. And the traffic rules content is just unnecessary. Thoughts? -- Cornellier ( talk) 02:30, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
I note that someone has written a claim that Russia changed to driving on the right in 1917. This can be disproved by photos from the time, and contradicts the change in Finland in 1858. Kincaid has a reference that driving on the right was adopted 5 February 1752 by the decree of Empress Elisaveta Petrovna Also there is no evidence that Belgium drove on the left until 1898. That is just the date the drive on the right became the law. 10:49, 29 August 2019 (UTC)~ Noel Ellis
Per WP:FLAGCRUFT, User:DeFacto removed flags a year and a half ago and now they have been restored by User:Darranc. I think the flags actually interfere with reading the article since I don't know most of them and have to skip past to the actual name. I think this is a case of "just because you can, doesn't mean you should". If they don't directly add info about Left- and right-hand traffic, they shouldn't be there. Thoughts? -- Cornellier ( talk) 14:34, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
I have changed the nonsense reference from Reuters that the change in Samoa "was the first territory to change in 40 years". If we disregard the temporary change in the Falklands in 1982 when the Argentinians imposed RHT for two months until LHT was restored, then it is the first change (in a developed transport system) since Okinawa in 1978. Then we have the issue that technically Okinawa is not a "country" but part of Japan. the last change before that was South Yemen in 1977, which was a country at the time, although now it is now part of unified Yemen. the idea that Samoa was the first to change since Iceland in 1968 is an ignorant piece of racist nonsense, which only makes sense if you only count "white" or European countries. Which does not make sense as Samoa is not a European country! I have also tried to point out that the reference to East Timor changing to LHT in 1976 is nonsense. I think the origin of this is Kincaid who would have us believe that the Indonesians who invaded East Timor in December 1975 respected the local road rules until 17 July 1976 when Indonesia annexed East Timor as a province. There is no contemporary reference to Indonesia making such a change. Kincaid based his claim on the fact that East Timor changed to RHT in 1928 when Portugal changed. This is not disputed. What is of concern is that Kincaid ignores what happened during World War II when Timor was invaded, first by the Allies and then by the Japanese. 09:41, 5 July 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Noel Ellis ( talk • contribs)
It is nonsense because it is clearly wrong. It is racist because it ignores all the changes in non-European countries since 1968. 10:49, 29 August 2019 (UTC)~~ Noel Ellis
In the Europe-Italy section, i think there is some problem that require fix; this is what is actualy present:
The wrong is:
please excuse my bad english, i hope you can understand what i think, what i've tried to explain.
-- 5.170.47.117 ( talk) 07:36, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
Do any accident statistics exist for visitors from, say, an LHT country driving RHT, particularly in the case of people renting vehicles? Due to muscle memory, training, etc., I have heard of people nearly causing accidents due to either the reversed road rules (i.e. "left of way" rather than "right of way" in roundabouts, or shoulder-checking the wrong side) or reversed vehicle controls (someone used to a right-hand stickshift using a left-hand one). Related to this, are there jurisdictions that require some level of training in "reversed" driving before allowing someone from an opposite standard to rent a vehicle or obtain a licence? 70.73.90.119 ( talk) 15:53, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
While it is useful to note countries in which the majority of vehicles are configured for the opposite side of the road, grouping them under "Potential future shifts" is WP:OR. -- Cornellier ( talk) 11:56, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
This article could use some improvement:
-- Cornellier ( talk) 13:14, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
Propose removing the cleanup & too many links flags on the top of the article. -- Cornellier ( talk) 15:19, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
The colour of Afghanistan should be changed. Now according to the article, many roads were LHT. 103.246.39.1 ( talk) 05:24, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
The written history of North America suggests that RHT has always been the prevailing form in teh US, but the map of history labels the US as fomerly LHT. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:B041:5C00:24EF:B8BB:5AC7:4C9F ( talk) 11:37, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
The colour of Russia should be changed. This is because Sakhalin was a Japanese territory and then it became a part of Russia. 103.246.39.1 ( talk) 07:36, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
103.246.39.1 ( talk) 05:12, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
I inserted a statement in the notes, to clarify that some regions of Croatia drove on the left, while other drove on the right during the time of Austro-Hungarian rule. This is based on the Karl Baedeker publication "Austria, including Hungary, Transylvania, Dalmatia and Bosnia", 9th ed. 1900, at pp xiii-xiv: "In Styria, Upper and Lower Austria, Salzburg, Carniola, Croatia, and Hungary we keep to the left, and pass to the right in overtaking; in Carinthia, Tyrol, and the Austrian Littoral (Adriatic coast: Trieste, Gorizia and Gradisca, Istria and Dalmatia) we keep to the right and overtake to the left. Troops on the march always keep to the right side of the road, so in whatever part of the Empire you meet them, keep to the left."
Unfortunately I do not currently have any information on when the left hand driving regions switched to the right, but it is probably after the end of World War I.
== clarification: All of Austria Hungary adopted driving on the left from 1915 (source Kincaid). The change to drive on the right was probably 1926 as that is the year given elsewhere for former Yugoslavia Noel Ellis 01:46, 28 January 2022 (UTC) Noel Ellis — Preceding unsigned comment added by Noel Ellis ( talk • contribs)
In my country, Denmark, if you are walking on a street with no sidewalk (typically, outside towns) you are required by law to walk on the left side of the street, so you will meet oncoming traffic face-on.
I've heard that India has the opposite rule: Pedestrians should walk on the same side of the street as driving cars.
Is there any information about similar rules in other countries? Oz1cz ( talk) 16:31, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
Will Hong Kong and Macau switched to RHT like mainland China when the two are fully merged in China in 2047? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:842:C101:54E0:F034:DD47:7EEF:738 ( talk) 05:10, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
I'm fairly certain that Rolls Royce and Honda etc simply put the steering wheel on the opposite side to Ford for technical reasons - and the govts of those 2 countries simply wanted to assist their local car manufacturers when later making the decision - which forced Ford of The US to change the steering wheel for imports simply because it was foreign. Yes of course Ford is foreign everywhere outside The US, but other countries either didn't have carmakers or their local makers put the steering wheels on the same side as Ford. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.99.210.174 ( talk) 18:50, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
Most American cars seem to have been right-hand driven in the early 1900s. Perhaps at that time it was preferred to have the driver's seat on the curbside (which is the right-hand side in right-hand traffic) rather than on the side towards the oncoming traffic. But I wonder why the USA didn't switch to left-hand traffic when most cars were right-hand driven. If the USA is a former British colony, it should have left-hand traffic just as Britain - but it seems that the Americans tended (before they had cars) to drive wagons, drawn by more than two horses, from the left horse and therefore expected oncoming wagons to approach on the left, in order to be able to be attentive to oncoming traffic. But then why didn't the Americans start driving on the left when they produced cars with the driver's seat on the right-hand side of the vehicle? 212.100.101.104 ( talk) 20:58, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
Most languages are written left to right. What about listing those languages which are written right to left such as Arabic? ---- MountVic127 ( talk) 23:03, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
the map about vehicle regulation appears unreliable. Australia is said to approve registration of "wrong-hand-drive" vehicles, but actually doesn't! (excepting, maybe, diplomatic vehicles and some special categories). EU-countries, on the contrary, have to allow the registration of "wrong-hand-drive", but the map wrongly says the don't. 87.6.177.68 ( talk) 17:11, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
It would be better to organize the 'traffic directions of railways and subways by country' in an easy-to-recognize table. 121.171.233.10 ( talk) 01:28, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
Macau is listed as British colony and that's incorrect, Macau was under Portuguese power, not British 2001:8A0:BA8C:7E00:ECC3:5524:1412:8042 ( talk) 21:26, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
I wonder: Exactly which areas in China used left-hand traffic, before 1946? It seems that at least the International Concession of Shanghai and Japanese-occupied northeast China (eventually including the current capital Beijing) used left-hand traffic in the 1930s. Some sources say that even Kunming (or whole of the Yunnan province) and Guangzhou (a.k.a. "Kanton") used left-hand traffic - before the year after the World War II end, when Jiang Jieshi (internationally known as Chiang Kai-shek) ruled that the whole China, including Taiwan (which used left-hand traffic during Japanese colonization 1895–1945), shall use right-hand traffic, just as in America. However, Hong Kong and Macau have so far never switched to right-hand traffic, despite being returned to China from the U.K./Portugal. 212.100.101.104 ( talk) 22:58, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
I wonder why left-hand traffic wasn't introduced in northern and central West-Germany, despite the British occupation of those parts (and the fact that Britain uses left-hand traffic). If British-occupied Germany had introduced left-hand traffic, just like present-day Tanzania/Kenya after WW1, it would most likely not have been any plans for Sweden (then with left-hand traffic) to switch to right-hand traffic (which Sweden now did in early September 1967).
If British-occupied Germany would have left-hand traffic, just as Britain, it might have been connected to the U.K. (without any switch between the right- and left-hand side) via a left-hand traffic motorway through Belgium (and on a bridge across the English Channel). 212.100.101.104 ( talk) 20:36, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
Brazil, as a right-hand traffic country, does not allow registration of RHD vehicles as a rule. But it has one exception: if a RHD vehicle over 30 years is imported, its registration will be allowed under the collection category, as it will happen if the vehicle is LHD, as Brazil allows registration of imported cars only if new or over 30 years.
Resolution Contran (National Traffic Council) number, 528/2015, in Portuguese: https://www.gov.br/transportes/pt-br/assuntos/transito/conteudo-contran/resolucoes/resolucao5282015.pdf
Fasouzafreitas ( talk) 18:22, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
https://www.mevzuat.gov.tr/mevzuat?MevzuatNo=8182&MevzuatTur=7&MevzuatTertip=5
Traffic Regulations, Main section 4, Subsection 1, Article 30, Paragaraph "J" states that; Vehicles with RHD may not be registered for traffic. Except vehicles that are "temporarily imported" (eg. diplomatic), or special use vehicles.
"... geçici ithal ... iş amacına göre ... hariç ... , direksiyonu sağda olan araçların tescili yapılmaz."
Please someone update the list. 92.192.190.201 ( talk) 12:03, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
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Hi DeFacto. You have deleted the road accidents table (below, data from 2013) because you state that it is not the same data as used by Leemington (1969). You are obviously correct, but using your same argument, anybody could delete most photos and maps in this article because they are likewise not directly cited by the sources in the article. The table is meant only as an illustration of the topic discussed by the cited authors Leeming, by Watson (and by Kincaid and others). Please comment. 86.158.154.23 ( talk) 17:04, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
Country | L/R traffic |
Road deaths per 100.000 inhabitants per year [1] |
Road deaths per 100.000 vehicles [1] |
Road deaths per 1 billion vehicle km [2] [1] |
Deaths in most recent year (acc. to WHO data) [1] |
Year, Source (Main source: WHO 2015, [3] Data from 2013) |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Netherlands | R | 3.4 | 6 | 4.5 | 574 | 2013 |
Sweden | R | 2.8 | 4.7 | 3.5 | 272 | 2013 |
In right-hand traffic, the dominant (usually right) hand of the driver is on the gearstick instead of on the steering wheel. Conversely, in left-hand traffic the dominant (right) hand is on the steering wheel. The eyes are also affected differently: in one study, researchers concluded that left-hand traffic may be safer for elderly drivers, [4] since humans are more commonly right-eye dominant than left-eye dominant. [5] Comparing accident statistics between countries operating either LHT or RHT, Leeming concluded that LHT is superior. [6] However, Watson has critcised the small sample size and dismisses the notion. [7] The following table shows road death statistics in comparable pairs of European countries.
Country | L/R traffic |
Road deaths per 100.000 inhabitants per year [1] |
Road deaths per 100.000 vehicles [1] |
Road deaths per 1 billion vehicle km [2] [1] |
Deaths in most recent year (acc. to WHO data) [1] |
Year, Source (Main source: WHO 2015, [3] Data from 2013) |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Cyprus | L | 5.2 | 9.2 | n.a. | 59 | 2013 |
Greece | R | 9.1 | 12.6 | n.a. | 1013 | 2013 |
United Kingdom | L | 2.9 | 5.1 | 3.6 | 1827 | 2013 |
Germany | R | 4.3 | 6.8 | 4.9 | 3540 | 2013 |
References
data from 2013
Tables A2 & A10, data from 2013
watson
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).should be "later the parliament on the suggestion of the government ordered a conversion"
Zzalpha ( talk) 04:52, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
In the BVI, the large majority of cars are unmodified American imports and thus LHD, even though, as a British territory, the rule of the road is LHT. This is pretty disorienting when traveling there. It is pretty easy to source. Is this sort of thing common enough to include? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.160.77.115 ( talk) 22:25, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
According to the article, the Netherlands have RHT on their railroads. Is that really correct? The logo of the Dutch railways (shown here on the right) indicates traffic running on the left, and according to the Wikipedia article on the railways, "The two arrows in the logo represent the train's movement." -- Oz1cz ( talk) 17:44, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
Since I first read this article sometime before April 2012 I paid attention especially while travelling by train within the boundaries of Alsace-Lorraine, which according to the article had its railway lines use right-hand running, on one DB International and two TGV services. The first journey had a flyover where Phase One of LGV Est met the lignes classique with right-hand running between there and Strasbourg. I took my second trip in 2017 after Phase Two opened and I am sure the high-speed line used left-hand running throughout with a flyover where it meets the classic line which I think I have found on the current Google satellite view north of Vendemheim. As for LGV Rhin-Rhône I did not pay as much attention partly because I had never traveled that route before but I am sure the newer looking line used left-hand running throughout. I have found the Google satellite view of the junction at Petit-Croix but unlike at Vendemheim there does not appear to be a flyover though there appear to be points to allow eastbound trains to change sides but I cannot see how it works westbound unless the classic line uses left-hand running at that point. Tk420 ( talk) 21:39, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
Dear Wikipedia, In Pakistan there is a RHT instead of LHT, for Wikipedia's information. If i'm wrong correct me otherwise congrats me. Thanks Have a Good day. 58.27.217.8 ( talk) 09:38, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
I think you are confused between the difference between RHD (Right Hand Drive) and RHT (Right Hand Traffic). 10:49, 29 August 2019 (UTC)~~ Noel Ellis
This map needs updating. Its original creator seems no longer to be active in WP. I've moved it here from the article page for consideration. The following is inaccurate and/or inconsistent with the article:
-- Cornellier ( talk) 11:50, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
Gibraltar is a colony, not part of the UK 10:49, 29 August 2019 (UTC) Noel Ellis
Per WP:NOTMANUAL and WP:OFFTOPIC just reverted 90.202.194.206's "traffic rules and units of measurement for distance and speed for each country alongside driving side". I don't think any discussion is needed about whether the units of measurement are off-topic. And the traffic rules content is just unnecessary. Thoughts? -- Cornellier ( talk) 02:30, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
I note that someone has written a claim that Russia changed to driving on the right in 1917. This can be disproved by photos from the time, and contradicts the change in Finland in 1858. Kincaid has a reference that driving on the right was adopted 5 February 1752 by the decree of Empress Elisaveta Petrovna Also there is no evidence that Belgium drove on the left until 1898. That is just the date the drive on the right became the law. 10:49, 29 August 2019 (UTC)~ Noel Ellis
Per WP:FLAGCRUFT, User:DeFacto removed flags a year and a half ago and now they have been restored by User:Darranc. I think the flags actually interfere with reading the article since I don't know most of them and have to skip past to the actual name. I think this is a case of "just because you can, doesn't mean you should". If they don't directly add info about Left- and right-hand traffic, they shouldn't be there. Thoughts? -- Cornellier ( talk) 14:34, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
I have changed the nonsense reference from Reuters that the change in Samoa "was the first territory to change in 40 years". If we disregard the temporary change in the Falklands in 1982 when the Argentinians imposed RHT for two months until LHT was restored, then it is the first change (in a developed transport system) since Okinawa in 1978. Then we have the issue that technically Okinawa is not a "country" but part of Japan. the last change before that was South Yemen in 1977, which was a country at the time, although now it is now part of unified Yemen. the idea that Samoa was the first to change since Iceland in 1968 is an ignorant piece of racist nonsense, which only makes sense if you only count "white" or European countries. Which does not make sense as Samoa is not a European country! I have also tried to point out that the reference to East Timor changing to LHT in 1976 is nonsense. I think the origin of this is Kincaid who would have us believe that the Indonesians who invaded East Timor in December 1975 respected the local road rules until 17 July 1976 when Indonesia annexed East Timor as a province. There is no contemporary reference to Indonesia making such a change. Kincaid based his claim on the fact that East Timor changed to RHT in 1928 when Portugal changed. This is not disputed. What is of concern is that Kincaid ignores what happened during World War II when Timor was invaded, first by the Allies and then by the Japanese. 09:41, 5 July 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Noel Ellis ( talk • contribs)
It is nonsense because it is clearly wrong. It is racist because it ignores all the changes in non-European countries since 1968. 10:49, 29 August 2019 (UTC)~~ Noel Ellis
In the Europe-Italy section, i think there is some problem that require fix; this is what is actualy present:
The wrong is:
please excuse my bad english, i hope you can understand what i think, what i've tried to explain.
-- 5.170.47.117 ( talk) 07:36, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
Do any accident statistics exist for visitors from, say, an LHT country driving RHT, particularly in the case of people renting vehicles? Due to muscle memory, training, etc., I have heard of people nearly causing accidents due to either the reversed road rules (i.e. "left of way" rather than "right of way" in roundabouts, or shoulder-checking the wrong side) or reversed vehicle controls (someone used to a right-hand stickshift using a left-hand one). Related to this, are there jurisdictions that require some level of training in "reversed" driving before allowing someone from an opposite standard to rent a vehicle or obtain a licence? 70.73.90.119 ( talk) 15:53, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
While it is useful to note countries in which the majority of vehicles are configured for the opposite side of the road, grouping them under "Potential future shifts" is WP:OR. -- Cornellier ( talk) 11:56, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
This article could use some improvement:
-- Cornellier ( talk) 13:14, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
Propose removing the cleanup & too many links flags on the top of the article. -- Cornellier ( talk) 15:19, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
The colour of Afghanistan should be changed. Now according to the article, many roads were LHT. 103.246.39.1 ( talk) 05:24, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
The written history of North America suggests that RHT has always been the prevailing form in teh US, but the map of history labels the US as fomerly LHT. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:B041:5C00:24EF:B8BB:5AC7:4C9F ( talk) 11:37, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
The colour of Russia should be changed. This is because Sakhalin was a Japanese territory and then it became a part of Russia. 103.246.39.1 ( talk) 07:36, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
103.246.39.1 ( talk) 05:12, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
I inserted a statement in the notes, to clarify that some regions of Croatia drove on the left, while other drove on the right during the time of Austro-Hungarian rule. This is based on the Karl Baedeker publication "Austria, including Hungary, Transylvania, Dalmatia and Bosnia", 9th ed. 1900, at pp xiii-xiv: "In Styria, Upper and Lower Austria, Salzburg, Carniola, Croatia, and Hungary we keep to the left, and pass to the right in overtaking; in Carinthia, Tyrol, and the Austrian Littoral (Adriatic coast: Trieste, Gorizia and Gradisca, Istria and Dalmatia) we keep to the right and overtake to the left. Troops on the march always keep to the right side of the road, so in whatever part of the Empire you meet them, keep to the left."
Unfortunately I do not currently have any information on when the left hand driving regions switched to the right, but it is probably after the end of World War I.
== clarification: All of Austria Hungary adopted driving on the left from 1915 (source Kincaid). The change to drive on the right was probably 1926 as that is the year given elsewhere for former Yugoslavia Noel Ellis 01:46, 28 January 2022 (UTC) Noel Ellis — Preceding unsigned comment added by Noel Ellis ( talk • contribs)
In my country, Denmark, if you are walking on a street with no sidewalk (typically, outside towns) you are required by law to walk on the left side of the street, so you will meet oncoming traffic face-on.
I've heard that India has the opposite rule: Pedestrians should walk on the same side of the street as driving cars.
Is there any information about similar rules in other countries? Oz1cz ( talk) 16:31, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
Will Hong Kong and Macau switched to RHT like mainland China when the two are fully merged in China in 2047? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:842:C101:54E0:F034:DD47:7EEF:738 ( talk) 05:10, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
I'm fairly certain that Rolls Royce and Honda etc simply put the steering wheel on the opposite side to Ford for technical reasons - and the govts of those 2 countries simply wanted to assist their local car manufacturers when later making the decision - which forced Ford of The US to change the steering wheel for imports simply because it was foreign. Yes of course Ford is foreign everywhere outside The US, but other countries either didn't have carmakers or their local makers put the steering wheels on the same side as Ford. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.99.210.174 ( talk) 18:50, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
Most American cars seem to have been right-hand driven in the early 1900s. Perhaps at that time it was preferred to have the driver's seat on the curbside (which is the right-hand side in right-hand traffic) rather than on the side towards the oncoming traffic. But I wonder why the USA didn't switch to left-hand traffic when most cars were right-hand driven. If the USA is a former British colony, it should have left-hand traffic just as Britain - but it seems that the Americans tended (before they had cars) to drive wagons, drawn by more than two horses, from the left horse and therefore expected oncoming wagons to approach on the left, in order to be able to be attentive to oncoming traffic. But then why didn't the Americans start driving on the left when they produced cars with the driver's seat on the right-hand side of the vehicle? 212.100.101.104 ( talk) 20:58, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
Most languages are written left to right. What about listing those languages which are written right to left such as Arabic? ---- MountVic127 ( talk) 23:03, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
the map about vehicle regulation appears unreliable. Australia is said to approve registration of "wrong-hand-drive" vehicles, but actually doesn't! (excepting, maybe, diplomatic vehicles and some special categories). EU-countries, on the contrary, have to allow the registration of "wrong-hand-drive", but the map wrongly says the don't. 87.6.177.68 ( talk) 17:11, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
It would be better to organize the 'traffic directions of railways and subways by country' in an easy-to-recognize table. 121.171.233.10 ( talk) 01:28, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
Macau is listed as British colony and that's incorrect, Macau was under Portuguese power, not British 2001:8A0:BA8C:7E00:ECC3:5524:1412:8042 ( talk) 21:26, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
I wonder: Exactly which areas in China used left-hand traffic, before 1946? It seems that at least the International Concession of Shanghai and Japanese-occupied northeast China (eventually including the current capital Beijing) used left-hand traffic in the 1930s. Some sources say that even Kunming (or whole of the Yunnan province) and Guangzhou (a.k.a. "Kanton") used left-hand traffic - before the year after the World War II end, when Jiang Jieshi (internationally known as Chiang Kai-shek) ruled that the whole China, including Taiwan (which used left-hand traffic during Japanese colonization 1895–1945), shall use right-hand traffic, just as in America. However, Hong Kong and Macau have so far never switched to right-hand traffic, despite being returned to China from the U.K./Portugal. 212.100.101.104 ( talk) 22:58, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
I wonder why left-hand traffic wasn't introduced in northern and central West-Germany, despite the British occupation of those parts (and the fact that Britain uses left-hand traffic). If British-occupied Germany had introduced left-hand traffic, just like present-day Tanzania/Kenya after WW1, it would most likely not have been any plans for Sweden (then with left-hand traffic) to switch to right-hand traffic (which Sweden now did in early September 1967).
If British-occupied Germany would have left-hand traffic, just as Britain, it might have been connected to the U.K. (without any switch between the right- and left-hand side) via a left-hand traffic motorway through Belgium (and on a bridge across the English Channel). 212.100.101.104 ( talk) 20:36, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
Brazil, as a right-hand traffic country, does not allow registration of RHD vehicles as a rule. But it has one exception: if a RHD vehicle over 30 years is imported, its registration will be allowed under the collection category, as it will happen if the vehicle is LHD, as Brazil allows registration of imported cars only if new or over 30 years.
Resolution Contran (National Traffic Council) number, 528/2015, in Portuguese: https://www.gov.br/transportes/pt-br/assuntos/transito/conteudo-contran/resolucoes/resolucao5282015.pdf
Fasouzafreitas ( talk) 18:22, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
https://www.mevzuat.gov.tr/mevzuat?MevzuatNo=8182&MevzuatTur=7&MevzuatTertip=5
Traffic Regulations, Main section 4, Subsection 1, Article 30, Paragaraph "J" states that; Vehicles with RHD may not be registered for traffic. Except vehicles that are "temporarily imported" (eg. diplomatic), or special use vehicles.
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Please someone update the list. 92.192.190.201 ( talk) 12:03, 9 October 2023 (UTC)