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Is the link between this article's subject and that of the 1988 film Lair of the White Worm strong enough to merit a link between the two in their Refences section? Davedonohue 04:47, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Wasn't this tale used (or satirized) in Thomas Pynchon's Mason and Dixon? I am sure that the author of this item is not from the north east - phonetic pronunciation of the version of the song listed is nothing like a north east durham accent. There are some words that resemble the local dialect which are written with translation in parentheses. Most of the words thus interpreted sound nothing like the local dialect. There are others which are not highlighted which are definitely local dialect and which are not translated. Overall a nice try - but better to get a local to do the song and translation - with their own phonetic spelling.
In the song, I have always known it as "ye 'boUt", not "ye boOt", and most sites on the internet seem to agree. It would make sesne seeing as though we're talking about the Wear region, where it's pronouned "buk", not "book", etc. Any opposition to me changing it? Logoistic 12:31, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
- I agree, there seems to be quite a few phonetical-spelling mistakes, this is Wearside and not Tyneside we're talking about. I don't know anyone who says 'doon' for down except Geordies. Gazh 11:53, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
I think the confusion is because the song was originally is a form of what became Pitmatic, which is different to Geordie and 'Mackem'. Boot and Doon are correct, at least in the way I was taught it, in Fencehouses and Chester-le-Street. MarwoodChap ( talk) 18:05, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
In Medieval times the terms worm and dragon were interchangeable, a fact noted by JRR Tolkien in the Hobbit where Smaug is frequently referred to as a worm.
With regard to the accent, I grew up on Tyneside at a time when there was a fair amount of local content on the TV, thanks to Tyne Tees Television, and the song was often performed, but as I recall in a fairly standard Geordie accent. -- MichaelGG ( talk) 10:23, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
In the version of the song that I have heard, Lambton cut the worm in "three haalves" - it was a big worm, after all! 79.69.251.16 ( talk) 23:10, 5 May 2008 (UTC)SMcC
When is this supposed to have taken place (yes, I know it isn't real)? I'm just asking, since he actually had descendants, this man Lambton, he must have been (based on) a real person. Xavius, the Satyr Lord ( talk) 15:18, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
thelambton worm was anmyth and allslslslslslslslslslslslsls —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.187.97.56 ( talk) 20:41, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
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There seems to be some discrepancy in this section. Henry Lambton (listed as the 9th generation to suffer the supposed curse) was the son of Ralph Lambton (therefore the 8th generation), who is said on his own page to be the grandson of a Sir William Lambton who died in 1644. This would surely be the same William Lambton who is listed in this article as being the 2nd generation of the curse, having died at the Battle of Marston Moor. However, being the grandfather of the 8th generation of the curse, would that not make him the 6th generation? Worth noting too that the section is severely lacking in citations. Double - U ( talk) 01:27, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
The section makes no sense in general. A person killed in the English Civil War is listed as 2nd Generation and a person killed in the War of the Roses is listed as 3rd Generation. Either a reliable source needs to be found at replicated or the list of dead heirs deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.133.46.33 ( talk) 17:46, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
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Is the link between this article's subject and that of the 1988 film Lair of the White Worm strong enough to merit a link between the two in their Refences section? Davedonohue 04:47, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Wasn't this tale used (or satirized) in Thomas Pynchon's Mason and Dixon? I am sure that the author of this item is not from the north east - phonetic pronunciation of the version of the song listed is nothing like a north east durham accent. There are some words that resemble the local dialect which are written with translation in parentheses. Most of the words thus interpreted sound nothing like the local dialect. There are others which are not highlighted which are definitely local dialect and which are not translated. Overall a nice try - but better to get a local to do the song and translation - with their own phonetic spelling.
In the song, I have always known it as "ye 'boUt", not "ye boOt", and most sites on the internet seem to agree. It would make sesne seeing as though we're talking about the Wear region, where it's pronouned "buk", not "book", etc. Any opposition to me changing it? Logoistic 12:31, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
- I agree, there seems to be quite a few phonetical-spelling mistakes, this is Wearside and not Tyneside we're talking about. I don't know anyone who says 'doon' for down except Geordies. Gazh 11:53, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
I think the confusion is because the song was originally is a form of what became Pitmatic, which is different to Geordie and 'Mackem'. Boot and Doon are correct, at least in the way I was taught it, in Fencehouses and Chester-le-Street. MarwoodChap ( talk) 18:05, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
In Medieval times the terms worm and dragon were interchangeable, a fact noted by JRR Tolkien in the Hobbit where Smaug is frequently referred to as a worm.
With regard to the accent, I grew up on Tyneside at a time when there was a fair amount of local content on the TV, thanks to Tyne Tees Television, and the song was often performed, but as I recall in a fairly standard Geordie accent. -- MichaelGG ( talk) 10:23, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
In the version of the song that I have heard, Lambton cut the worm in "three haalves" - it was a big worm, after all! 79.69.251.16 ( talk) 23:10, 5 May 2008 (UTC)SMcC
When is this supposed to have taken place (yes, I know it isn't real)? I'm just asking, since he actually had descendants, this man Lambton, he must have been (based on) a real person. Xavius, the Satyr Lord ( talk) 15:18, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
thelambton worm was anmyth and allslslslslslslslslslslslsls —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.187.97.56 ( talk) 20:41, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
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There seems to be some discrepancy in this section. Henry Lambton (listed as the 9th generation to suffer the supposed curse) was the son of Ralph Lambton (therefore the 8th generation), who is said on his own page to be the grandson of a Sir William Lambton who died in 1644. This would surely be the same William Lambton who is listed in this article as being the 2nd generation of the curse, having died at the Battle of Marston Moor. However, being the grandfather of the 8th generation of the curse, would that not make him the 6th generation? Worth noting too that the section is severely lacking in citations. Double - U ( talk) 01:27, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
The section makes no sense in general. A person killed in the English Civil War is listed as 2nd Generation and a person killed in the War of the Roses is listed as 3rd Generation. Either a reliable source needs to be found at replicated or the list of dead heirs deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.133.46.33 ( talk) 17:46, 23 April 2024 (UTC)