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Former good articleKurt Cobain was one of the Music good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
On this day... Article milestones
DateProcessResult
June 17, 2005 Featured article candidateNot promoted
December 26, 2005 Featured article candidateNot promoted
February 18, 2006 Good article nomineeListed
August 16, 2009 Good article reassessmentDelisted
March 7, 2014 Peer reviewReviewed
On this day... A fact from this article was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the " On this day..." column on April 5, 2020.
Current status: Delisted good article

Semi-protected edit request on 27 October 2023

This is an edit request for the Sexuality tab. While Kurt cobain did state in an interview in 1992 that he could be bisexual, he definitively identified himself as heterosexual in a 1993 interview with the LA times while talking about his love of dresses. I believe a concrete statement like that is worth noting on the page. < https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1993-08-29-ca-29282-story.html> 2600:6C58:4BF0:3590:9C41:E849:52F4:41D1 ( talk) 21:12, 27 October 2023 (UTC) reply

What needs to be said about the matter is already addressed in the Kurt_Cobain#Sexuality section. There is no need to explicitly state "hetero" in the inbox, and I highly doubt ant biography in the Wikipedia has never done so. Zaathras ( talk) 23:38, 27 October 2023 (UTC) reply

Semi-protected edit request on 10 November 2023

The last sentence in the section “death” > aftermath: Another photo shows Cobain's foot resting next to a bag of shotgun shells, one of which was used in his death.[99] Please remove the words, “one of which was used in his death.”

Safe suicide messaging includes removing the method used. https://reportingonsuicide.org/ 68.235.110.65 ( talk) 12:59, 10 November 2023 (UTC) reply

 Not done: Wikipedia is not censored, and information like the method of death would be informative to readers. Liu1126 ( talk) 13:38, 10 November 2023 (UTC) reply
Lol, "safe suicide messaging" ? We're never going to sanitize encyclopedic information for the sake of feelings. Zaathras ( talk) 14:19, 10 November 2023 (UTC) reply

the picture

seriously though, is THAT the best that you can put in for the picture? 92.24.144.253 ( talk) 21:42, 1 December 2023 (UTC) reply

Perhaps you'd like to suggest an alternative? DonIago ( talk) 21:51, 1 December 2023 (UTC) reply
Hey mate, this one actually shows his entire face.[ https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTJCRcpDihe0UXRX7iW200ff5DKHCoO19OOjg&usqp=CAU 220.233.36.21 ( talk) 07:40, 3 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Another iconic one would be this one as well [1] https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQynHMbkanrC-brbiRXrOPh2j-I-VdAJpoxUA&usqp=CAU 220.233.36.21 ( talk) 07:47, 3 January 2024 (UTC) reply
What's the copyright status of those images? We can't just use random photos we pulled off the internet. DonIago ( talk) 14:20, 3 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  1. is of indeterminable origin. It is used in a Facebook group called "Kurt Cobain Forever Alive In Our Hearts," and there's a similar pic likely from the same photo shoot on pinterest, where someone with long black hair is cropped out. Possibly Dave. Either way, likely copyrighted, not usable.
  2. is credited so Frank Micelotta, Getty images. From the Unplugged session. Unusable. Zaathras ( talk) 22:09, 3 January 2024 (UTC) reply
I usually just make minor grammatical edits so I don't know how to add and cite pictures correctly but can someone please change this? This picture is awful and you can't even tell it's him and somehow it's been up for months at this point. Kurt Cobain is one of the most photographed and recognizable people in the world so it shouldn't be hard to find one more suitable. The one before this, a picture of him with headphones on if I remember correctly, was perfectly fine in my opinion. Not sure what the issue with it was. A cruel angel ( talk) 21:33, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Please review WP:NFCC before commenting on image usage. Thanks. Zaathras ( talk) 23:20, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
For what it's worth, I rather like the current pic in the infobox. It's quite clearly Kurt. Frankly, some fashion show-esque pic like those suggested above, as opposed to a blurry photo of him in concert, would probably be a disservice to his memory and a disservice to this article. CAVincent ( talk) 05:02, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Yeah, what happen to the photo of him with the headphones? Deleted or simply not used because personal preferences of editors? Neocorelight ( Talk) 07:28, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Again, review WP:NFCC at your pleasure, it is the project policy on the usage of non-free content, and the focus on using freely-licensed material when possible. Zaathras ( talk) 12:27, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Zaathras, no, I won't read what I already know. That doesn't answer my question as to why the infobox image changed. Neocorelight ( Talk) 16:09, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Or what happened to the picture of Cobain with headphones. Neocorelight ( Talk) 16:11, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
The current infobox image has been in place for years. Whatever kurt-with-headphones photo you're referring to was probably only in place briefly before being reverted and deleted on non-free content grounds. Y'know, that policy you claim to already know. Zaathras ( talk) 18:12, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
So you don't even know the photo and what happened to it. Hmm... Neocorelight ( Talk) 23:14, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Sighs...
There's a lot of history to dive though, but it appears that the current image was used without issue from the mid 2000s through 2019, barring some brief attempts by licensing-ignorant editors to upload unusable alternatives. Around May 2019, newer licensing-ignorant editors uploaded several variations of what I presume is this image, and managed to fly under the radar for maybe a year or so. When they were finally driven away by common sense and policy-based reasons to delete their uploads, the article returned to the relative stability that we have now. Zaathras ( talk) 00:22, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Kurt St Thomas.jpg. This is how you answer a question. Neocorelight ( Talk) 00:38, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
I'm sorry if a more detailed explanation confused you, I'm also well-aware of how Commons works, seeing how I have initiated several ( one, two, three, four) myself, regarding this page. So here's where we're at. If you add a non-free image, it will be reverted. Simple. Have a better day. Zaathras ( talk) 02:25, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Semi-protected edit request on 26 February 2024

Remove American critics of Christianity 73.14.226.106 ( talk) 23:19, 26 February 2024 (UTC) reply

No. Zaathras ( talk) 23:48, 26 February 2024 (UTC) reply
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Former good articleKurt Cobain was one of the Music good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
On this day... Article milestones
DateProcessResult
June 17, 2005 Featured article candidateNot promoted
December 26, 2005 Featured article candidateNot promoted
February 18, 2006 Good article nomineeListed
August 16, 2009 Good article reassessmentDelisted
March 7, 2014 Peer reviewReviewed
On this day... A fact from this article was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the " On this day..." column on April 5, 2020.
Current status: Delisted good article

Semi-protected edit request on 27 October 2023

This is an edit request for the Sexuality tab. While Kurt cobain did state in an interview in 1992 that he could be bisexual, he definitively identified himself as heterosexual in a 1993 interview with the LA times while talking about his love of dresses. I believe a concrete statement like that is worth noting on the page. < https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1993-08-29-ca-29282-story.html> 2600:6C58:4BF0:3590:9C41:E849:52F4:41D1 ( talk) 21:12, 27 October 2023 (UTC) reply

What needs to be said about the matter is already addressed in the Kurt_Cobain#Sexuality section. There is no need to explicitly state "hetero" in the inbox, and I highly doubt ant biography in the Wikipedia has never done so. Zaathras ( talk) 23:38, 27 October 2023 (UTC) reply

Semi-protected edit request on 10 November 2023

The last sentence in the section “death” > aftermath: Another photo shows Cobain's foot resting next to a bag of shotgun shells, one of which was used in his death.[99] Please remove the words, “one of which was used in his death.”

Safe suicide messaging includes removing the method used. https://reportingonsuicide.org/ 68.235.110.65 ( talk) 12:59, 10 November 2023 (UTC) reply

 Not done: Wikipedia is not censored, and information like the method of death would be informative to readers. Liu1126 ( talk) 13:38, 10 November 2023 (UTC) reply
Lol, "safe suicide messaging" ? We're never going to sanitize encyclopedic information for the sake of feelings. Zaathras ( talk) 14:19, 10 November 2023 (UTC) reply

the picture

seriously though, is THAT the best that you can put in for the picture? 92.24.144.253 ( talk) 21:42, 1 December 2023 (UTC) reply

Perhaps you'd like to suggest an alternative? DonIago ( talk) 21:51, 1 December 2023 (UTC) reply
Hey mate, this one actually shows his entire face.[ https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTJCRcpDihe0UXRX7iW200ff5DKHCoO19OOjg&usqp=CAU 220.233.36.21 ( talk) 07:40, 3 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Another iconic one would be this one as well [1] https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQynHMbkanrC-brbiRXrOPh2j-I-VdAJpoxUA&usqp=CAU 220.233.36.21 ( talk) 07:47, 3 January 2024 (UTC) reply
What's the copyright status of those images? We can't just use random photos we pulled off the internet. DonIago ( talk) 14:20, 3 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  1. is of indeterminable origin. It is used in a Facebook group called "Kurt Cobain Forever Alive In Our Hearts," and there's a similar pic likely from the same photo shoot on pinterest, where someone with long black hair is cropped out. Possibly Dave. Either way, likely copyrighted, not usable.
  2. is credited so Frank Micelotta, Getty images. From the Unplugged session. Unusable. Zaathras ( talk) 22:09, 3 January 2024 (UTC) reply
I usually just make minor grammatical edits so I don't know how to add and cite pictures correctly but can someone please change this? This picture is awful and you can't even tell it's him and somehow it's been up for months at this point. Kurt Cobain is one of the most photographed and recognizable people in the world so it shouldn't be hard to find one more suitable. The one before this, a picture of him with headphones on if I remember correctly, was perfectly fine in my opinion. Not sure what the issue with it was. A cruel angel ( talk) 21:33, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Please review WP:NFCC before commenting on image usage. Thanks. Zaathras ( talk) 23:20, 12 April 2024 (UTC) reply
For what it's worth, I rather like the current pic in the infobox. It's quite clearly Kurt. Frankly, some fashion show-esque pic like those suggested above, as opposed to a blurry photo of him in concert, would probably be a disservice to his memory and a disservice to this article. CAVincent ( talk) 05:02, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Yeah, what happen to the photo of him with the headphones? Deleted or simply not used because personal preferences of editors? Neocorelight ( Talk) 07:28, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Again, review WP:NFCC at your pleasure, it is the project policy on the usage of non-free content, and the focus on using freely-licensed material when possible. Zaathras ( talk) 12:27, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
@ Zaathras, no, I won't read what I already know. That doesn't answer my question as to why the infobox image changed. Neocorelight ( Talk) 16:09, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Or what happened to the picture of Cobain with headphones. Neocorelight ( Talk) 16:11, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
The current infobox image has been in place for years. Whatever kurt-with-headphones photo you're referring to was probably only in place briefly before being reverted and deleted on non-free content grounds. Y'know, that policy you claim to already know. Zaathras ( talk) 18:12, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
So you don't even know the photo and what happened to it. Hmm... Neocorelight ( Talk) 23:14, 13 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Sighs...
There's a lot of history to dive though, but it appears that the current image was used without issue from the mid 2000s through 2019, barring some brief attempts by licensing-ignorant editors to upload unusable alternatives. Around May 2019, newer licensing-ignorant editors uploaded several variations of what I presume is this image, and managed to fly under the radar for maybe a year or so. When they were finally driven away by common sense and policy-based reasons to delete their uploads, the article returned to the relative stability that we have now. Zaathras ( talk) 00:22, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Kurt St Thomas.jpg. This is how you answer a question. Neocorelight ( Talk) 00:38, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply
I'm sorry if a more detailed explanation confused you, I'm also well-aware of how Commons works, seeing how I have initiated several ( one, two, three, four) myself, regarding this page. So here's where we're at. If you add a non-free image, it will be reverted. Simple. Have a better day. Zaathras ( talk) 02:25, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply

Semi-protected edit request on 26 February 2024

Remove American critics of Christianity 73.14.226.106 ( talk) 23:19, 26 February 2024 (UTC) reply

No. Zaathras ( talk) 23:48, 26 February 2024 (UTC) reply

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