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"Often noted for her striking red hair" - is that really the most important thing about Julianne Moore, that it needs to be stated in the introduction? Even more important than her four Oscar nominations apparently. "Bruce Willis, often noted for his striking bald head"...? No. 172.200.38.27 18:46, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Does the collar match the cuffs? I will have to watch boogie nights again. 76.186.118.246 ( talk) 05:05, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
It's ironic, isn't it, that movie stars, who regularly have what must be among the most expensive makeup and photography, wind up in Wiki articles being represented by public domain shots taken by fans? (We have to thank David Shankbone, of course, for making one available at all.) Alpha Ralpha Boulevard ( talk) 18:13, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
On "Late Night with Conan O'Brien" tonight (September 26, 2008) Julianne noted this entry and that someone, presumably Sundar Chakravarthy himself, keeps adding that he was her first husband, back in the 80s, but that this is untrue. She was never married to this person. The entry has just (within the last two minutes) edited to reflect this. Good work, Wikipedians! Dreamalynn ( talk) 05:07, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
This movie doesn't actually exist... See http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0207740/faq —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.27.140.208 ( talk) 06:00, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
I do not think that the atheist category should be used here. The only source for it is [www.celebatheists.com]. The website is very unreliable, is very POV-ed to the atheist viewpoint. It also has many miscategorized entries already. It has Ray Romano as an atheist, when he is known to be a devout Catholic, and has Einstein as an atheist, when he is known to have been a pantheistic Jew. Their quote from Ray Romano is clearly just a joking quote, with God saying something along the lines of "Yes, I do exist." They list Einstein using a quote where he actually says that he does think God exists. Moore's only quote was also clearly a joking quote and is along the lines of Romano's. Why anyone takes CelebAtheists seriously is beyond me, but it shouldn't be used as a reference. Dr. Hannibal Lecter 21:39, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
I guess this is still an issue. The source has been improved and I have no doubt she said it, but it is synthesis. She was not asked "are you an atheist?". She was asked what she would say to God at the pearly gates. She didn't answer "nothing, because I'm an atheist". She said "wow I was wrong. You really do exist." The old "person arriving at the pearly gates" is a joke staple, so how do we know Moore wasn't delivering a punchline? Given the context, she may have been replying in a glib manner, she may have been making a joke, she may have been deflecting a question that was nobody's business but her own, or she may have been confirming that she is an atheist. It's an indirect answer to an indirect question and is too vague and too open to interpretation. The problem is that she did not make a straight forward statement, and taking WP:BLP into account, we should always err on the side of caution, even if that sometimes we mean we miss something. If Moore was a genuine atheist and it was a significant issue for her, I would expect there to be something else that could be reliably sourced to confirm it. I've tried to find a record of an interview where she discusses her religious views, and I haven't been able to. I think we need something more compelling as we seem to be making a major assumption based on a comment that is not absolute. Rossrs ( talk) 00:27, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
Just wondering if there was any particular reason why there is no mention of Julianne Moore being a children's book author, namely Freckleface Strawberry. It's also a musical now. I've included a link here of the site for the musical that describes the book. There is also a Youtube video of Julianne Moore. Now that I mention it, why isn't there a page for Freckleface in general? Kaylahawk ( talk) 06:24, 16 December 2010 (UTC) http://www.frecklefacethemusical.com/about-the-book.html
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Ok, I'll try to explain where I consider the prose problems lie, based on reading the opening few sections.
Hope this is more helpful than off-putting. Espresso Addict ( talk) 02:42, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
Since she has separate pages for her filmography and awards sections, I find it redundant to then have a table for both on her main page when the whole point of having separate pages is to remove it from her main, to get rid of copious amounts of information, to then help with browsing and cuts down loading times of the page. Who is for having information on her main and who is for leaving on the "main" article on there Lady Lotus ( talk) 17:05, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for bringing the issue to the talk page. I personally dislike seeing completely empty sections that just link to another article - I don't see why we can't provide some information here (kind of like WP:SUMMARY). In case it's not clear, only her most notable films and awards are currently listed, and both tables are small...no "copious amounts of information". This is also a really easy way for readers to know the most important films of Moore's career, and her main award nominations. They may not want to see all c. 50 films Moore has appeared in, or the dozens of award nominations she has received (which is their only option if they click on the "main" articles). I really really think it's useful; if it was up to me, all actor pages would have a "select filmography" (unless their list of credits is short, that is). -- Loeba (talk) 17:27, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
Have you even read WP:INDISCRIMINATE? It's the whole reason why there is a section like that to discuss things like not having a laundry list of every minor or regional award. Taking out those awards helps keep the clutter of awards to a minimum. Anyone can make an award and give it out and call it prestigious. And I'm quite sure if I looked at most of the WP:FL's actors awards list, they could use trimming too. You seem to think that you're the only editor that can edit this page too. You revert most anything that tries to be edited. I'll edit to be inline with the compromise of getting rid of the tables. Lady Lotus ( talk) 21:01, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
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Under "Personal life," first sentence. "Who" should be "whom." 12.221.32.234 ( talk) 09:51, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
I've tried to fix [1] the rather glaring dangling modifier in sentence 2 of the lead ("A prolific cinema actress since the early 1990s, Moore's career has involved…"), which had apparently been introduced in this edit [2] after the FA promotion. Anybody mind if I make the same change also in the front page excerpt? Fut.Perf. ☼ 11:23, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
Is that "part of the series" template really needed? The only two other articles are anyhow linked in main body. --Vigyani talk ਯੋਗਦਾਨ 13:28, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
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Julianne Moore is also an advocate/spokesperson for the Tuberous Sclerosis Alliance. She has been for quite some time now (at least 2003). Can someone please edit this on her information please? It is important to mention and raise awareness of Tuberous Sclerosis Complex. You can verify her support by going onto www.tsalliance.org thank you!
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Although most sources seem to say she was born in North Carolina, CBS News says she was born in Boston [3], and so does Yahoo Movies [4], both very reliable sources. Does anyone know for sure? I've changed it to Boston for the moment. JackO'Lantern 18:43, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
Internet Movie Data Base also indicates her birthplace is Fayetteville, NC; Fort Bragg. Considering her father's military career, I would suspect the Fort Bragg is correct!
On several occasions, I have heard Ft. Bragg, NC. This can be found easily by pulling the military records of her father. Boston is probably the work of an agent, since it sounds more artsy.
It is possible that her father was at Ft. Bragg when she was born in Boston and people just assumed that she was born in Ft. Bragg Kneazle kid ( talk) 19:08, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
I checked the North Carolina Birth Index on Ancestry.com, and she indeed was born in North Carolina. Stutzey ( talk) 20:32, 23 August 2008 (UTC)stutzey
Ok Yumikt ( talk) 10:17, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
I was reading through this article and there was no mention of Julianne Moore's role in the 2008 movie Eagle Eye. Is there a reason for this, or was it somehow missed when this article written? Thanks, Gluons12 talk 17:47, 20 June 2016 (UTC).
The film is listed in the Julianne Moore filmography, though her role was apparently uncredited. Perhabs a bit too minor for a mention in the main article. Dimadick ( talk) 17:09, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
The consensus is that the nationality in the lead sentence should be American. Editors noted that Julianne Moore had only obtained British dual citizenship recently to honor her mother and had never moved to Britain. Cunard ( talk) 05:23, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
Editors have not reached a consensus about what is the most appropriate nationality to present in the lead sentence for Moore, who is a dual citizen. Options such as "British American", "American-British", and "British and American" have been proposed (also, "British" in any of the aforementioned options could just as well be replaced by "Scottish"), though more editors are needed to come to a consensus as to which is the most suitable. Thanks! Wolfdog ( talk) 21:56, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
It looks like the consensus is for "American". I will make the change in the next day or so unless there is any immediate reason raised (and I admit, I'm not great with WP policy, so stop me if you feel this is a misstep). Wolfdog ( talk) 23:54, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
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I want to come to a consensus with all editors/users, who have interest to this particular subject, as to why we should change the photograph. User:TAnthony User:Krimuk2.0 User:Tenebrae User:NeilN There are two images I would like to discuss upon: the current image: File:Julianne Moore (15011443428).jpg, and the image that I believe is a better fit: File:Julianne Moore Cannes 2016 (cropped) (2).jpg. I would like to hear your opinions on the following subject, that way we can come to a consensus and prevent/avoid an edit war or any other conflict for that matter.
Thank you in advanced for your cooperation. Any other interested users/editors are welcome to participate and contribute. Film Enthusiast ( talk) 06:30, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
The 2019 remake of After the Wedding credits JM as one of the producers. Probably the first time, but shouldn't we add this to her profile? -- 91.47.25.21 ( talk) 05:55, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
I understand that she has British citizenship, but she's not actually British. Her citizenship is just a formality, that she only has because of her mother. She never even lived there. I am going to be bold and remove it. JDDJS ( talk) 22:32, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
-- 86.72.50.12 ( talk) 23:13, 23 January 2016 (UTC) So, it's an American actress of British descent.-- 86.72.50.12 ( talk) 23:13, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
@ Loeba and Samuelhinchliffe1991: I apologize for using the wrong "ping" brackets above. Anyway, to reiterate: You two prefer "American-British" or "American-Scottish" to "British-American". Any particular reason why? Wolfdog ( talk) 06:17, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
There's no such thing as " Scottish Citizenship " Because Scottish are British. All Scottish hold British Citizenship since There is only British Citizenship — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.1.162.158 ( talk) 13:44, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
She holds a British Citizenship, having a British Passport. Since She wanted to be British, according to her interview. And She classified herself as British. So Don't act like You know better than herself and change how She is. End of story — Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.24.79.97 ( talk) 13:51, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
---I am not offering this as a reference for the topic, however, it's clear in all recorded interviews, Moore refers to her mother as Scottish.
"Moore said: "My mother came here [to the US] from Scotland when she was 10-years-old. It's a challenging thing. In the United States we talk so much about assimilation, but that was not my experience growing up. My experience was that my mother was very Scottish.
"She was only 20 when I was born and she hadn't changed or become 'Americanised'.
"When I was growing up, she'd say, 'Remember, you are not American'". [8]
-- 82.132.213.26 ( talk) 09:22, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
Marisa Tomei and Julianne Moore are cousins as documented on Finding Your Roots with Henry Louis Gates, Jr. 96.228.47.127 ( talk) 00:58, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
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"Often noted for her striking red hair" - is that really the most important thing about Julianne Moore, that it needs to be stated in the introduction? Even more important than her four Oscar nominations apparently. "Bruce Willis, often noted for his striking bald head"...? No. 172.200.38.27 18:46, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Does the collar match the cuffs? I will have to watch boogie nights again. 76.186.118.246 ( talk) 05:05, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
It's ironic, isn't it, that movie stars, who regularly have what must be among the most expensive makeup and photography, wind up in Wiki articles being represented by public domain shots taken by fans? (We have to thank David Shankbone, of course, for making one available at all.) Alpha Ralpha Boulevard ( talk) 18:13, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
On "Late Night with Conan O'Brien" tonight (September 26, 2008) Julianne noted this entry and that someone, presumably Sundar Chakravarthy himself, keeps adding that he was her first husband, back in the 80s, but that this is untrue. She was never married to this person. The entry has just (within the last two minutes) edited to reflect this. Good work, Wikipedians! Dreamalynn ( talk) 05:07, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
This movie doesn't actually exist... See http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0207740/faq —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.27.140.208 ( talk) 06:00, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
I do not think that the atheist category should be used here. The only source for it is [www.celebatheists.com]. The website is very unreliable, is very POV-ed to the atheist viewpoint. It also has many miscategorized entries already. It has Ray Romano as an atheist, when he is known to be a devout Catholic, and has Einstein as an atheist, when he is known to have been a pantheistic Jew. Their quote from Ray Romano is clearly just a joking quote, with God saying something along the lines of "Yes, I do exist." They list Einstein using a quote where he actually says that he does think God exists. Moore's only quote was also clearly a joking quote and is along the lines of Romano's. Why anyone takes CelebAtheists seriously is beyond me, but it shouldn't be used as a reference. Dr. Hannibal Lecter 21:39, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
I guess this is still an issue. The source has been improved and I have no doubt she said it, but it is synthesis. She was not asked "are you an atheist?". She was asked what she would say to God at the pearly gates. She didn't answer "nothing, because I'm an atheist". She said "wow I was wrong. You really do exist." The old "person arriving at the pearly gates" is a joke staple, so how do we know Moore wasn't delivering a punchline? Given the context, she may have been replying in a glib manner, she may have been making a joke, she may have been deflecting a question that was nobody's business but her own, or she may have been confirming that she is an atheist. It's an indirect answer to an indirect question and is too vague and too open to interpretation. The problem is that she did not make a straight forward statement, and taking WP:BLP into account, we should always err on the side of caution, even if that sometimes we mean we miss something. If Moore was a genuine atheist and it was a significant issue for her, I would expect there to be something else that could be reliably sourced to confirm it. I've tried to find a record of an interview where she discusses her religious views, and I haven't been able to. I think we need something more compelling as we seem to be making a major assumption based on a comment that is not absolute. Rossrs ( talk) 00:27, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
Just wondering if there was any particular reason why there is no mention of Julianne Moore being a children's book author, namely Freckleface Strawberry. It's also a musical now. I've included a link here of the site for the musical that describes the book. There is also a Youtube video of Julianne Moore. Now that I mention it, why isn't there a page for Freckleface in general? Kaylahawk ( talk) 06:24, 16 December 2010 (UTC) http://www.frecklefacethemusical.com/about-the-book.html
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Ok, I'll try to explain where I consider the prose problems lie, based on reading the opening few sections.
Hope this is more helpful than off-putting. Espresso Addict ( talk) 02:42, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
Since she has separate pages for her filmography and awards sections, I find it redundant to then have a table for both on her main page when the whole point of having separate pages is to remove it from her main, to get rid of copious amounts of information, to then help with browsing and cuts down loading times of the page. Who is for having information on her main and who is for leaving on the "main" article on there Lady Lotus ( talk) 17:05, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for bringing the issue to the talk page. I personally dislike seeing completely empty sections that just link to another article - I don't see why we can't provide some information here (kind of like WP:SUMMARY). In case it's not clear, only her most notable films and awards are currently listed, and both tables are small...no "copious amounts of information". This is also a really easy way for readers to know the most important films of Moore's career, and her main award nominations. They may not want to see all c. 50 films Moore has appeared in, or the dozens of award nominations she has received (which is their only option if they click on the "main" articles). I really really think it's useful; if it was up to me, all actor pages would have a "select filmography" (unless their list of credits is short, that is). -- Loeba (talk) 17:27, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
Have you even read WP:INDISCRIMINATE? It's the whole reason why there is a section like that to discuss things like not having a laundry list of every minor or regional award. Taking out those awards helps keep the clutter of awards to a minimum. Anyone can make an award and give it out and call it prestigious. And I'm quite sure if I looked at most of the WP:FL's actors awards list, they could use trimming too. You seem to think that you're the only editor that can edit this page too. You revert most anything that tries to be edited. I'll edit to be inline with the compromise of getting rid of the tables. Lady Lotus ( talk) 21:01, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
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Under "Personal life," first sentence. "Who" should be "whom." 12.221.32.234 ( talk) 09:51, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
I've tried to fix [1] the rather glaring dangling modifier in sentence 2 of the lead ("A prolific cinema actress since the early 1990s, Moore's career has involved…"), which had apparently been introduced in this edit [2] after the FA promotion. Anybody mind if I make the same change also in the front page excerpt? Fut.Perf. ☼ 11:23, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
Is that "part of the series" template really needed? The only two other articles are anyhow linked in main body. --Vigyani talk ਯੋਗਦਾਨ 13:28, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
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Julianne Moore is also an advocate/spokesperson for the Tuberous Sclerosis Alliance. She has been for quite some time now (at least 2003). Can someone please edit this on her information please? It is important to mention and raise awareness of Tuberous Sclerosis Complex. You can verify her support by going onto www.tsalliance.org thank you!
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Although most sources seem to say she was born in North Carolina, CBS News says she was born in Boston [3], and so does Yahoo Movies [4], both very reliable sources. Does anyone know for sure? I've changed it to Boston for the moment. JackO'Lantern 18:43, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
Internet Movie Data Base also indicates her birthplace is Fayetteville, NC; Fort Bragg. Considering her father's military career, I would suspect the Fort Bragg is correct!
On several occasions, I have heard Ft. Bragg, NC. This can be found easily by pulling the military records of her father. Boston is probably the work of an agent, since it sounds more artsy.
It is possible that her father was at Ft. Bragg when she was born in Boston and people just assumed that she was born in Ft. Bragg Kneazle kid ( talk) 19:08, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
I checked the North Carolina Birth Index on Ancestry.com, and she indeed was born in North Carolina. Stutzey ( talk) 20:32, 23 August 2008 (UTC)stutzey
Ok Yumikt ( talk) 10:17, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
I was reading through this article and there was no mention of Julianne Moore's role in the 2008 movie Eagle Eye. Is there a reason for this, or was it somehow missed when this article written? Thanks, Gluons12 talk 17:47, 20 June 2016 (UTC).
The film is listed in the Julianne Moore filmography, though her role was apparently uncredited. Perhabs a bit too minor for a mention in the main article. Dimadick ( talk) 17:09, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
The consensus is that the nationality in the lead sentence should be American. Editors noted that Julianne Moore had only obtained British dual citizenship recently to honor her mother and had never moved to Britain. Cunard ( talk) 05:23, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
Editors have not reached a consensus about what is the most appropriate nationality to present in the lead sentence for Moore, who is a dual citizen. Options such as "British American", "American-British", and "British and American" have been proposed (also, "British" in any of the aforementioned options could just as well be replaced by "Scottish"), though more editors are needed to come to a consensus as to which is the most suitable. Thanks! Wolfdog ( talk) 21:56, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
It looks like the consensus is for "American". I will make the change in the next day or so unless there is any immediate reason raised (and I admit, I'm not great with WP policy, so stop me if you feel this is a misstep). Wolfdog ( talk) 23:54, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
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I want to come to a consensus with all editors/users, who have interest to this particular subject, as to why we should change the photograph. User:TAnthony User:Krimuk2.0 User:Tenebrae User:NeilN There are two images I would like to discuss upon: the current image: File:Julianne Moore (15011443428).jpg, and the image that I believe is a better fit: File:Julianne Moore Cannes 2016 (cropped) (2).jpg. I would like to hear your opinions on the following subject, that way we can come to a consensus and prevent/avoid an edit war or any other conflict for that matter.
Thank you in advanced for your cooperation. Any other interested users/editors are welcome to participate and contribute. Film Enthusiast ( talk) 06:30, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
The 2019 remake of After the Wedding credits JM as one of the producers. Probably the first time, but shouldn't we add this to her profile? -- 91.47.25.21 ( talk) 05:55, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
I understand that she has British citizenship, but she's not actually British. Her citizenship is just a formality, that she only has because of her mother. She never even lived there. I am going to be bold and remove it. JDDJS ( talk) 22:32, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
-- 86.72.50.12 ( talk) 23:13, 23 January 2016 (UTC) So, it's an American actress of British descent.-- 86.72.50.12 ( talk) 23:13, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
@ Loeba and Samuelhinchliffe1991: I apologize for using the wrong "ping" brackets above. Anyway, to reiterate: You two prefer "American-British" or "American-Scottish" to "British-American". Any particular reason why? Wolfdog ( talk) 06:17, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
There's no such thing as " Scottish Citizenship " Because Scottish are British. All Scottish hold British Citizenship since There is only British Citizenship — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.1.162.158 ( talk) 13:44, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
She holds a British Citizenship, having a British Passport. Since She wanted to be British, according to her interview. And She classified herself as British. So Don't act like You know better than herself and change how She is. End of story — Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.24.79.97 ( talk) 13:51, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
---I am not offering this as a reference for the topic, however, it's clear in all recorded interviews, Moore refers to her mother as Scottish.
"Moore said: "My mother came here [to the US] from Scotland when she was 10-years-old. It's a challenging thing. In the United States we talk so much about assimilation, but that was not my experience growing up. My experience was that my mother was very Scottish.
"She was only 20 when I was born and she hadn't changed or become 'Americanised'.
"When I was growing up, she'd say, 'Remember, you are not American'". [8]
-- 82.132.213.26 ( talk) 09:22, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
Marisa Tomei and Julianne Moore are cousins as documented on Finding Your Roots with Henry Louis Gates, Jr. 96.228.47.127 ( talk) 00:58, 17 November 2021 (UTC)