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Programming languages are like natural languages, so can we put a box to the side of the page like on a natural language page, that has the languages pedigree? for example,
Spanish | |
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Castilian | |
| |
Pronunciation |
[espaˈɲol] ⓘ
[kasteˈʝano] ⓘ, [kasteˈʎano] ⓘ |
Speakers | Native: 500 million (2023)
[1] Total: 600 million [1] 100 million speakers with limited capacity (23 million students) [1] |
Early forms | |
Latin script (
Spanish alphabet) Spanish Braille | |
Signed Spanish (using signs of the local language) | |
Official status | |
Official language in | |
Regulated by |
Association of Spanish Language Academies ( Real Academia Española and 22 other national Spanish language academies) |
Language codes | |
ISO 639-1 |
es |
ISO 639-2 |
spa |
ISO 639-3 |
spa |
Glottolog |
stan1288 |
Linguasphere | 51-AAA-b |
Official majority language
Co-official or administrative language but not majority native language
Secondary language (more than 20% Spanish speakers) or culturally important | |
38.43.22.44 ( talk) 21:26, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Programming languages are like natural languages. No they aren't. That being said, like many collections of things (family trees, biological taxonomies, books in a library) they can be arranged in a hierarchy. At least, some of them can. I'm supposing some of them would be better described as creoles. I'll leave it to others to discuss whether this is of value. But perhaps this would be better discussed at a higher-level, general page like Wikipedia:WikiProject Software. Largoplazo ( talk) 00:58, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Programming languages are like natural languages, so can we put a box to the side of the page like on a natural language page, that has the languages pedigree?Yes, you can; it's called {{ Infobox programming language}}, and it's already there.
As you can see, Spanish is descended from Latin,And, as you can see from that infobox, JavaScript is descended from Java, [4] [5] Scheme, [5] Self, [6] AWK, [7] and HyperTalk [8]
which is descended from Proto Indo European.Which is only implicitly mentioned in the {{ Infobox language}} infobox in Spanish language.
Could we show the same with Javascript, to show that it is descended from C++Is it descended directly from C++, or it it descended from - or, rather, influenced by - Java, which is, in turn, influenced by many languages, including but not limited to C++? Guy Harris ( talk) 06:52, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
I don't want to disputeBut you submitted a proposal; did you seriously think that submitting a proposal does not risk dispute? If so, you made a mistaken assumption. (Even if you thought your particular proposal was uncontroversial, you made a mistaken assumption, as you have now discovered.)
I think it could be usefulAnd I am unconvinced of that, for the reasons I've already given. It appears that User:Rp may also be unconvinced of that. Guy Harris ( talk) 21:18, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Disagree with this proposal. The notion of a family is inherently flawed when it comes to JavaScript. It is a distinct language created (rather hastily in hindsight) for the specific purpose of dynamic webpages. The current "Influenced" lists in the sidebar are sufficient as-is. - Pmffl ( talk) 14:05, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
References
viva18
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).Eich: The immediate concern at Netscape was it must look like Java.
origin
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).Eich: "function", eight letters, I was influenced by AWK.
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Programming languages are like natural languages, so can we put a box to the side of the page like on a natural language page, that has the languages pedigree? for example,
Spanish | |
---|---|
Castilian | |
| |
Pronunciation |
[espaˈɲol] ⓘ
[kasteˈʝano] ⓘ, [kasteˈʎano] ⓘ |
Speakers | Native: 500 million (2023)
[1] Total: 600 million [1] 100 million speakers with limited capacity (23 million students) [1] |
Early forms | |
Latin script (
Spanish alphabet) Spanish Braille | |
Signed Spanish (using signs of the local language) | |
Official status | |
Official language in | |
Regulated by |
Association of Spanish Language Academies ( Real Academia Española and 22 other national Spanish language academies) |
Language codes | |
ISO 639-1 |
es |
ISO 639-2 |
spa |
ISO 639-3 |
spa |
Glottolog |
stan1288 |
Linguasphere | 51-AAA-b |
Official majority language
Co-official or administrative language but not majority native language
Secondary language (more than 20% Spanish speakers) or culturally important | |
38.43.22.44 ( talk) 21:26, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Programming languages are like natural languages. No they aren't. That being said, like many collections of things (family trees, biological taxonomies, books in a library) they can be arranged in a hierarchy. At least, some of them can. I'm supposing some of them would be better described as creoles. I'll leave it to others to discuss whether this is of value. But perhaps this would be better discussed at a higher-level, general page like Wikipedia:WikiProject Software. Largoplazo ( talk) 00:58, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Programming languages are like natural languages, so can we put a box to the side of the page like on a natural language page, that has the languages pedigree?Yes, you can; it's called {{ Infobox programming language}}, and it's already there.
As you can see, Spanish is descended from Latin,And, as you can see from that infobox, JavaScript is descended from Java, [4] [5] Scheme, [5] Self, [6] AWK, [7] and HyperTalk [8]
which is descended from Proto Indo European.Which is only implicitly mentioned in the {{ Infobox language}} infobox in Spanish language.
Could we show the same with Javascript, to show that it is descended from C++Is it descended directly from C++, or it it descended from - or, rather, influenced by - Java, which is, in turn, influenced by many languages, including but not limited to C++? Guy Harris ( talk) 06:52, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
I don't want to disputeBut you submitted a proposal; did you seriously think that submitting a proposal does not risk dispute? If so, you made a mistaken assumption. (Even if you thought your particular proposal was uncontroversial, you made a mistaken assumption, as you have now discovered.)
I think it could be usefulAnd I am unconvinced of that, for the reasons I've already given. It appears that User:Rp may also be unconvinced of that. Guy Harris ( talk) 21:18, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Disagree with this proposal. The notion of a family is inherently flawed when it comes to JavaScript. It is a distinct language created (rather hastily in hindsight) for the specific purpose of dynamic webpages. The current "Influenced" lists in the sidebar are sufficient as-is. - Pmffl ( talk) 14:05, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
References
viva18
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).Eich: The immediate concern at Netscape was it must look like Java.
origin
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).Eich: "function", eight letters, I was influenced by AWK.