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The International Classification of Diseases, Ninth Revision, Clinical Modification (ICD-9-CM) is based on the World Health Organization's Ninth Revision, International Classification of Diseases (ICD-9). ICD-9-CM is the official system of assigning codes to diagnoses and procedures associated with hospital utilization in the United States. The ICD-9 is used to code and classify mortality data from death certificates.
The National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS) and the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services are the U.S. governmental agencies responsible for overseeing all changes and modifications to the ICD-9-CM.
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/about/otheract/icd9/abticd9.htm
The following email from NCHS verifies that we may use it how we wish:
Subject: RE: Data posted to form 1 of http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/mail/mail.htm Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 07:37:32 -0400 From: "NCHSED" <nchsed@cdc.gov> To: petersam
All of NCHS data is in Public Domain. You may use it how it wish. All NCHS asks is that you cite us as your source: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/howto/howto.htm
Original Message-----
From: Chase, Johncene M. On Behalf Of NCHS QUERY Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 4:16 PM To: NCHSED Subject: FW: Data posted to form 1 of http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/mail/mail.htm
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comments:
Is there any restrictions to the use of ICD-9 http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/icd9.htm as a categorization of medical/clinical topics in a public on-line internet encyclopedia?
Could part or all of it be reprinted?
Thank you, peter sam www.wikipedia.org
Possible choice for Wikipedia:WikiProject Clinical medicine/categorizations
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Clinical medicine/categorizations Petersam 19:38, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I work in the health care industry in the US, so I'm familiar with ICD-9-CM, but don't really know very much about ICD-10. The current article states that "ICD-10-CM codes are not currently valid for any purpose or uses," but I was under the impression that ICD-10-CM codes are used in the US for mortality or death certificate purposes. Can someone confirm this and update the article?
It appears that ICD-9-CM V and E codes have been turned into ICD-10-CM S, T, V, W, X, and Y codes. If this is the case, I think that might deserve a mention.
Also, ICD-9-CM has both diag and procedure codes. I don't see anything written about ICD-10-CM procedure codes. If the procedure codes still exist, they need to be included in this article. -- Pagrashtak 6 July 2005 18:49 (UTC)
Are the codes used in the DSM-IV-TR and the ICD-9 the same? I noticed that the DSM codes were removed from the mental disorder pages, and I was going to replace some until I realized that they are the same for several disorders.
This article needs to be cleaned up. There are many places where information is repeated under a difference subheading, or conflicted. For example, the article states that the US Public Health Service published ICD-9-CM under one subhead and three paragraphs later it's the Dept of Health and Human Services. This needs to be fixed/clarified. Also, the paragraphs and list under the first subhead (International Statistical...) are repeated almost verbatim under the History section. As I've only skimmed the article, I'm sure that there are other areas that need improvement.
Would someone with more background in the subject give this a shot? JordeeBec 14:26, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
This article still needs a lot of work - it is very US-centric, for what is an international system, which is produced and maintained by an international inter-governmental body. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.129.131.2 ( talk) 11:58, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems → ICD – "ICD" is the most common title for this system of codes (and with a title as long as that one, it's no mystery why). Most of the articles that link to the page right now do so through redirects at ICD-9 and ICD-10. People will be much more likely to use the correct page name if it is intuitive. I've already moved the contents of ICD to ICD (disambiguation); there were only two articles linked to from there, including this one, and the other one has far fewer links.
This article may be
confusing or unclear to readers. (December 2006) |
Huh? -- Beland 01:27, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
Which, exactly? -- Beland 01:31, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
The article is still very US and DSM oriented and needs to be rewritten
Icdmaat (
talk) 10:51, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
I see an anonymous editor changed the planned release date for ICD11 from 2011 to 2015 without any explanation or comment, so I put a citation needed tag after the date. The cited source speculates that it will be released in 2011, but I guess it might have been pushed back since then, a possibility that is supported by a google search for "ICD11 2015". -- Slashme ( talk) 10:48, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
It is definitely 2015, see WHO pages. The source cited older dates that were outdated already at the time of the interview. Icdmaat ( talk) 10:48, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
The documents at the links show a name of "International Classification of Diseases", rather than the long forms on the articles. For example "International Classification of Diseases, Tenth Revision (ICD-10)" and "International Classification of Diseases, Ninth Revision (ICD-9)" sinneed ( talk) 05:02, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Is there rules regarding links to commercial web sites? Why did Jason64 do the edit "Remove links to commercial websites" on the 2010-06-16 ? There are so many other pages regarding technology and products that include links to commercial suppliers that I don't see what the problem is. tygrus ( talk) 02:01, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
this edit was a blatant wp:Copyvio by a one-time editor, a verbatim copy of Appendix L from this cited source. I'll blank the section pending further action. LeadSongDog come howl! 13:43, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
I was looking through and wasn't able to find a section/article on the Australian Modification Version of the ICD-10. I suggest an addition/summary of the differences with the ICD-10 and ICD-10AM as Australias coding systems are fairly well used within the health information services sector. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Phu Lam ( talk • contribs) 00:31, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
Hello!! I am student at the University of Florida and as part of my grade in one of my psychology courses our professor has assigned us to learn and participate in editing a wikipedia page. Because Wikipedia plays a vital role in disseminating psychological science to the masses. I would like to add the four major concerns found by researchers about the ICD-10 and the eight major recommendations for the classification of eating and feeding disorders found in the Eating Disorders Review volume 23 Issue 6. Any input or help would be greatly appreciated!! -- Anajean93 ( talk) 05:14, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
Information under the subheading: History and usage in the United States. Needs to be updated, the implementation date changed from 10/1/13 to 10/1/14 back in August of 2012, below I've included an article that mentions this.
This information should be added:
HHS combines the announcement of an administrative simplification change with confirmation of the ICD-10 transition date for 2014
The Department of Health and Human Services on Aug. 24, in announcing an administration simplification change around the creation of a unique health plan identifier (HPID), also confirmed through that final rule, the delay to Oct. 1, 2014 for compliance with the transition to the ICD-10 coding system, from the ICD-9 coding system. More information on both of these areas can be found at
http://www.cms.gov/apps/media/fact_sheets.asp http://www.healthcare-informatics.com/article/breaking-news-cms-confirms-icd-10-transition-delay-2014 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.241.4.240 ( talk) 20:21, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
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The first three paras of the ICD-11 section are lifted straight from this EC page. Not sure if this counts as plag or not, could someone please take a look. Sincerely, Marksomnian. ( talk) 05:18, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
I've made an attempt on starting ICD-11. It's not much, but we have to start somewhere. This is the next big standard in health care, so obviously it needs an article. Feel free to help me out. See also Talk:ICD-11. Cheers, Manifestation ( talk) 18:03, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved to "International Classification of Disease" b uidh e 05:21, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems →
International Classification of Diseases – The current title is
indeed the official name of the ICD-10, but naming the article as such goes against
WP:COMMON: over 5.1 million hits for
"International Classification of Diseases" versus 424.000 hits for
"International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems".
With the upcoming ICD-11, the WHO appears to prefer the simpler form, "International Classification of Disease", e.g. here. The ICD-11 Reference Guide adds four words to it: "International Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems".
The WHO is passionate about developing standardized terms and definitions, but seems less concerned about standardizing the terms of their standardizations, see also this e-mail I've prepared. Pretty strange. Anyway, I believe the title of this article should be International Classification of Diseases, per WP:COMMON, and because of the commonly used "ICD" acronym. Cheers, Manifestation ( talk) 18:04, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
References
Even though this article is on my watchlist, I just saw this. Something other than WP:Common name to keep in mind is WP:NCMED. I'll alert WP:Med to this move discussion. Flyer22 Frozen ( talk) 07:12, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
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The International Classification of Diseases, Ninth Revision, Clinical Modification (ICD-9-CM) is based on the World Health Organization's Ninth Revision, International Classification of Diseases (ICD-9). ICD-9-CM is the official system of assigning codes to diagnoses and procedures associated with hospital utilization in the United States. The ICD-9 is used to code and classify mortality data from death certificates.
The National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS) and the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services are the U.S. governmental agencies responsible for overseeing all changes and modifications to the ICD-9-CM.
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/about/otheract/icd9/abticd9.htm
The following email from NCHS verifies that we may use it how we wish:
Subject: RE: Data posted to form 1 of http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/mail/mail.htm Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 07:37:32 -0400 From: "NCHSED" <nchsed@cdc.gov> To: petersam
All of NCHS data is in Public Domain. You may use it how it wish. All NCHS asks is that you cite us as your source: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/howto/howto.htm
Original Message-----
From: Chase, Johncene M. On Behalf Of NCHS QUERY Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 4:16 PM To: NCHSED Subject: FW: Data posted to form 1 of http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/mail/mail.htm
Original Message-----
From: srv2@cdc.gov Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 3:24 PM To: NCHS QUERY Subject: Data posted to form 1 of http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/mail/mail.htm
comments:
Is there any restrictions to the use of ICD-9 http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/icd9.htm as a categorization of medical/clinical topics in a public on-line internet encyclopedia?
Could part or all of it be reprinted?
Thank you, peter sam www.wikipedia.org
Possible choice for Wikipedia:WikiProject Clinical medicine/categorizations
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Clinical medicine/categorizations Petersam 19:38, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I work in the health care industry in the US, so I'm familiar with ICD-9-CM, but don't really know very much about ICD-10. The current article states that "ICD-10-CM codes are not currently valid for any purpose or uses," but I was under the impression that ICD-10-CM codes are used in the US for mortality or death certificate purposes. Can someone confirm this and update the article?
It appears that ICD-9-CM V and E codes have been turned into ICD-10-CM S, T, V, W, X, and Y codes. If this is the case, I think that might deserve a mention.
Also, ICD-9-CM has both diag and procedure codes. I don't see anything written about ICD-10-CM procedure codes. If the procedure codes still exist, they need to be included in this article. -- Pagrashtak 6 July 2005 18:49 (UTC)
Are the codes used in the DSM-IV-TR and the ICD-9 the same? I noticed that the DSM codes were removed from the mental disorder pages, and I was going to replace some until I realized that they are the same for several disorders.
This article needs to be cleaned up. There are many places where information is repeated under a difference subheading, or conflicted. For example, the article states that the US Public Health Service published ICD-9-CM under one subhead and three paragraphs later it's the Dept of Health and Human Services. This needs to be fixed/clarified. Also, the paragraphs and list under the first subhead (International Statistical...) are repeated almost verbatim under the History section. As I've only skimmed the article, I'm sure that there are other areas that need improvement.
Would someone with more background in the subject give this a shot? JordeeBec 14:26, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
This article still needs a lot of work - it is very US-centric, for what is an international system, which is produced and maintained by an international inter-governmental body. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.129.131.2 ( talk) 11:58, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems → ICD – "ICD" is the most common title for this system of codes (and with a title as long as that one, it's no mystery why). Most of the articles that link to the page right now do so through redirects at ICD-9 and ICD-10. People will be much more likely to use the correct page name if it is intuitive. I've already moved the contents of ICD to ICD (disambiguation); there were only two articles linked to from there, including this one, and the other one has far fewer links.
This article may be
confusing or unclear to readers. (December 2006) |
Huh? -- Beland 01:27, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
Which, exactly? -- Beland 01:31, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
The article is still very US and DSM oriented and needs to be rewritten
Icdmaat (
talk) 10:51, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
I see an anonymous editor changed the planned release date for ICD11 from 2011 to 2015 without any explanation or comment, so I put a citation needed tag after the date. The cited source speculates that it will be released in 2011, but I guess it might have been pushed back since then, a possibility that is supported by a google search for "ICD11 2015". -- Slashme ( talk) 10:48, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
It is definitely 2015, see WHO pages. The source cited older dates that were outdated already at the time of the interview. Icdmaat ( talk) 10:48, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
The documents at the links show a name of "International Classification of Diseases", rather than the long forms on the articles. For example "International Classification of Diseases, Tenth Revision (ICD-10)" and "International Classification of Diseases, Ninth Revision (ICD-9)" sinneed ( talk) 05:02, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Is there rules regarding links to commercial web sites? Why did Jason64 do the edit "Remove links to commercial websites" on the 2010-06-16 ? There are so many other pages regarding technology and products that include links to commercial suppliers that I don't see what the problem is. tygrus ( talk) 02:01, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
this edit was a blatant wp:Copyvio by a one-time editor, a verbatim copy of Appendix L from this cited source. I'll blank the section pending further action. LeadSongDog come howl! 13:43, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
I was looking through and wasn't able to find a section/article on the Australian Modification Version of the ICD-10. I suggest an addition/summary of the differences with the ICD-10 and ICD-10AM as Australias coding systems are fairly well used within the health information services sector. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Phu Lam ( talk • contribs) 00:31, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
Hello!! I am student at the University of Florida and as part of my grade in one of my psychology courses our professor has assigned us to learn and participate in editing a wikipedia page. Because Wikipedia plays a vital role in disseminating psychological science to the masses. I would like to add the four major concerns found by researchers about the ICD-10 and the eight major recommendations for the classification of eating and feeding disorders found in the Eating Disorders Review volume 23 Issue 6. Any input or help would be greatly appreciated!! -- Anajean93 ( talk) 05:14, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
Information under the subheading: History and usage in the United States. Needs to be updated, the implementation date changed from 10/1/13 to 10/1/14 back in August of 2012, below I've included an article that mentions this.
This information should be added:
HHS combines the announcement of an administrative simplification change with confirmation of the ICD-10 transition date for 2014
The Department of Health and Human Services on Aug. 24, in announcing an administration simplification change around the creation of a unique health plan identifier (HPID), also confirmed through that final rule, the delay to Oct. 1, 2014 for compliance with the transition to the ICD-10 coding system, from the ICD-9 coding system. More information on both of these areas can be found at
http://www.cms.gov/apps/media/fact_sheets.asp http://www.healthcare-informatics.com/article/breaking-news-cms-confirms-icd-10-transition-delay-2014 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.241.4.240 ( talk) 20:21, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
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The first three paras of the ICD-11 section are lifted straight from this EC page. Not sure if this counts as plag or not, could someone please take a look. Sincerely, Marksomnian. ( talk) 05:18, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
I've made an attempt on starting ICD-11. It's not much, but we have to start somewhere. This is the next big standard in health care, so obviously it needs an article. Feel free to help me out. See also Talk:ICD-11. Cheers, Manifestation ( talk) 18:03, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved to "International Classification of Disease" b uidh e 05:21, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems →
International Classification of Diseases – The current title is
indeed the official name of the ICD-10, but naming the article as such goes against
WP:COMMON: over 5.1 million hits for
"International Classification of Diseases" versus 424.000 hits for
"International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems".
With the upcoming ICD-11, the WHO appears to prefer the simpler form, "International Classification of Disease", e.g. here. The ICD-11 Reference Guide adds four words to it: "International Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems".
The WHO is passionate about developing standardized terms and definitions, but seems less concerned about standardizing the terms of their standardizations, see also this e-mail I've prepared. Pretty strange. Anyway, I believe the title of this article should be International Classification of Diseases, per WP:COMMON, and because of the commonly used "ICD" acronym. Cheers, Manifestation ( talk) 18:04, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
References
Even though this article is on my watchlist, I just saw this. Something other than WP:Common name to keep in mind is WP:NCMED. I'll alert WP:Med to this move discussion. Flyer22 Frozen ( talk) 07:12, 19 April 2020 (UTC)