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Randy Orton

I am presently unable to edit this article, but I believe the "famous people who have it" section should be changed to "in popular culture," since it only includes WWE wrestler Randy Orton at this time. To my knowledge, Randy Orton has never claimed that he has IED in real life, nor did he really attack Vince McMahon. This was all kayfabe and I believe this should be made clear. Shrilldrella ( talk) 19:44, 27 January 2009 (UTC) reply

Does Randy Orton even deserve a mention at all? He doesn't have it in real life, just his onscreen character. Sykobabul ( talk) 23:22, 27 January 2009 (UTC) reply

I edited it out completely, including the "Famous people who have it". It was entirely kayfabe and he doesn't deserve a mention in a section like that. DiscipleRaynes ( talk) 05:47, 28 January 2009 (UTC) reply

Regardless of whether or not he ACTUALLY has it, I'd think that his mention of the illness is likely the most mainstream media attention this has gotten in a long while, and THAT deserves a reference. Perhaps "IED in Media" ? 24.128.53.252 ( talk) 02:38, 10 March 2009 (UTC) reply

It is REAL. Randy Orton does have IED. He has his whole life the only reson he was not put in jail longer for his discharge was because of this disorder. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.246.48.151 ( talk) 05:04, 26 March 2009 (UTC) reply

This is sooooooooo true true true true true true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Randy Orton Attacked and R.K.O.ed Steph. AND He attacked ,punted, shane and vince.-- 68.99.6.171 ( talk) 22:11, 30 March 2009 (UTC) reply

Randy Orton sucks. He really doesn't have IED. It's all fake. He just lied so he could try to sue the WWE —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.131.230.100 ( talk) 22:31, 8 April 2009 (UTC) reply

I think this deserves a mentioning. At least just say this disorder was mentioned in a storyline involving Randy Orton. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.233.116.114 ( talk) 07:19, 6 August 2009 (UTC) reply

Oh, you stupid children... arguing about a made up disease and how it affects made up characters in a fake television program... I lol'd a bit, and then decided to call you out on your stupidity. People (all people) get pissed off every once in a while. Some people get more pissed off than they should. A few people get so pissed off as to apear to have a mental problem - What do you mean we're out of butter?! I'll f-ing kill you you b-tch!! Yeah, that guy needs to up his dose... anyways, I digress... any examples taken from the World Wildlife Federation, or WWE as it is called now are absolutely absurd. Morons. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.167.168.116 ( talk) 16:35, 17 February 2010 (UTC) reply

O.k. all you ignorants that just think this is just made up, picture yourself stopping at a stop sign that seems pointless and getting pissed off to the point that you can't control your actions. You're so pissed that you have to punch, smash or just fuck something up in general just so you don't take someone's life instead. That's anger on an irrational level. That's IED, and it accompanies other mental disorders (most commonly anxiety from what I've gathered) High testosterone levels have also been known to cause this. It's more or less a side affect of another condition.

Legal defense

"It has been used as a legal defense successfully." - quoted from paragraph one with no reference. There should be some credible source for such a strong statement. Maybe a case to reference. KASSPER 03:58, 22 December 2006 (UTC) reply

Really?

Really?

I have it myself. Michael 21:57, 3 April 2006 (UTC) reply

I recently did a research project on IED. Current research is showing that it may not be as rare as once thought. My studies show that as many as 2.25-4.5 million people have IED. If you would like to find out more information, you can see Cocarro. It's only "rare" because many times it is discounted or the behavior is attributed to other diagnoses.

What crap - IED is what is commonly known as anger. This is another exmaple of researchers with too much time on their hands trying to overanalyse things. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.229.27.251 ( talk) 19:38, 14 February 2008 (UTC) reply

Uncontrollable anger ;) 68.45.219.63 ( talk) 18:30, 29 July 2008 (UTC) reply

I have a form of this which seems to be temperature-related. If the ambient temperature is above about 24 C degrees, I start to feel agitated. Over a period of time and/or increasing temperature, I start to get an irrational anger--I'll flip out at the slightest provocation. Fortunately, any violence is generally directed at inanimate objects (desk, keyboard, cups, etc.), but I do snap at people and become rather unfriendly.

Below 24 C, I'm a very level-headed and intelligent person (or so I'm told). It takes a lot to get me worked up. It really bothers me when something like this happens and I lose control over my own actions.

Once I realize this IED has started, I go and try to cool off (literally) and avoid people. Unfortunately, once it's started, it takes quite a while to subside, and I'll often have a headache afterward.

While I've only started testing recently, it also seems my body temperature goes up by about 0.4C (hardly noticeable, but higher than my average) and the back of my head feels really hot to the touch. Applying cool compresses to the back of my head provides temporary relief for the heat and some of the agitation.

I've heard a couple of people refer to this as "hot-head syndrome" and that hockey- and (American) football-players who wear helmets can be prone to this, but I have yet to find any real references to it.

(Thanks for watching, we now return you to your regularly-scheduled Wiki.) Electro1574 ( talk) 22:48, 29 January 2010 (UTC) reply

I just want to say to all the people out there that think people are looking for an excuse or something to blame it all on that there is a real threat out there of not understanding one's problem. I am 25, in the U.S. Army, a husband, and a father. I have wondered what was wrong with me for so many years, I knew I was not in control at all times and never understood what it was. I would go to work some days and not know why people acted differently around me the next day. I found out that I did things that I don't remember when I lost control of my emotions and allowed anger and aggression take control of me. I used to get into a large amount of trouble in school growing up, forcing me to see a counselor once a week to make sure I was not going to hurt anyone, go crazy in the school, or burn anything down. I have never caused property damage, but I have put several people in the hospital growing up. When I joined the military, I had not experienced an episode for some time, so I thought it was just maturity, until I reached a level of stress I have never experienced before. I was told by the medics that I had gotten upset and began to fight with others that I worked with and broke one arm, one figure, two noses, and some cracked ribs, before I was submitted by several people. I do not remember any of this, but I did have a dream of what people described to me. I contacted my brother and father to ask if there was a history of this in the family and my brother was diagnosed with it and when my father heard about this he told me that he never told me about it because he didn't want me to worry about it or he was afraid that it'd be true, our family has not had one male member that has not had this problem. It goes back as far as anyone can remember. My family has a long history of aggression, but no one has ever laid their hands on a child or woman, thank God. So, for those that think this is a joke or some excuse, please, let me assure you, there are three people in Afghanistan that are very aware that this is real that had to sustain injuries to see there was a problem. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.68.86.212 ( talk) 23:55, 21 March 2011 (UTC) reply

IED amok - going postal

The mention that some victims have amnesia of the events during the episode suggests that this is a dissociative mental break.

Culture Bound Syndromes have similar symptoms as Amok- Malaysia, and Going Postal- The United States.

VisionAndPsychosis.Net a private psychology project points out that a little known problem of physiology, a "conflict of physiology," allows exposure to visual Subliminal Distraction and accounts for these episodes.

http://visionandpsychosis.net/Culture_Bound_Syndromes.htm

The problem was discovered in the 1960's when it caused mental breaks for knowledge workers using the first prototypes of close-spaced office workstations. Those same circumstances can be created in primitive areas around the world when people live in small single-room traditional or ethnic housing. There have been fist fights over chess games on Russian space missions. There was a mental break on Soyuz21/Salut5. The space capsule was the single-room living and working space.

http://visionandpsychosis.net/Astronauts_Insanity.htm

L K Tucker 68.219.167.224 15:10, 6 June 2006 (UTC) reply

Randy doesnt have IED but he is well hot —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.105.45.42 ( talk) 10:57, 14 August 2009 (UTC) reply

The last section entitled "Treatment" before References says: "such as fluoxetine, fluvoxamine, and sertraline appear to alleviate some pathopsychological symptoms; the reasons for such will be explained further in the subsequent section" ?? No such explanation is given in article text. 120.21.249.71 ( talk) 08:17, 28 August 2010 (UTC)Astralian reply

Addition to the differential diagnosis section

Would it be worthwhile to add in additional conditions, such as undiagnosed, severe hyperthyroidism (with appropriate citations, of course)? Wzrd1 ( talk) 01:52, 11 September 2018 (UTC) reply

Yes. Please do. Zezen ( talk) 10:43, 6 June 2019 (UTC) reply

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Randy Orton

I am presently unable to edit this article, but I believe the "famous people who have it" section should be changed to "in popular culture," since it only includes WWE wrestler Randy Orton at this time. To my knowledge, Randy Orton has never claimed that he has IED in real life, nor did he really attack Vince McMahon. This was all kayfabe and I believe this should be made clear. Shrilldrella ( talk) 19:44, 27 January 2009 (UTC) reply

Does Randy Orton even deserve a mention at all? He doesn't have it in real life, just his onscreen character. Sykobabul ( talk) 23:22, 27 January 2009 (UTC) reply

I edited it out completely, including the "Famous people who have it". It was entirely kayfabe and he doesn't deserve a mention in a section like that. DiscipleRaynes ( talk) 05:47, 28 January 2009 (UTC) reply

Regardless of whether or not he ACTUALLY has it, I'd think that his mention of the illness is likely the most mainstream media attention this has gotten in a long while, and THAT deserves a reference. Perhaps "IED in Media" ? 24.128.53.252 ( talk) 02:38, 10 March 2009 (UTC) reply

It is REAL. Randy Orton does have IED. He has his whole life the only reson he was not put in jail longer for his discharge was because of this disorder. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.246.48.151 ( talk) 05:04, 26 March 2009 (UTC) reply

This is sooooooooo true true true true true true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Randy Orton Attacked and R.K.O.ed Steph. AND He attacked ,punted, shane and vince.-- 68.99.6.171 ( talk) 22:11, 30 March 2009 (UTC) reply

Randy Orton sucks. He really doesn't have IED. It's all fake. He just lied so he could try to sue the WWE —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.131.230.100 ( talk) 22:31, 8 April 2009 (UTC) reply

I think this deserves a mentioning. At least just say this disorder was mentioned in a storyline involving Randy Orton. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.233.116.114 ( talk) 07:19, 6 August 2009 (UTC) reply

Oh, you stupid children... arguing about a made up disease and how it affects made up characters in a fake television program... I lol'd a bit, and then decided to call you out on your stupidity. People (all people) get pissed off every once in a while. Some people get more pissed off than they should. A few people get so pissed off as to apear to have a mental problem - What do you mean we're out of butter?! I'll f-ing kill you you b-tch!! Yeah, that guy needs to up his dose... anyways, I digress... any examples taken from the World Wildlife Federation, or WWE as it is called now are absolutely absurd. Morons. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.167.168.116 ( talk) 16:35, 17 February 2010 (UTC) reply

O.k. all you ignorants that just think this is just made up, picture yourself stopping at a stop sign that seems pointless and getting pissed off to the point that you can't control your actions. You're so pissed that you have to punch, smash or just fuck something up in general just so you don't take someone's life instead. That's anger on an irrational level. That's IED, and it accompanies other mental disorders (most commonly anxiety from what I've gathered) High testosterone levels have also been known to cause this. It's more or less a side affect of another condition.

Legal defense

"It has been used as a legal defense successfully." - quoted from paragraph one with no reference. There should be some credible source for such a strong statement. Maybe a case to reference. KASSPER 03:58, 22 December 2006 (UTC) reply

Really?

Really?

I have it myself. Michael 21:57, 3 April 2006 (UTC) reply

I recently did a research project on IED. Current research is showing that it may not be as rare as once thought. My studies show that as many as 2.25-4.5 million people have IED. If you would like to find out more information, you can see Cocarro. It's only "rare" because many times it is discounted or the behavior is attributed to other diagnoses.

What crap - IED is what is commonly known as anger. This is another exmaple of researchers with too much time on their hands trying to overanalyse things. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.229.27.251 ( talk) 19:38, 14 February 2008 (UTC) reply

Uncontrollable anger ;) 68.45.219.63 ( talk) 18:30, 29 July 2008 (UTC) reply

I have a form of this which seems to be temperature-related. If the ambient temperature is above about 24 C degrees, I start to feel agitated. Over a period of time and/or increasing temperature, I start to get an irrational anger--I'll flip out at the slightest provocation. Fortunately, any violence is generally directed at inanimate objects (desk, keyboard, cups, etc.), but I do snap at people and become rather unfriendly.

Below 24 C, I'm a very level-headed and intelligent person (or so I'm told). It takes a lot to get me worked up. It really bothers me when something like this happens and I lose control over my own actions.

Once I realize this IED has started, I go and try to cool off (literally) and avoid people. Unfortunately, once it's started, it takes quite a while to subside, and I'll often have a headache afterward.

While I've only started testing recently, it also seems my body temperature goes up by about 0.4C (hardly noticeable, but higher than my average) and the back of my head feels really hot to the touch. Applying cool compresses to the back of my head provides temporary relief for the heat and some of the agitation.

I've heard a couple of people refer to this as "hot-head syndrome" and that hockey- and (American) football-players who wear helmets can be prone to this, but I have yet to find any real references to it.

(Thanks for watching, we now return you to your regularly-scheduled Wiki.) Electro1574 ( talk) 22:48, 29 January 2010 (UTC) reply

I just want to say to all the people out there that think people are looking for an excuse or something to blame it all on that there is a real threat out there of not understanding one's problem. I am 25, in the U.S. Army, a husband, and a father. I have wondered what was wrong with me for so many years, I knew I was not in control at all times and never understood what it was. I would go to work some days and not know why people acted differently around me the next day. I found out that I did things that I don't remember when I lost control of my emotions and allowed anger and aggression take control of me. I used to get into a large amount of trouble in school growing up, forcing me to see a counselor once a week to make sure I was not going to hurt anyone, go crazy in the school, or burn anything down. I have never caused property damage, but I have put several people in the hospital growing up. When I joined the military, I had not experienced an episode for some time, so I thought it was just maturity, until I reached a level of stress I have never experienced before. I was told by the medics that I had gotten upset and began to fight with others that I worked with and broke one arm, one figure, two noses, and some cracked ribs, before I was submitted by several people. I do not remember any of this, but I did have a dream of what people described to me. I contacted my brother and father to ask if there was a history of this in the family and my brother was diagnosed with it and when my father heard about this he told me that he never told me about it because he didn't want me to worry about it or he was afraid that it'd be true, our family has not had one male member that has not had this problem. It goes back as far as anyone can remember. My family has a long history of aggression, but no one has ever laid their hands on a child or woman, thank God. So, for those that think this is a joke or some excuse, please, let me assure you, there are three people in Afghanistan that are very aware that this is real that had to sustain injuries to see there was a problem. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.68.86.212 ( talk) 23:55, 21 March 2011 (UTC) reply

IED amok - going postal

The mention that some victims have amnesia of the events during the episode suggests that this is a dissociative mental break.

Culture Bound Syndromes have similar symptoms as Amok- Malaysia, and Going Postal- The United States.

VisionAndPsychosis.Net a private psychology project points out that a little known problem of physiology, a "conflict of physiology," allows exposure to visual Subliminal Distraction and accounts for these episodes.

http://visionandpsychosis.net/Culture_Bound_Syndromes.htm

The problem was discovered in the 1960's when it caused mental breaks for knowledge workers using the first prototypes of close-spaced office workstations. Those same circumstances can be created in primitive areas around the world when people live in small single-room traditional or ethnic housing. There have been fist fights over chess games on Russian space missions. There was a mental break on Soyuz21/Salut5. The space capsule was the single-room living and working space.

http://visionandpsychosis.net/Astronauts_Insanity.htm

L K Tucker 68.219.167.224 15:10, 6 June 2006 (UTC) reply

Randy doesnt have IED but he is well hot —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.105.45.42 ( talk) 10:57, 14 August 2009 (UTC) reply

The last section entitled "Treatment" before References says: "such as fluoxetine, fluvoxamine, and sertraline appear to alleviate some pathopsychological symptoms; the reasons for such will be explained further in the subsequent section" ?? No such explanation is given in article text. 120.21.249.71 ( talk) 08:17, 28 August 2010 (UTC)Astralian reply

Addition to the differential diagnosis section

Would it be worthwhile to add in additional conditions, such as undiagnosed, severe hyperthyroidism (with appropriate citations, of course)? Wzrd1 ( talk) 01:52, 11 September 2018 (UTC) reply

Yes. Please do. Zezen ( talk) 10:43, 6 June 2019 (UTC) reply


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