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The result of the move request was: moved. Andrewa ( talk) 08:44, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
Abraham ben Jacob → ? – According to the opening sentence, Abraham ben Jacob was better known under his Arabic name of Ibrâhîm ibn Ya`qûb al-Tartushi. WP:COMMONNAME says we should name things using "the name that is most frequently used to refer to the subject in English-language reliable sources". I would argue that any of the Arabic redirects to this article (Ibrahim ibn Jakub, Ibrahim ibn Jaqub, Ibrahim ibn Yaqub al-Tartushi, Ibrahim ibn Yaqub, Íbrahím ibn Jaqúb, Ibrahim Ibn Jacub, Ibrahim ibn Jacub, Ibrahim ibn Ahmed At-Tartûschi, Ibrahim ibn Ya'kub, or Ibrāhīm ibn Yaʿqūb al-IsrāʾAīlī al-Turṭushi) is a better name than the current Hebrew name. For simplicity's sake, I personally favor Ibrahim ibn Yaqub as it involves no diacritics or unusual spellings. What do other editors think? — Malik Shabazz Talk/ Stalk 01:23, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
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*'''Support'''or*'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.
- Support a move from the current title which is definitely a rare spelling of his name. Ibrahim ibn Yaqub is fine with me although Ibrahim ibn Ya'qub is more common in some Google Book searches. (See these Google Ngram results for examples; I did not include the current title is not included due to the large number of false positives—there are many other Abraham ben Jacobs [1].) — AjaxSmack 04:48, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
- Support Ibrahim ibn Yaqub as simplest spelling among the native name variants. — JFG talk 01:37, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
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User:Malik Shabazz, I had a look at updating the lede to comply to the MOS after the move, but I decided I'd just make a mess if I tried (despite speaking a little Turkish!).
Could you handle this (either personally or by delegation), or should I raise it with an appropriate WikiProject or similar? TIA Andrewa ( talk) 08:55, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
On the map, "Mohuč" is the Czech name for the German city Mainz. Acwilson9 ( talk) 05:43, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
The map is inconsistent with the article content, since the journey shown there does not start from his native town, Tolosa, does not enter into Poland (although he could have talked of it as per stories heard, which is unlikely), does not cross Italy and shows a "return" to Cordoba whereas the article states that nothing is known of his travelling back. 194.78.194.24 ( talk) 18:48, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
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- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: moved. Andrewa ( talk) 08:44, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
Abraham ben Jacob → ? – According to the opening sentence, Abraham ben Jacob was better known under his Arabic name of Ibrâhîm ibn Ya`qûb al-Tartushi. WP:COMMONNAME says we should name things using "the name that is most frequently used to refer to the subject in English-language reliable sources". I would argue that any of the Arabic redirects to this article (Ibrahim ibn Jakub, Ibrahim ibn Jaqub, Ibrahim ibn Yaqub al-Tartushi, Ibrahim ibn Yaqub, Íbrahím ibn Jaqúb, Ibrahim Ibn Jacub, Ibrahim ibn Jacub, Ibrahim ibn Ahmed At-Tartûschi, Ibrahim ibn Ya'kub, or Ibrāhīm ibn Yaʿqūb al-IsrāʾAīlī al-Turṭushi) is a better name than the current Hebrew name. For simplicity's sake, I personally favor Ibrahim ibn Yaqub as it involves no diacritics or unusual spellings. What do other editors think? — Malik Shabazz Talk/ Stalk 01:23, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
Survey
- Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with
*'''Support'''or*'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.
- Support a move from the current title which is definitely a rare spelling of his name. Ibrahim ibn Yaqub is fine with me although Ibrahim ibn Ya'qub is more common in some Google Book searches. (See these Google Ngram results for examples; I did not include the current title is not included due to the large number of false positives—there are many other Abraham ben Jacobs [1].) — AjaxSmack 04:48, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
- Support Ibrahim ibn Yaqub as simplest spelling among the native name variants. — JFG talk 01:37, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
Discussion
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- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
User:Malik Shabazz, I had a look at updating the lede to comply to the MOS after the move, but I decided I'd just make a mess if I tried (despite speaking a little Turkish!).
Could you handle this (either personally or by delegation), or should I raise it with an appropriate WikiProject or similar? TIA Andrewa ( talk) 08:55, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
On the map, "Mohuč" is the Czech name for the German city Mainz. Acwilson9 ( talk) 05:43, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
The map is inconsistent with the article content, since the journey shown there does not start from his native town, Tolosa, does not enter into Poland (although he could have talked of it as per stories heard, which is unlikely), does not cross Italy and shows a "return" to Cordoba whereas the article states that nothing is known of his travelling back. 194.78.194.24 ( talk) 18:48, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
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