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Linux has been successfully ran on the iPhone (in limited fashion). Is this notable content? [1] http://blog.iphone-dev.org/post/62041396/linux-here-we-come [2] http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/11/28/iphone_dev_team_successfully_boots_linux_on_iphone.html Altonbr ( talk) 06:30, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
CECT (iPhone Copies) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.174.37.50 ( talk) 18:11, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
Shouldn't the search 'iPhone 2G' redirect here? I searched it and no resaults were found. Since the iPhone 3G is actually the 2nd generation iPhone, I thought it would redirect. It is beyond my knowledge to add, could someone else do it? Xanthic-Ztk ( talk) 23:29, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Voice dialing IS supported by the iPhone using 3rd party apps, e.g."Say Who" and 'Vlingo'.
Also, the SIM lock not only blocks use of other carriers, but use of non-iPhone plans; an AT&T user cannot use an iPhone with their non-iPhone AT&T SIM unless they jailbreak the iPhone.--
67.169.82.244 (
talk) 02:44, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
In general, making separate sections containing negative evaluations with the title "Criticism" is discouraged by some editors, although there is no consensus on the issue.
I believe the outstanding dispute is over MobileMe. I content that this service is not "THE email service for the iphone," as Danalpha31 does. The iPhone will support any POP3 or IMAP service, including Yahoo!, Gmail, and Microsoft Exchange in addition to MobileMe. The issues withMobileMe affected the service as a whole, not just on iPhones. It should be included - in the MobileMe article.-- HereToHelp ( talk to me) 22:00, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
yall are just making excuses for apple to keep this information from new iphone buyers. i will go over your heads to get this information in if i have to Danalpha31 ( talk) 18:20, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
your argument is wrong. largely irrelevant facts that lack perspective. an unbiased judge will decide in my favor. respect criticism!!! don't whitewash Danalpha31 ( talk) 01:31, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
its only a matter of time. too bad for all the suckers Danalpha31 ( talk) 08:03, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
no thanks to you Danalpha31 ( talk) 08:04, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
Imagine a world in which every single person on the planet is given free access to the sum of all human knowledge. That's our commitment. - Jimmys Wales. BS!!! NOT IN THIS TOPIC!!!!!! Danalpha31 ( talk) 06:35, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
that needs to be changed. (the picture) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.172.149.113 ( talk) 05:40, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
The Apple iPhone contains baseband processor (PMB8876 S-Gold 2 multimedia engine with EDGE functionality) and GSM RF transceiver chips supplied by Infineon<ref>[http://www.techonline.com/product/underthehood/200001814 "Under the Hood: Inside the Apple iPhone", ''TechOnline'']July 01, 2007</ref>. Andries ( talk) 07:17, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
i wonder ???? Danalpha31 ( talk) 08:07, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
Second paragraph.
The history section needs to be immediately after the lead.
The iPhone was initially released with two options for internal storage size; either: a 4 GB or 8 GB flash drive both manufactured by
Samsung) model was available. On September 5, 2007, Apple announced they were discontinuing the 4 GB models.[30] On February 5, 2008, Apple announced the addition of a released the 16 GB model to the iPhone iPhone's lineup.[31] The iPhone does not contain any memory card slots for expanded extra storage.
Done.-- HereToHelp ( talk to me) 02:56, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
The rest of the sections need thorough copyediting, because some sentences and grammar don't make any sense. miranda 09:12, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
miranda 04:44, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for all of your insightful comments. I'm busy in real life, but I promise I'll address everything here (either implement or argue why it shouldn't be). Just give me a week or two - but I am committed to making iPhone a GA. Thanks, -- HereToHelp ( talk to me) 22:16, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
I've removed the part about breaking the TPMs being legal due to the 'connecting to a telephone network' exception. This isn't actually true - although the exception exists, jailbreaking isn't for the purpose of connecting to a telephone network. It's for the purpose of modifying the phone's software. Unlocking (ie modifying the phone for use with a network other than AT&T (US), O2 (UK, etc.) is covered by the exemption, jailbreaking is not. The cited source isn't relevant, because it is simply a document stating that the 'connecting to a telephone network' exemption exists, not a source saying that the exemption applies to iPhone jailbreaking. Cynical ( talk) 11:45, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
It says that Grameen is in "Bangladesh, India", but Bangladesh isn't in India. It's a SEPARATE COUNTRY!! I'm a Bangladeshi-American, so I'd know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.190.8.55 ( talk) 23:46, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
{{ editsemiprotected}} Under audio can someone add the following:
The internal microphone on the first generation iphone is limited to an audio frequency of 4kHz (it is limited by a filter even if you record at a higher rate). The external earbud microphone on the original ipod and both microphones on the 3G have a frequency range up to 20kHz (44.1 kHz sampling rate).
Wayneconnor ( talk) 21:49, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
According to an SMS sent to Telkomsel customers, iPhone will be available in Indonesia soon. I will find a source to back this up in English/translated to English. w.tanoto-soegiri ( talk) 11:51, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
{{
editsemiprotected}}
From 1st January 2009 it has been possible to remove the SIM lock from the iPhone 3G using yellowsn0w
[6]. Still in beta release this tool will unlock jailbroken iPhones running baseband 02.28.00
Tombsc (
talk) 12:48, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
Why is there no coverage of the False Advertising Ruling from the UK?
http://search.live.com/results.aspx?q=false+advertising+uk+iphone&go=&form=QBLH
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/iPhone-ad-UK-ASA,news-29046.html
"UK iPhone Ad Banned for False Advertising"
"The Authority banned the ad following complaints that it allowed users to fully browse the web with access to “all parts of the Internet,” despite that fact that the handset does not support Java or Flash. The 30 second advertisement includes a voice-over detailing what “parts” of the net you might need, finishing up with the claim that the iPhone has it all."
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.178.97.233 ( talk • contribs) 19:38, 11 September 2008
The reason there is no coverage of the False Advertising Ruling from the UK is that the editors and normal contributors to this topic keep it clean of any news that puts apple in a bad light. they are apple apologists. they whitewash bad news about apple to make is seem better. they hide bad information about apple. by disbursing it to various parts of the topic and to other topics. Danalpha31 ( talk) 10:34, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
hmmm, i wonder why it wasn't added before. cnn even covered it. just not the people here. Danalpha31 ( talk) 20:31, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
awww :( what about everyone else!!!! Danalpha31 ( talk) 20:44, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
i wonder if yall would have ever added it on your own. hmmm Danalpha31 ( talk) 20:50, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
this is supposed to be one of the good articles. HA!!!! Danalpha31 ( talk) 20:38, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
The iPhone is also known as the "Jesus Phone" in some of the online world. Sites using this phrase frequently include The Register (www.theregister.co.uk) and www.gizmondo.com.
Specific examples are: http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/macworld2007/exclusive-apple-iphone-360-degree-gallery-50-photos-of-the-jesus-phone-227486.php http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/07/24/iphone_security_vulnerability/
The Economist, msnbc and other sites acknowledge this is a term that is used in the online world : http://www.economist.com/business/displaystory.cfm?story_id=9443542 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19297486/
An online (blogging) site has even made a satirical video due to the name : http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/08/3-weeks-until-the-iphone-goes-on-sale/
The online world's use of "Jesus Phone" should be included somewhere in the article - the article seems to be protected. 86.164.181.80 ( talk) 13:51, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
86.164.181.80 ( talk) 22:13, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Are the Apple fanboys who control the editing of the article going to include this information - if not, why not? 89.243.153.99 ( talk) 01:45, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
The name "Jesus Phone" is not an "also known as." Rather, it is more of a sarcastic gesture on the part of writers and others who despise the device for its popularity. Reading Barack Obama's article, I don't see any references to Jesus, The Messiah, "walking on water", "splitting the sea", etc. despite many people making these references. The reference to Jesus doesn't belong here because it is basically a reference made to make the iPhone look bad. It is sarcasm, and sarcasm doesn't belong on Wikipedia. Groink ( talk) 05:05, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
I would like to add a 'recycling initiatives' subheading to the iphone wikipedia page. Electronic waste is becoming a huge world-wide problem. Since Apple did not design its batteries to be replaceable, the iphone device itself is rather disposeable. This presents an e-waste problem. I would like the subheading to read as follows:
Since the battery inside the iphone and ipod is not easily replaceable, the devices are rather disposable and have created a large electronic waste problem. The contents of the iphone, such as the lithium battery, can be potentially toxic if not properly recycled. Recent initiatives have been taken to recycle and reuse both iphones and ipods. [7] www.Cashforiphones.com believes in the importance of recycling iphones and ipods. The website buys used or broken iphones and ipods in an initiative to prevent dangerous electronic waste from discarded electronic devices.
Electronicguru1 ( talk) 21:58, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
Oh, now I see why my content got slapped down. I have a bunch more to add here from my expansion of computer recycling. I can add/reinsert this content without mentioning the third parties, but it seems like there is enough to make a spinout article as well. JJB 18:39, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
{{RFCsci| section=Rfc: Should this content be included? !! reason=Editor claims an impartial judge will agree that he is not disregarding any Wikipedia policies or guidelines with the inclusion of material two other established editors disagree with. !! time= 00:44, 9 March 2009 (UTC) }}nowiki tags added at close to remove from category but leave reason visible. -- Abd ( talk) 21:27, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
iphone and itunes IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH WIN XP 64 bit VISTA 64 is now supported. I am an Iphone technical support rep with Apple this info can be confirmed at apple.com/itunes or apple.com/iphone —Preceding unsigned comment added by Matthewcheddarmurphy ( talk • contribs) 19:45, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
picky, picky, picky. you should know if apple doesn't say they support it, it's UNSUPPORTED. Danalpha31 ( talk) 05:04, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
but what does apple say Danalpha31 ( talk) 20:32, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
so now you can rely on your reliable sources. when before yall removed things you knew were true Danalpha31 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:34, 3 March 2009 (UTC).
then don't misuse the wikipedia policies to remove things you know are true Danalpha31 ( talk) 20:53, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
there are or will be news sources that discuss and explain the safari crash problem. the question is will the normal editors and contributors put that information in this topic. like i said before, it's just a matter of time. Danalpha31 ( talk) 23:17, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
The test is are the normal editors and contributors going to add it or just whitewash. Danalpha31 ( talk) 00:28, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
I've only tried to add one paragraph. That is not a normal contributor to this topic. THIS IS THE DISCUSSION PAGE, NOT THE TOPIC. Danalpha31 ( talk) 04:13, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
to see what kind of people are editing this page. to make sure yall are including relevant and important information Danalpha31 ( talk) 17:20, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
the same reason —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.178.97.233 ( talk • contribs) 19:38, 11 September 2008 wrote on the discussion page Why is there no coverage of the False Advertising Ruling from the UK? Danalpha31 ( talk) 17:23, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
without me the mobileme problem would not exist in wikipedia. without me the 3g chipset problem on release of the iphone 3g would not exist in wikipedia. without me yall would ignore the safari browser crash problem Danalpha31 ( talk) 14:13, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
thou dost protest too much. just look at the various iphone articles that summarize the iphone's problems. many of the mention the mobileme problem. they think it belongs with the iphone. why don't you? like i said, an impartial judge will rule in my favor Danalpha31 ( talk) 19:40, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
here's one news article that was on google news. http://www.crn.com/software/215801096 the author seems to think mobileme problems belong in an iphone article. i wonder why? Danalpha31 ( talk) 20:26, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure if you guys are still discussing whether or not iTunes is supported on 64 bit Windows XP, but here is an Apple document that says it isn't: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1426 This is certainly a reliable source.-- agr ( talk) 22:20, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
I came to this RfC, as an uninvolved editor, because of the listing at Template:RFCsci_list. The RfC was inadequately presented, with an incoherent discussion arguing wiki principles without specific foundation. That may have been due to an editor requesting RfC as a "shut up" move. Please do not waste the community's time requesting comment on a proposal you do not support. No specific text was asserted. It was claimed that usable source was removed from the article, but there was no reference to it. General principles were proclaimed as controlling that are not of universal application. ( WP:V may be assumed to be universal, normally, WP:RS is more conditional, that's the difference between a policy and a guideline.) At the end, above, a reliable source is asserted for a certain statement, but the application to the existing text is unclear and, again, wasn't specified. However, the source may make the RfC moot, it seems to be founded on a lack of reliable source but an editor asserting personal knowledge. I'm closing this RfC for these defects, without any conclusion, and without prejudice against further process or edits, and I'm removing the RfC tag. I'm doing this because, as it stands, the RfC just wastes the time of editors who look at it, and the present issue is unclear. If someone has a remaining issue, I suggest that they begin a new RfC, and take care to present the issues so that they are clear and specific, and avoid tendentious back-and-forth debate in the RfC. Presumably, before an RfC is set up, the issues have been discussed already and positions should be as clear as possible. If not, please don't set up an RfC until dispute resolution has been followed and failed to find consensus with less outside involvement. -- Abd ( talk) 21:27, 22 March 2009 (UTC)}}
Hey, just another quick note that the map needs updating. Someone added South Korea yesterday, but Qatar and Israel still need to be changed to blue, and Guam and Uganda also need to be added, per [8]. I lack the know-how to do SVGs (can only edit PNGs) so if someone could do it when they get around to it... Cheers! Bernerd ( talk) 04:53, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
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Linux has been successfully ran on the iPhone (in limited fashion). Is this notable content? [1] http://blog.iphone-dev.org/post/62041396/linux-here-we-come [2] http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/11/28/iphone_dev_team_successfully_boots_linux_on_iphone.html Altonbr ( talk) 06:30, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
CECT (iPhone Copies) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.174.37.50 ( talk) 18:11, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
Shouldn't the search 'iPhone 2G' redirect here? I searched it and no resaults were found. Since the iPhone 3G is actually the 2nd generation iPhone, I thought it would redirect. It is beyond my knowledge to add, could someone else do it? Xanthic-Ztk ( talk) 23:29, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Voice dialing IS supported by the iPhone using 3rd party apps, e.g."Say Who" and 'Vlingo'.
Also, the SIM lock not only blocks use of other carriers, but use of non-iPhone plans; an AT&T user cannot use an iPhone with their non-iPhone AT&T SIM unless they jailbreak the iPhone.--
67.169.82.244 (
talk) 02:44, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
In general, making separate sections containing negative evaluations with the title "Criticism" is discouraged by some editors, although there is no consensus on the issue.
I believe the outstanding dispute is over MobileMe. I content that this service is not "THE email service for the iphone," as Danalpha31 does. The iPhone will support any POP3 or IMAP service, including Yahoo!, Gmail, and Microsoft Exchange in addition to MobileMe. The issues withMobileMe affected the service as a whole, not just on iPhones. It should be included - in the MobileMe article.-- HereToHelp ( talk to me) 22:00, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
yall are just making excuses for apple to keep this information from new iphone buyers. i will go over your heads to get this information in if i have to Danalpha31 ( talk) 18:20, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
your argument is wrong. largely irrelevant facts that lack perspective. an unbiased judge will decide in my favor. respect criticism!!! don't whitewash Danalpha31 ( talk) 01:31, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
its only a matter of time. too bad for all the suckers Danalpha31 ( talk) 08:03, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
no thanks to you Danalpha31 ( talk) 08:04, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
Imagine a world in which every single person on the planet is given free access to the sum of all human knowledge. That's our commitment. - Jimmys Wales. BS!!! NOT IN THIS TOPIC!!!!!! Danalpha31 ( talk) 06:35, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
that needs to be changed. (the picture) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.172.149.113 ( talk) 05:40, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
The Apple iPhone contains baseband processor (PMB8876 S-Gold 2 multimedia engine with EDGE functionality) and GSM RF transceiver chips supplied by Infineon<ref>[http://www.techonline.com/product/underthehood/200001814 "Under the Hood: Inside the Apple iPhone", ''TechOnline'']July 01, 2007</ref>. Andries ( talk) 07:17, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
i wonder ???? Danalpha31 ( talk) 08:07, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
Second paragraph.
The history section needs to be immediately after the lead.
The iPhone was initially released with two options for internal storage size; either: a 4 GB or 8 GB flash drive both manufactured by
Samsung) model was available. On September 5, 2007, Apple announced they were discontinuing the 4 GB models.[30] On February 5, 2008, Apple announced the addition of a released the 16 GB model to the iPhone iPhone's lineup.[31] The iPhone does not contain any memory card slots for expanded extra storage.
Done.-- HereToHelp ( talk to me) 02:56, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
The rest of the sections need thorough copyediting, because some sentences and grammar don't make any sense. miranda 09:12, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
miranda 04:44, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for all of your insightful comments. I'm busy in real life, but I promise I'll address everything here (either implement or argue why it shouldn't be). Just give me a week or two - but I am committed to making iPhone a GA. Thanks, -- HereToHelp ( talk to me) 22:16, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
I've removed the part about breaking the TPMs being legal due to the 'connecting to a telephone network' exception. This isn't actually true - although the exception exists, jailbreaking isn't for the purpose of connecting to a telephone network. It's for the purpose of modifying the phone's software. Unlocking (ie modifying the phone for use with a network other than AT&T (US), O2 (UK, etc.) is covered by the exemption, jailbreaking is not. The cited source isn't relevant, because it is simply a document stating that the 'connecting to a telephone network' exemption exists, not a source saying that the exemption applies to iPhone jailbreaking. Cynical ( talk) 11:45, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
It says that Grameen is in "Bangladesh, India", but Bangladesh isn't in India. It's a SEPARATE COUNTRY!! I'm a Bangladeshi-American, so I'd know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.190.8.55 ( talk) 23:46, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
{{ editsemiprotected}} Under audio can someone add the following:
The internal microphone on the first generation iphone is limited to an audio frequency of 4kHz (it is limited by a filter even if you record at a higher rate). The external earbud microphone on the original ipod and both microphones on the 3G have a frequency range up to 20kHz (44.1 kHz sampling rate).
Wayneconnor ( talk) 21:49, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
According to an SMS sent to Telkomsel customers, iPhone will be available in Indonesia soon. I will find a source to back this up in English/translated to English. w.tanoto-soegiri ( talk) 11:51, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
{{
editsemiprotected}}
From 1st January 2009 it has been possible to remove the SIM lock from the iPhone 3G using yellowsn0w
[6]. Still in beta release this tool will unlock jailbroken iPhones running baseband 02.28.00
Tombsc (
talk) 12:48, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
Why is there no coverage of the False Advertising Ruling from the UK?
http://search.live.com/results.aspx?q=false+advertising+uk+iphone&go=&form=QBLH
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/iPhone-ad-UK-ASA,news-29046.html
"UK iPhone Ad Banned for False Advertising"
"The Authority banned the ad following complaints that it allowed users to fully browse the web with access to “all parts of the Internet,” despite that fact that the handset does not support Java or Flash. The 30 second advertisement includes a voice-over detailing what “parts” of the net you might need, finishing up with the claim that the iPhone has it all."
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.178.97.233 ( talk • contribs) 19:38, 11 September 2008
The reason there is no coverage of the False Advertising Ruling from the UK is that the editors and normal contributors to this topic keep it clean of any news that puts apple in a bad light. they are apple apologists. they whitewash bad news about apple to make is seem better. they hide bad information about apple. by disbursing it to various parts of the topic and to other topics. Danalpha31 ( talk) 10:34, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
hmmm, i wonder why it wasn't added before. cnn even covered it. just not the people here. Danalpha31 ( talk) 20:31, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
awww :( what about everyone else!!!! Danalpha31 ( talk) 20:44, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
i wonder if yall would have ever added it on your own. hmmm Danalpha31 ( talk) 20:50, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
this is supposed to be one of the good articles. HA!!!! Danalpha31 ( talk) 20:38, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
The iPhone is also known as the "Jesus Phone" in some of the online world. Sites using this phrase frequently include The Register (www.theregister.co.uk) and www.gizmondo.com.
Specific examples are: http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/macworld2007/exclusive-apple-iphone-360-degree-gallery-50-photos-of-the-jesus-phone-227486.php http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/07/24/iphone_security_vulnerability/
The Economist, msnbc and other sites acknowledge this is a term that is used in the online world : http://www.economist.com/business/displaystory.cfm?story_id=9443542 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19297486/
An online (blogging) site has even made a satirical video due to the name : http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/08/3-weeks-until-the-iphone-goes-on-sale/
The online world's use of "Jesus Phone" should be included somewhere in the article - the article seems to be protected. 86.164.181.80 ( talk) 13:51, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
86.164.181.80 ( talk) 22:13, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Are the Apple fanboys who control the editing of the article going to include this information - if not, why not? 89.243.153.99 ( talk) 01:45, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
The name "Jesus Phone" is not an "also known as." Rather, it is more of a sarcastic gesture on the part of writers and others who despise the device for its popularity. Reading Barack Obama's article, I don't see any references to Jesus, The Messiah, "walking on water", "splitting the sea", etc. despite many people making these references. The reference to Jesus doesn't belong here because it is basically a reference made to make the iPhone look bad. It is sarcasm, and sarcasm doesn't belong on Wikipedia. Groink ( talk) 05:05, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
I would like to add a 'recycling initiatives' subheading to the iphone wikipedia page. Electronic waste is becoming a huge world-wide problem. Since Apple did not design its batteries to be replaceable, the iphone device itself is rather disposeable. This presents an e-waste problem. I would like the subheading to read as follows:
Since the battery inside the iphone and ipod is not easily replaceable, the devices are rather disposable and have created a large electronic waste problem. The contents of the iphone, such as the lithium battery, can be potentially toxic if not properly recycled. Recent initiatives have been taken to recycle and reuse both iphones and ipods. [7] www.Cashforiphones.com believes in the importance of recycling iphones and ipods. The website buys used or broken iphones and ipods in an initiative to prevent dangerous electronic waste from discarded electronic devices.
Electronicguru1 ( talk) 21:58, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
Oh, now I see why my content got slapped down. I have a bunch more to add here from my expansion of computer recycling. I can add/reinsert this content without mentioning the third parties, but it seems like there is enough to make a spinout article as well. JJB 18:39, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
{{RFCsci| section=Rfc: Should this content be included? !! reason=Editor claims an impartial judge will agree that he is not disregarding any Wikipedia policies or guidelines with the inclusion of material two other established editors disagree with. !! time= 00:44, 9 March 2009 (UTC) }}nowiki tags added at close to remove from category but leave reason visible. -- Abd ( talk) 21:27, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
iphone and itunes IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH WIN XP 64 bit VISTA 64 is now supported. I am an Iphone technical support rep with Apple this info can be confirmed at apple.com/itunes or apple.com/iphone —Preceding unsigned comment added by Matthewcheddarmurphy ( talk • contribs) 19:45, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
picky, picky, picky. you should know if apple doesn't say they support it, it's UNSUPPORTED. Danalpha31 ( talk) 05:04, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
but what does apple say Danalpha31 ( talk) 20:32, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
so now you can rely on your reliable sources. when before yall removed things you knew were true Danalpha31 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:34, 3 March 2009 (UTC).
then don't misuse the wikipedia policies to remove things you know are true Danalpha31 ( talk) 20:53, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
there are or will be news sources that discuss and explain the safari crash problem. the question is will the normal editors and contributors put that information in this topic. like i said before, it's just a matter of time. Danalpha31 ( talk) 23:17, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
The test is are the normal editors and contributors going to add it or just whitewash. Danalpha31 ( talk) 00:28, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
I've only tried to add one paragraph. That is not a normal contributor to this topic. THIS IS THE DISCUSSION PAGE, NOT THE TOPIC. Danalpha31 ( talk) 04:13, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
to see what kind of people are editing this page. to make sure yall are including relevant and important information Danalpha31 ( talk) 17:20, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
the same reason —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.178.97.233 ( talk • contribs) 19:38, 11 September 2008 wrote on the discussion page Why is there no coverage of the False Advertising Ruling from the UK? Danalpha31 ( talk) 17:23, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
without me the mobileme problem would not exist in wikipedia. without me the 3g chipset problem on release of the iphone 3g would not exist in wikipedia. without me yall would ignore the safari browser crash problem Danalpha31 ( talk) 14:13, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
thou dost protest too much. just look at the various iphone articles that summarize the iphone's problems. many of the mention the mobileme problem. they think it belongs with the iphone. why don't you? like i said, an impartial judge will rule in my favor Danalpha31 ( talk) 19:40, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
here's one news article that was on google news. http://www.crn.com/software/215801096 the author seems to think mobileme problems belong in an iphone article. i wonder why? Danalpha31 ( talk) 20:26, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure if you guys are still discussing whether or not iTunes is supported on 64 bit Windows XP, but here is an Apple document that says it isn't: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1426 This is certainly a reliable source.-- agr ( talk) 22:20, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
I came to this RfC, as an uninvolved editor, because of the listing at Template:RFCsci_list. The RfC was inadequately presented, with an incoherent discussion arguing wiki principles without specific foundation. That may have been due to an editor requesting RfC as a "shut up" move. Please do not waste the community's time requesting comment on a proposal you do not support. No specific text was asserted. It was claimed that usable source was removed from the article, but there was no reference to it. General principles were proclaimed as controlling that are not of universal application. ( WP:V may be assumed to be universal, normally, WP:RS is more conditional, that's the difference between a policy and a guideline.) At the end, above, a reliable source is asserted for a certain statement, but the application to the existing text is unclear and, again, wasn't specified. However, the source may make the RfC moot, it seems to be founded on a lack of reliable source but an editor asserting personal knowledge. I'm closing this RfC for these defects, without any conclusion, and without prejudice against further process or edits, and I'm removing the RfC tag. I'm doing this because, as it stands, the RfC just wastes the time of editors who look at it, and the present issue is unclear. If someone has a remaining issue, I suggest that they begin a new RfC, and take care to present the issues so that they are clear and specific, and avoid tendentious back-and-forth debate in the RfC. Presumably, before an RfC is set up, the issues have been discussed already and positions should be as clear as possible. If not, please don't set up an RfC until dispute resolution has been followed and failed to find consensus with less outside involvement. -- Abd ( talk) 21:27, 22 March 2009 (UTC)}}
Hey, just another quick note that the map needs updating. Someone added South Korea yesterday, but Qatar and Israel still need to be changed to blue, and Guam and Uganda also need to be added, per [8]. I lack the know-how to do SVGs (can only edit PNGs) so if someone could do it when they get around to it... Cheers! Bernerd ( talk) 04:53, 2 January 2010 (UTC)