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I am confused by the following three sentences which appear almost one after the other.

"One of the most important events was the abolition of slavery in 1835"
"in order to work as indentured laborers after slavery was abolished in 1833"
"When slavery was abolished in 1834"

Avihu 19:00, 15 July 2007 (UTC) reply


According to this [1]:

The Slavery Abolition Bill 1833 was passed by the House of Commons and by the House of Lords.

It received the Royal Assent (which means it became law) on 29 August 1833 and came into force on 1 August 1834. On that date slavery was abolished throughout the vast British Empire.

There were a number of exceptions.

First, its application to the Colony of the Cape of Good Hope (now the Cape Province of the Republic of South Africa) was delayed for 4 months and its application to the Colony of Mauritius (now the Republic of Mauritius) was delayed for 6 months.

Then, there is this [2]:

The abolition of slavery had some negative effects on the development of Mauritius. Manpower for construction and plantations had to be found elsewhere. In 1816, Governor Farquhar introduced a group of Indian convicts for employment in construction works. Mauritian planters followed the example given by Farquhar, and in 1829 introduced Indian contract labourers for the development of the sugar industry. In 1816, Governor Farquhar introduced a group of Indian convicts for employment in construction works. Mauritian planters followed the example given by Farquhar, and in 1829 introduced Indian contract labourers for the development of the sugar industry. By 1833, administrative procedures were set up by the Government in connection with the emigration of Indian labourers. The first main inflow of Indian labourers under contract arrived in Mauritius on 1st August 1834.

Hope it helps.

Ǣ0 ƞS 19:40, 15 July 2007 (UTC) reply

Thanks, that explains everything, but it should be also written in the article itself clearly.
And while we are about confusing sentences the first sentence of the article state:
"It has been frequently hypothesized that Mauritius was first discovered by the Arabs but this is without proof."
This contrast with the main article about Mauritius which state:
"The first record of Mauritius comes from Arab and Malay sailors as early as the tenth century. [1]
And the following sentences from the article about Rodrigues:
"From the 10th century, Arabs have been known to visit the Mascarene Islands. A 12th century map by the Arab geographer Ash-Sharif al-Idrisi, clearly shows the three islands of the Mascarenes as Dina Arobi (Mauritius), Dina Margabin ( Réunion) and Dina Moraze (Rodrigues). The island was named after the Portuguese navigator Dom Diogo Rodrigues in 1528."
Avihu 04:54, 16 July 2007 (UTC) reply
Thats the problem when editors don't cite their sources. The Rodrigues article also has this contradiction: "Rodrigues, named after the Portuguese explorer Diego Rodrigues, is one of the Mascarene Islands." (Intro) while in the History section its: "The island was named after the Portuguese navigator Dom Diogo Rodrigues in 1528."
In fact, if no reliable sources can be found for this: "It has been frequently hypothesized that Mauritius was first discovered by the Arabs but this is without proof.", it should be removed since it is speculative in nature.
As for the CIA reference, although it may be deemed reliable because it comes from the CIA, it is not since it is vague, i.e, it says "the first records", but what records? Are they manuscripts? Who authored these records? The Arabs themselves, European sailors or a contemporary scholar? Also, the CIA entries will be more concerned about current data than ancient history that is of no use for its purposes.
I found this: http://www.oldmaps.mu/History/Arabs.htm and the good thing is that it also cites its own references.
Then, this (But no citations of its own references): http://www.mauritius.org.uk/History.htm
Another: http://lcweb2.loc.gov/frd/cs/mutoc.html It is a table of contents. Can't give exact sections because of this:

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Ǣ0 ƞS 07:19, 16 July 2007 (UTC) reply

Notes and references

  1. ^ "CIA - The World Factbook -- Mauritius". CIA. Retrieved 2007-05-04.

Ebony bark?

I'm confused as to why the BARK of ebony trees would have any appreciable value. Ebony bark is consistently mentioned on the page, where one would assume that the wood itself is the intended subject:

Those who landed on the island freely cut and took with them the precious bark of the Ebony trees, then found in profusion all over the island.
His successor was Adriaan van der Stel who began the development in earnest, developing the export of Ebony bark.
Clearing of large swaths of forests for Ebony bark exploitation

An Internet search revealed no particular references to any value ascribed to the bark of ebony trees. Remarkable, one of the top hits was the History of Mauritius page!

I propose these instances be changed, simply striking the "bark (of)". Additionally, ebony should appear without capitalization.

-- Fyo ( talk) 21:40, 17 March 2010 (UTC) reply

Bird section

While the dodo bird is quite pretty it is completely irrelevant to the history of Mauritius. What about some actual images of Mauritius instead of some silly bird? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.91.66.161 ( talk) 22:41, 27 April 2013 (UTC) reply

If you want to add some, go ahead, but do not remove the dodo pic. Reliable sources include it as relevant to the history of Mauritius, so no offense, but we have to take their word over yours. Til Eulenspiegel / talk/ 00:05, 28 April 2013 (UTC) reply

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conquest of isle de france'

introduction The strong strategic position of isle de france convinced the british government that to succeed in india ,it was crucial to take over the island.

The French who enjoyed the monopoly of using isle de france as a naval base had challenged the british supremacy in india.Thus to prevent the French from attacking them in india and to be able to create their empire.it was important to take over isle de france.


French corsairs were attacking british ships in indian ocean.trading goods were stolen on their way to india and this caused losses to britishand also impoverished the british trade.

Right. Then the English banned slavery and started an embargo off the ivory Coast trying to interfere with the Atlantic slave trade, but that's another article Elinruby ( talk) 09:56, 12 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Mauritius Railways - The Governor's Carriage

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Mauritius

tous ban mauricien bizin protez zot pays. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.136.181.132 ( talk) 17:19, 14 January 2018 (UTC) reply

Ben sûr Elinruby ( talk) 09:51, 12 December 2022 (UTC) reply

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July 2007

I am confused by the following three sentences which appear almost one after the other.

"One of the most important events was the abolition of slavery in 1835"
"in order to work as indentured laborers after slavery was abolished in 1833"
"When slavery was abolished in 1834"

Avihu 19:00, 15 July 2007 (UTC) reply


According to this [1]:

The Slavery Abolition Bill 1833 was passed by the House of Commons and by the House of Lords.

It received the Royal Assent (which means it became law) on 29 August 1833 and came into force on 1 August 1834. On that date slavery was abolished throughout the vast British Empire.

There were a number of exceptions.

First, its application to the Colony of the Cape of Good Hope (now the Cape Province of the Republic of South Africa) was delayed for 4 months and its application to the Colony of Mauritius (now the Republic of Mauritius) was delayed for 6 months.

Then, there is this [2]:

The abolition of slavery had some negative effects on the development of Mauritius. Manpower for construction and plantations had to be found elsewhere. In 1816, Governor Farquhar introduced a group of Indian convicts for employment in construction works. Mauritian planters followed the example given by Farquhar, and in 1829 introduced Indian contract labourers for the development of the sugar industry. In 1816, Governor Farquhar introduced a group of Indian convicts for employment in construction works. Mauritian planters followed the example given by Farquhar, and in 1829 introduced Indian contract labourers for the development of the sugar industry. By 1833, administrative procedures were set up by the Government in connection with the emigration of Indian labourers. The first main inflow of Indian labourers under contract arrived in Mauritius on 1st August 1834.

Hope it helps.

Ǣ0 ƞS 19:40, 15 July 2007 (UTC) reply

Thanks, that explains everything, but it should be also written in the article itself clearly.
And while we are about confusing sentences the first sentence of the article state:
"It has been frequently hypothesized that Mauritius was first discovered by the Arabs but this is without proof."
This contrast with the main article about Mauritius which state:
"The first record of Mauritius comes from Arab and Malay sailors as early as the tenth century. [1]
And the following sentences from the article about Rodrigues:
"From the 10th century, Arabs have been known to visit the Mascarene Islands. A 12th century map by the Arab geographer Ash-Sharif al-Idrisi, clearly shows the three islands of the Mascarenes as Dina Arobi (Mauritius), Dina Margabin ( Réunion) and Dina Moraze (Rodrigues). The island was named after the Portuguese navigator Dom Diogo Rodrigues in 1528."
Avihu 04:54, 16 July 2007 (UTC) reply
Thats the problem when editors don't cite their sources. The Rodrigues article also has this contradiction: "Rodrigues, named after the Portuguese explorer Diego Rodrigues, is one of the Mascarene Islands." (Intro) while in the History section its: "The island was named after the Portuguese navigator Dom Diogo Rodrigues in 1528."
In fact, if no reliable sources can be found for this: "It has been frequently hypothesized that Mauritius was first discovered by the Arabs but this is without proof.", it should be removed since it is speculative in nature.
As for the CIA reference, although it may be deemed reliable because it comes from the CIA, it is not since it is vague, i.e, it says "the first records", but what records? Are they manuscripts? Who authored these records? The Arabs themselves, European sailors or a contemporary scholar? Also, the CIA entries will be more concerned about current data than ancient history that is of no use for its purposes.
I found this: http://www.oldmaps.mu/History/Arabs.htm and the good thing is that it also cites its own references.
Then, this (But no citations of its own references): http://www.mauritius.org.uk/History.htm
Another: http://lcweb2.loc.gov/frd/cs/mutoc.html It is a table of contents. Can't give exact sections because of this:

Do NOT bookmark these search results. Search results are stored in a TEMPORARY file for display purposes. The temporary file will be purged from our system in a few hours.

Ǣ0 ƞS 07:19, 16 July 2007 (UTC) reply

Notes and references

  1. ^ "CIA - The World Factbook -- Mauritius". CIA. Retrieved 2007-05-04.

Ebony bark?

I'm confused as to why the BARK of ebony trees would have any appreciable value. Ebony bark is consistently mentioned on the page, where one would assume that the wood itself is the intended subject:

Those who landed on the island freely cut and took with them the precious bark of the Ebony trees, then found in profusion all over the island.
His successor was Adriaan van der Stel who began the development in earnest, developing the export of Ebony bark.
Clearing of large swaths of forests for Ebony bark exploitation

An Internet search revealed no particular references to any value ascribed to the bark of ebony trees. Remarkable, one of the top hits was the History of Mauritius page!

I propose these instances be changed, simply striking the "bark (of)". Additionally, ebony should appear without capitalization.

-- Fyo ( talk) 21:40, 17 March 2010 (UTC) reply

Bird section

While the dodo bird is quite pretty it is completely irrelevant to the history of Mauritius. What about some actual images of Mauritius instead of some silly bird? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.91.66.161 ( talk) 22:41, 27 April 2013 (UTC) reply

If you want to add some, go ahead, but do not remove the dodo pic. Reliable sources include it as relevant to the history of Mauritius, so no offense, but we have to take their word over yours. Til Eulenspiegel / talk/ 00:05, 28 April 2013 (UTC) reply

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conquest of isle de france'

introduction The strong strategic position of isle de france convinced the british government that to succeed in india ,it was crucial to take over the island.

The French who enjoyed the monopoly of using isle de france as a naval base had challenged the british supremacy in india.Thus to prevent the French from attacking them in india and to be able to create their empire.it was important to take over isle de france.


French corsairs were attacking british ships in indian ocean.trading goods were stolen on their way to india and this caused losses to britishand also impoverished the british trade.

Right. Then the English banned slavery and started an embargo off the ivory Coast trying to interfere with the Atlantic slave trade, but that's another article Elinruby ( talk) 09:56, 12 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Mauritius Railways - The Governor's Carriage

Information on the above is currently being researched. See comments on this photo : https://www.flickr.com/photos/mauritius100/14321909616/ .

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Mauritius

tous ban mauricien bizin protez zot pays. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.136.181.132 ( talk) 17:19, 14 January 2018 (UTC) reply

Ben sûr Elinruby ( talk) 09:51, 12 December 2022 (UTC) reply

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