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The link to the Article "G for Galskab" is outdated since the article has been moved, but I do not how know to change it. The link to its new location is http://politiken.dk/debat/ledere/article81143.ece —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.74.217.62 ( talk) 08:20, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
It looks like the first draft of this article was POV, taking a stand opposed to Professor Nyborg--stating for example that the heritability of intelligence is a "theory" (it's an empirical fact, emerging from every study that tested for it), and branding his "defenders" as "controversial intelligence researchers" (all people who research intelligence are controversial, since the empirical facts they have uncovered fly in the face of what most of us want to believe). Some of the later material, on how Nyborg's methodology compares favorably to his peers, strikes me as much more NPOV. Nyborg is truly a martyr to political correctness, and IMHO a NPOV article would emphasize that. I intend to make a few changes. Any thoughts? -- Anthon.Eff 22:54, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
2/3 of the children Helmuth Nyborg followed through the years left. Especially around puberty. The research did not only consist of testing IQ regularly but also photographing the children nude from 3 different views, taking blodsamples for hormones, and measuring the distance between the girls nipples and measuring the size of the boys testicles. So far I haven't seen any data public about the IQ of the girls choosing to leave the research project, neither the boys. Should this information be included in the profile? -- Toften ( talk) 13:51, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Not one politician has had a role in this case, as far as I now. In Denmark it is just bad taste to talk about gender differences as well as about discrimination. I am presently trying to get a link to a report published in 2006 on the quality of the Nyborg-research, but I am not sure it is public. Behind the report are three appointed experts from academia within the research field.-- Toften ( talk) 19:26, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
The section "Aarhus University reaction" starts with the sentence "Even though the paper had passed peer review.." could someone please clarify which paper this is referring to? It's not clear to the casual reader. Thanks. WotherspoonSmith ( talk) 10:15, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
Maybe these references will help clean up some of the questions about the article. You may find it helpful while reading or editing articles to look at a bibliography of Intelligence Citations, posted for the use of all Wikipedians who have occasion to edit articles on human intelligence and related issues. I happen to have circulating access to a huge academic research library at a university with an active research program in these issues (and to another library that is one of the ten largest public library systems in the United States) and have been researching these issues since 1989. You are welcome to use these citations for your own research. You can help other Wikipedians by suggesting new sources through comments on that page. It will be extremely helpful for articles on human intelligence to edit them according to the Wikipedia standards for reliable sources for medicine-related articles, as it is important to get these issues as well verified as possible. -- WeijiBaikeBianji ( talk) 21:10, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
Let's check sources. There has been a recent insertion into the article of information about an Olympic medalist. Is he really the same person as the subject of this article? -- WeijiBaikeBianji ( talk) 15:06, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Several recent edits to this article have used Danish-language publications as sources, and now there is an English-language source Citing “scientific dishonesty,” Danish board calls for retraction of controversial paper on decline of Western civilization from a blog group-edited by experienced science journalists that reports on the latest developments. As the case is resolved, there should be some English-language sources for further edits to this article. -- WeijiBaikeBianji ( talk, how I edit) 22:11, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
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maybe this should be incorporated into the article: http://retractionwatch.com/2016/03/30/denmark-court-clears-controversial-psychologist-of-misconduct-charges/ :
A Danish court has determined that psychologist Helmuth Nyborg did not commit misconduct in a controversial 2011 paper which predicted an influx of immigrants into Denmark would lower the population’s average IQ by the latter part of this century.
Best -- hroest 17:15, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
I added a cite from Retraction Watch on the verdict, and mentioned the 200000kr judgement. I also pulled a non-notable section attempting to smear Nyborg for attending a conference which some allegedly bad people also attended, and changed some wording to be more accurate and less accusatory. The bottom of the lede paragraph where it says that the university administrations' censure was politically motivated is supported by the existing (now translated) reference. The other reference in that section had no body text at all, besides being in Danish and behind a paywall, so I deleted it. Feel free to add it back if you can find a link with text, preferably in or translated into English. One danish reference was replaced with a Google translations, and this should be done for all the other Danish references for them to be appropriate in English-language WP.
It is inappropriate to revert any changes if other means such as actual editing would result in a more accurate, well-sourced article. This happens far too often. Don't. Enon ( talk) 23:14, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
I did a few edits to the 2011 controversy section.
Removed false claim that HN was found guilty twice by UVVU. He was found not guilty the first time.
Right wing group. This is a nationalist group, so be precise: Den Danske Forening which translates to The Danish Union/Orgnization/Coalition (the word lacks a direct English equivalent).
Added information about the journal verdict, namely about the composition of the researchers in the ad hoc committee since these are themselves prominent enough to have Wiki pages (3/4).
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The link to the Article "G for Galskab" is outdated since the article has been moved, but I do not how know to change it. The link to its new location is http://politiken.dk/debat/ledere/article81143.ece —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.74.217.62 ( talk) 08:20, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
It looks like the first draft of this article was POV, taking a stand opposed to Professor Nyborg--stating for example that the heritability of intelligence is a "theory" (it's an empirical fact, emerging from every study that tested for it), and branding his "defenders" as "controversial intelligence researchers" (all people who research intelligence are controversial, since the empirical facts they have uncovered fly in the face of what most of us want to believe). Some of the later material, on how Nyborg's methodology compares favorably to his peers, strikes me as much more NPOV. Nyborg is truly a martyr to political correctness, and IMHO a NPOV article would emphasize that. I intend to make a few changes. Any thoughts? -- Anthon.Eff 22:54, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
2/3 of the children Helmuth Nyborg followed through the years left. Especially around puberty. The research did not only consist of testing IQ regularly but also photographing the children nude from 3 different views, taking blodsamples for hormones, and measuring the distance between the girls nipples and measuring the size of the boys testicles. So far I haven't seen any data public about the IQ of the girls choosing to leave the research project, neither the boys. Should this information be included in the profile? -- Toften ( talk) 13:51, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Not one politician has had a role in this case, as far as I now. In Denmark it is just bad taste to talk about gender differences as well as about discrimination. I am presently trying to get a link to a report published in 2006 on the quality of the Nyborg-research, but I am not sure it is public. Behind the report are three appointed experts from academia within the research field.-- Toften ( talk) 19:26, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
The section "Aarhus University reaction" starts with the sentence "Even though the paper had passed peer review.." could someone please clarify which paper this is referring to? It's not clear to the casual reader. Thanks. WotherspoonSmith ( talk) 10:15, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
Maybe these references will help clean up some of the questions about the article. You may find it helpful while reading or editing articles to look at a bibliography of Intelligence Citations, posted for the use of all Wikipedians who have occasion to edit articles on human intelligence and related issues. I happen to have circulating access to a huge academic research library at a university with an active research program in these issues (and to another library that is one of the ten largest public library systems in the United States) and have been researching these issues since 1989. You are welcome to use these citations for your own research. You can help other Wikipedians by suggesting new sources through comments on that page. It will be extremely helpful for articles on human intelligence to edit them according to the Wikipedia standards for reliable sources for medicine-related articles, as it is important to get these issues as well verified as possible. -- WeijiBaikeBianji ( talk) 21:10, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
Let's check sources. There has been a recent insertion into the article of information about an Olympic medalist. Is he really the same person as the subject of this article? -- WeijiBaikeBianji ( talk) 15:06, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Several recent edits to this article have used Danish-language publications as sources, and now there is an English-language source Citing “scientific dishonesty,” Danish board calls for retraction of controversial paper on decline of Western civilization from a blog group-edited by experienced science journalists that reports on the latest developments. As the case is resolved, there should be some English-language sources for further edits to this article. -- WeijiBaikeBianji ( talk, how I edit) 22:11, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
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maybe this should be incorporated into the article: http://retractionwatch.com/2016/03/30/denmark-court-clears-controversial-psychologist-of-misconduct-charges/ :
A Danish court has determined that psychologist Helmuth Nyborg did not commit misconduct in a controversial 2011 paper which predicted an influx of immigrants into Denmark would lower the population’s average IQ by the latter part of this century.
Best -- hroest 17:15, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
I added a cite from Retraction Watch on the verdict, and mentioned the 200000kr judgement. I also pulled a non-notable section attempting to smear Nyborg for attending a conference which some allegedly bad people also attended, and changed some wording to be more accurate and less accusatory. The bottom of the lede paragraph where it says that the university administrations' censure was politically motivated is supported by the existing (now translated) reference. The other reference in that section had no body text at all, besides being in Danish and behind a paywall, so I deleted it. Feel free to add it back if you can find a link with text, preferably in or translated into English. One danish reference was replaced with a Google translations, and this should be done for all the other Danish references for them to be appropriate in English-language WP.
It is inappropriate to revert any changes if other means such as actual editing would result in a more accurate, well-sourced article. This happens far too often. Don't. Enon ( talk) 23:14, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
I did a few edits to the 2011 controversy section.
Removed false claim that HN was found guilty twice by UVVU. He was found not guilty the first time.
Right wing group. This is a nationalist group, so be precise: Den Danske Forening which translates to The Danish Union/Orgnization/Coalition (the word lacks a direct English equivalent).
Added information about the journal verdict, namely about the composition of the researchers in the ad hoc committee since these are themselves prominent enough to have Wiki pages (3/4).
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