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Hawar News Agency has been accused of being "PKK-affiliated" by Iraqi Kurdish broadcaster Kurdistan 24. [1] It may just be slanderous infighting, I don't know... Batternut ( talk) 18:28, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
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video released by the PKK-affiliated Hawar news agency
Re your edit on Hawar News Agency, removing a hit count of facebook mentions. Your comment was "Removed facebook ref, illegal" - which wp policy makes it illegal? Thanks, Batternut ( talk) 08:54, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
Hi Batternut, regarding the above. Do a search for it, and you will find it. All social networks, Facebook, linked in, twitter, Instagram, IMDb, IMDb pro, are user generated and are not under editorial control, as such are not allowed as references on Wikipedia. Any refs like this are not reliable, not verifiable, and cant be asserted to be fact. scope_creep ( talk) 10:56, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
Batternut, you put a list of facebook searches by google as a ref into Hawar News Agency Facebook as a reference is illegal, and search list is not a reference. Don't put it back in. The page has been reviewed, and undertaking disruptive editing. scope_creep ( talk) 09:58, 24 June 2017 (UTC) (comment moved from User_talk:Batternut)
search list is not a reference, but the citation is "About 8,100 results", ie not the list. For the benefit of everyone, tell us which wikipedia policy or law that you believe is being broken. Thanks. Batternut ( talk) 17:11, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
Hawar News Agency is currently referenced on well over 500 articles on this wikipedia. Count them here. Despite that, and despite acting as Rojava's state media (which is observable but does not seem to be officially declared), without much "significant coverage" about the agency itself (rather than just quotations etc), the article will not satisfy WP:GNG. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Al-Masdar News as an example of how a similar AfD was discussed.
Replacing this article with a redirect to Media of Syria#Hawar News Agency, where a summary of the Hawar News Agency exists, might be the best option. I have done this for Ekurd.net. Batternut ( talk) 13:23, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
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Hawar News Agency has been accused of being "PKK-affiliated" by Iraqi Kurdish broadcaster Kurdistan 24. [1] It may just be slanderous infighting, I don't know... Batternut ( talk) 18:28, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
References
video released by the PKK-affiliated Hawar news agency
Re your edit on Hawar News Agency, removing a hit count of facebook mentions. Your comment was "Removed facebook ref, illegal" - which wp policy makes it illegal? Thanks, Batternut ( talk) 08:54, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
Hi Batternut, regarding the above. Do a search for it, and you will find it. All social networks, Facebook, linked in, twitter, Instagram, IMDb, IMDb pro, are user generated and are not under editorial control, as such are not allowed as references on Wikipedia. Any refs like this are not reliable, not verifiable, and cant be asserted to be fact. scope_creep ( talk) 10:56, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
Batternut, you put a list of facebook searches by google as a ref into Hawar News Agency Facebook as a reference is illegal, and search list is not a reference. Don't put it back in. The page has been reviewed, and undertaking disruptive editing. scope_creep ( talk) 09:58, 24 June 2017 (UTC) (comment moved from User_talk:Batternut)
search list is not a reference, but the citation is "About 8,100 results", ie not the list. For the benefit of everyone, tell us which wikipedia policy or law that you believe is being broken. Thanks. Batternut ( talk) 17:11, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
Hawar News Agency is currently referenced on well over 500 articles on this wikipedia. Count them here. Despite that, and despite acting as Rojava's state media (which is observable but does not seem to be officially declared), without much "significant coverage" about the agency itself (rather than just quotations etc), the article will not satisfy WP:GNG. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Al-Masdar News as an example of how a similar AfD was discussed.
Replacing this article with a redirect to Media of Syria#Hawar News Agency, where a summary of the Hawar News Agency exists, might be the best option. I have done this for Ekurd.net. Batternut ( talk) 13:23, 30 June 2017 (UTC)