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The mention of The Day Today states that he was credited in 8 episodes - this cannot be possible, as there were only 6. Can this be changed or removed as appropriate? 2A00:23C4:E31:6801:A9C3:4633:B81D:CF65 ( talk) 23:31, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, I have checked and he's credited in episodes 1 & 3, but not the other 4, two of which have no "additional material". He's credited as part of his writing partnership with Matthews.
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- Thanks for the edit - having just checked, there's a similar issue with Brass Eye, as there were only 7 episodes of that, so he couldn't be credited in 8 of them. 2A00:23C4:E31:6801:A9C3:4633:B81D:CF65 ( talk) 22:43, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Credited on screen for all 6 of the series (Matthews and Baynham only other cowriters on every ep). Not credited on the 2001 special. Rankersbo ( talk) 13:59, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
It seems that this is a page that isn't written neutrally at all. Particularly in the light of the Cass review, the opinion in the UK has changed quite dramatically on this now. Can this not be revised to be neutral? Zaphriel ( talk) 05:06, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Please provide reliable sources EvergreenFir (talk) 05:49, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- There’s a million threads like this in the talk page archive, so checking to make sure they haven’t already covered what you’re suggesting is a good idea too.
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- Also, being very specific about what you think should be changed is also helpful. GraziePrego ( talk) 05:50, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- I think there is a distinction between whether his position on trans rights is in the right area, and his behaviour in promoting his views. The page focusses on his actions and the consequences, not on whether the political position they come from is correct.
- To debate the Cass review and whether it endorses Grahams position (if not his behaviour) verges into
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- Yes this often comes up. The article isn't great but changes are hard to achieve.
- Do remember that Wikipedia isn't about (anybodies) truth. It's just about what 'reliable sources ' say about a subject. That may be our limitation - but what better way is there? Lukewarmbeer ( talk) 17:15, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- To debate the Cass review and whether it endorses Grahams position (if not his behaviour) verges into
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The mention of The Day Today states that he was credited in 8 episodes - this cannot be possible, as there were only 6. Can this be changed or removed as appropriate? 2A00:23C4:E31:6801:A9C3:4633:B81D:CF65 ( talk) 23:31, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, I have checked and he's credited in episodes 1 & 3, but not the other 4, two of which have no "additional material". He's credited as part of his writing partnership with Matthews.
Rankersbo (
talk) 17:23, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the edit - having just checked, there's a similar issue with Brass Eye, as there were only 7 episodes of that, so he couldn't be credited in 8 of them. 2A00:23C4:E31:6801:A9C3:4633:B81D:CF65 ( talk) 22:43, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Credited on screen for all 6 of the series (Matthews and Baynham only other cowriters on every ep). Not credited on the 2001 special. Rankersbo ( talk) 13:59, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
It seems that this is a page that isn't written neutrally at all. Particularly in the light of the Cass review, the opinion in the UK has changed quite dramatically on this now. Can this not be revised to be neutral? Zaphriel ( talk) 05:06, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Please provide reliable sources EvergreenFir (talk) 05:49, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- There’s a million threads like this in the talk page archive, so checking to make sure they haven’t already covered what you’re suggesting is a good idea too.
GraziePrego (
talk) 05:50, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Also, being very specific about what you think should be changed is also helpful. GraziePrego ( talk) 05:50, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- I think there is a distinction between whether his position on trans rights is in the right area, and his behaviour in promoting his views. The page focusses on his actions and the consequences, not on whether the political position they come from is correct.
- To debate the Cass review and whether it endorses Grahams position (if not his behaviour) verges into
WP:NOTFORUM
Rankersbo (
talk) 07:09, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Yes this often comes up. The article isn't great but changes are hard to achieve.
- Do remember that Wikipedia isn't about (anybodies) truth. It's just about what 'reliable sources ' say about a subject. That may be our limitation - but what better way is there? Lukewarmbeer ( talk) 17:15, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- To debate the Cass review and whether it endorses Grahams position (if not his behaviour) verges into
WP:NOTFORUM
Rankersbo (
talk) 07:09, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
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