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Jordanroderick, congratulations on this article. It's a remarkably good piece of work, especially for a first article. I would like to nominate it for a Did You Know appearance, meaning an intriguing fact from it would be featured on the front page of Wikipedia (I was thinking "Did you know ... that General Frisbie sank three ships, was demoted to Commander and ended life as a salmon cannery?" – what do you think?). One issue is that for DYK, every paragraph should have at least one inline citation. A citation at the end of the paragraph can cover the whole paragraph but it can't cover several, so this may just be matter of copying citations from later paragraphs to earlier ones. Would you have time to address this in the next week or so? It would need to be nominated within 7 days and while there's some leeway to tidy up after that, it's not indefinite. If any other issues come up at review, I would be happy to help you address them. › Mortee talk 15:44, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
I added the references and cleaned up a few other odds and ends. Let me know if you need anything else. Thanks! Jordanroderick ( talk) 22:28, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
Hi. I added the URLs to the newspaper articles, but they are ALL behind paywalls. I always find that frustrating, but I'll take your word for it that this is useful to some. Thanks for the advice! Jordanroderick ( talk) 23:32, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
Hi again. Here are the references you asked for regarding the DYK blurb: 1. Reference 25 documents the sinking of Sehome. Reference 28 documents the sinking of St Helena. Actually, the Iriquois was merely disabled, so perhaps it would be best to say that General Frisbie sank two ships, not three. 2. The definitive record of the names of Federally documented vessels is the annual Coast Guard publication. Reference 24 Documents "General Frisbie" and reference 11 documents "Commander". 3. The ships fate as a salmon cannery is document in reference 19. I hope this helps. Thanks for all your help! Jordanroderick ( talk) 00:05, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
I moved all of the references out of the lead. This makes perfect sense to me as a summary of all the other material in the body of the document. Thanks you so much for picking up on the 1918 date for the Sehome sinking. I checked this with three different sources and indeed this is correct. I changed the text to reflect this. I guess that's why everybody can benefit from a good editor. As for the hook, I like "sank two ships and disabled a third...". In one of my other lives I was a Coast Guard licensed mariner, and I think most of my colleagues would consider "beached" a form of sinking. If you have a hole in your hull that lets in enough water that you sink to the bottom, you're still sunk whether you're in 1000 feet of water or 10. And anyway, it reads a little cleaner. Thanks again for all your help! Jordanroderick ( talk) 23:55, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
Looks great! Thanks so much for taking this under your wing to coach me on how to improve the article.
Hi, Nosebagbear. From the documentation on {{ WikiProject Ships}}, I think the reason it's not displaying C-class is that it's not been assessed against the B-class criteria. I've never encountered a requirement like that before. Perhaps later (maybe after DYK?) we could ask you to come back and reassess? I agree that it's a C at the moment but it probably wouldn't take much to bump it up. › Mortee talk 16:17, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
When does it arrive? It left already!
Shenme ( talk) 00:24, 22 September 2018 (UTC) Thanks for catching this. I corrected it to make it both historically accurate and physically possible! Jordanroderick ( talk) 22:27, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
A fact from General Frisbie (steamship) appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the
Did you know column on 22 September 2018 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
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This article is rated B-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Jordanroderick, congratulations on this article. It's a remarkably good piece of work, especially for a first article. I would like to nominate it for a Did You Know appearance, meaning an intriguing fact from it would be featured on the front page of Wikipedia (I was thinking "Did you know ... that General Frisbie sank three ships, was demoted to Commander and ended life as a salmon cannery?" – what do you think?). One issue is that for DYK, every paragraph should have at least one inline citation. A citation at the end of the paragraph can cover the whole paragraph but it can't cover several, so this may just be matter of copying citations from later paragraphs to earlier ones. Would you have time to address this in the next week or so? It would need to be nominated within 7 days and while there's some leeway to tidy up after that, it's not indefinite. If any other issues come up at review, I would be happy to help you address them. › Mortee talk 15:44, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
I added the references and cleaned up a few other odds and ends. Let me know if you need anything else. Thanks! Jordanroderick ( talk) 22:28, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
Hi. I added the URLs to the newspaper articles, but they are ALL behind paywalls. I always find that frustrating, but I'll take your word for it that this is useful to some. Thanks for the advice! Jordanroderick ( talk) 23:32, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
Hi again. Here are the references you asked for regarding the DYK blurb: 1. Reference 25 documents the sinking of Sehome. Reference 28 documents the sinking of St Helena. Actually, the Iriquois was merely disabled, so perhaps it would be best to say that General Frisbie sank two ships, not three. 2. The definitive record of the names of Federally documented vessels is the annual Coast Guard publication. Reference 24 Documents "General Frisbie" and reference 11 documents "Commander". 3. The ships fate as a salmon cannery is document in reference 19. I hope this helps. Thanks for all your help! Jordanroderick ( talk) 00:05, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
I moved all of the references out of the lead. This makes perfect sense to me as a summary of all the other material in the body of the document. Thanks you so much for picking up on the 1918 date for the Sehome sinking. I checked this with three different sources and indeed this is correct. I changed the text to reflect this. I guess that's why everybody can benefit from a good editor. As for the hook, I like "sank two ships and disabled a third...". In one of my other lives I was a Coast Guard licensed mariner, and I think most of my colleagues would consider "beached" a form of sinking. If you have a hole in your hull that lets in enough water that you sink to the bottom, you're still sunk whether you're in 1000 feet of water or 10. And anyway, it reads a little cleaner. Thanks again for all your help! Jordanroderick ( talk) 23:55, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
Looks great! Thanks so much for taking this under your wing to coach me on how to improve the article.
Hi, Nosebagbear. From the documentation on {{ WikiProject Ships}}, I think the reason it's not displaying C-class is that it's not been assessed against the B-class criteria. I've never encountered a requirement like that before. Perhaps later (maybe after DYK?) we could ask you to come back and reassess? I agree that it's a C at the moment but it probably wouldn't take much to bump it up. › Mortee talk 16:17, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
When does it arrive? It left already!
Shenme ( talk) 00:24, 22 September 2018 (UTC) Thanks for catching this. I corrected it to make it both historically accurate and physically possible! Jordanroderick ( talk) 22:27, 22 September 2018 (UTC)