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46.246.177.230 ( talk) 13:41, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
The article states that Ike was the executive officer to General George V. Mosely until 1933, when he became chief military aide to General Douglas MacArthur. How is it then possible that he participated in the violent suppression of the Bonus Army in 1932 as junior aide to MacArthur? There seems to be missing one part in his career, a relativly unpopular one. -- Beliar ( talk) 18:56, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
Should the health section mention that he began to suffer from cholelithiasis in August 1966, for which he underwent surgery on 12 December 1966? ( 92.7.4.161 ( talk) 13:51, 12 August 2011 (UTC))
My first time commenting, but I am pretty sure Eisenhower did not campaign for tabasco sauce. His K1C2 slogan was "communism, corruption and Korea". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.136.192.166 ( talk) 21:23, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
I'm wondering if a new section could, should be added as I just read, "EX US President Eisenhower was briefed about the presence of extraterrestrial intelligent beings on Earth and was invited to meet alien visitors. Henry W. McElroy, Jr, retiring State Representative to New Hampshire, declared this week that former US President Eisenhower was briefed about the presence of extraterrestrial intelligent beings on Earth.
McElroy also said that the document he viewed while at the State Legislature made referrence to the opportunity for Eisenhower to meet the alien visitors.
The Daily Telegraph May 25, 2010 9:00AM
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/weird/president-told-aliens-are-on-earth/story-e6frev20-1225870887598?from=public_rss"Matthew 19:14, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
I believe the Iranian coup d'etat warrants mention in the introduction since it is a highly controversial event (the United States and United Kingdom deposing an elected leader of a country in order to restore a dictator to power). The foreign policy section ought to mention the fact that no less a person than his own Vice President Richard Nixon claimed that Eisenhower later regretted saving Colonel Nasser in 1956. Also Roger Makins' contemporary account of the secret discussions between Eisenhower and Harold Macmillan at the White House on 25 September 1956 largely confirmed Macmillan's account of the meeting - that Eisenhower talked of the US and UK cooperating to overthrow Nasser, and that the main objective was regime change rather than ownership of the Canal. ( 92.7.14.190 ( talk) 20:15, 12 December 2011 (UTC))
I was just worried readers might wonder why Eisenhower was reluctant to remove Colonel Nasser in the same way after he had declared himself President of Egypt in a rigged election. ( 92.7.14.190 ( talk) 20:33, 12 December 2011 (UTC))
The United States already had its own plan to bring down Nasser by political and financial means rather than the use of force. The UK's ambassador to Washington Roger Makins was at the secret White House meeting on 25 September, his contemporary report of what was said shows Eisenhower did discuss regime change for Egypt. Furthermore it is worth mentioning that Nixon said Eisenhower told him he regretted saving the Egyptian dictator. ( 92.7.6.232 ( talk) 14:26, 13 December 2011 (UTC))
As relayed in Charles Williams' book, Ambassador Makins' official account at the time of the conversation between Eisenhower and Harold Macmillan records Eisenhower talking about the need to "bring Nasser down", which the President agreed was the main issue rather than the Suez Canal. This needs to be mentioned, as it is therefore not surprising that Macmillan assumed the US government would support the military attempt to remove Nasser. ( MuammarGunshot ( talk) 18:14, 12 January 2012 (UTC))
According to here:
President Eisenhower was born David Dwight Eisenhower, not Dwight David Eisenhower as some sources report. His family had always addressed him by his middle name (Dwight) to differentiate him from his father, who was also named David, and later came to be known as Dwight David Eisenhower. Birth records, the Eisenhower family bible, and the Eisenhower's themselves, all confirm he was born David Dwight Eisenhower, and later transposed his first and middle names.
-- Hodgson-Burnett's Secret Garden ( talk) 20:32, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
There is some overcrowding. I have initially removed the following image to help with this. File:American World War II senior military officials, 1945.JPEG|thumb|From left, front row includes army officers Simpson, Patton, Spaatz, Eisenhower, Bradley, Hodges and Gerow in 1945. Hoppyh ( talk) 20:08, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
I have removed the following image at Buchenwald and am replacing it with a pic of the surrender at Rheims, since this is mentioned in the body of the article while the Buchenwald pic is not. File:Ohrdruf Eisenhower 04649.jpg|thumb|210px|Ike views dead prisoners at Buchenwald, 1945. Hoppyh ( talk) 21:29, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
I have removed the following quote from a speech Ike never gave, the idea being that the article should use statements actually made. Feel free to restore if deemed appropriate.
This book review and the book itself can provide additional detail on the life of Eisehower: http://www.economist.com/node/21550240 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.123.41.188 ( talk) 15:56, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
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I previously removed (and will remove again) the speculation attributed to Ambrose about Eisenhower never accepting Plesy v Ferguson. There is -no- documentary evidence of any such statement, and the interview in which Ambrose claims he said it never happened (see the New Yorker "Channeling Ike" article for more on Ambrose's fabrication). Below is a footnote from Smith's "Eisenhower in War and Peace" to explain it further.
Please do not add this quote back without some other reference than Ambrose's interview, as I think no serious historian believe it happened (or at least I was unable to find anyone seriously supporting it).
"1984, Stephen Ambrose published the first of several biographies of Eisenhower. In it he stated that “Eisenhower personally wished that the Court had upheld Plessy v. Ferguson.” The allegation is repeated by Ambrose in his subsequent works. Because of Ambrose’s position as an associate editor of the Eisenhower Papers, a generation of historians have accepted his version of Ike’s views. Ambrose provides no documentation, no references, and cites only “private” conversations. The fact is Ambrose cut the allegation from whole cloth. There is no evidence whatsoever to sustain Ambrose’s claim. David A. Nichols, in his definitive study of Eisenhower and civil rights, writes that “there is no credible evidence” for Ambrose’s assertion; Blanche Wiesen Cook, one of the earliest researchers in the archives of the Eisenhower Library, found none, nor have I. In the April 26, 2010, issue of The New Yorker magazine, Richard Rayner reports that Ambrose’s alleged interviews with Eisenhower never took place. The record does not sustain that he ever met privately with Ike. Timothy D. Rives, deputy director of the Eisenhower Presidential Library, provided chapter and verse sustaining Rayner’s conclusions in a subsequent article appearing online on George Mason University’s History News Network, May 17, 2010.
Smith, Jean Edward (2012-02-21). Eisenhower in War and Peace (Kindle Locations 13977-13987). Random House, Inc.. Kindle Edition. " — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.197.182.198 ( talk) 02:38, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
I've noticed that someone has de-linked " President of the United States" in the lead and infobox for this article, as well as the Harry S. Truman article. It's not a terribly urgent thing, but I wonder why this is the case. I'm not one for undoing someone's contribution if I'm not certain of the intention. So, what's the purpose of de-linking the title in the lead and infobox? Tyrol5 [Talk] 16:38, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
http://eisenhower.archives.gov/All_About_Ike/Post_Presidential/Post_Presidential.html (The website is not Firefox compatible, use IE Tab if using Firefox)
http://www.eisenhower.utexas.edu/all_about_ike/post_presidential.html updated Giuseppe Caruso ( talk) 06:07, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
Ike's heart failure is mentioned as the cause of death on the page, but not the contributing adrenal pheochromocytoma, which plagued Ike for years. See "The President and the Pheochromocytoma," http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17478167 Any mention of this would increase public awareness of this condition. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.165.229.61 ( talk) 13:13, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
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Hello, Nationality information of < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_D._Eisenhower> is not available now. I was using this information which is connected to nationality property of dbpedia resource < http://dbpedia.org/resource/Dwight_D._Eisenhower>. I use this resource to executing FedBench Cross Domain queries (for this topic it is result of http://iwb.fluidops.com:7879/resource/fbench:q/cross-domain_3 ), for evaluation phase of federated query engine. I want to receive result to this query without being obliged to download and open an subset of old dbpedia dump uploaded in fedbench, naturally I want to query original dbpedia endpoint < http://dbpedia.org/sparql> and receive up to date result. Please add nationality information < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States> to this resource < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_D._Eisenhower>, so it will be updated on dbpedia after editing on wikipedia. Regards, Burak Yönyül Burakyonyul ( talk) 11:23, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi, The nationality information is avilable on this president : < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clements?oldid=493288459> and on many others. Isn't it nice to add this information to < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_D._Eisenhower> too. So it will be consistent with most of other American presidents. Regards, Burak Yönyül — Preceding unsigned comment added by Burakyonyul ( talk • contribs) 06:32, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
search for "do not see now" which should be "do not see how", it seems. Benvhoff ( talk) 08:38, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
The introduction to the article claims that the name Eisenhauer was changed to Eisenhower when the family immigrated from Germany. However, according to Michael Korda's book, Ike (page 60), Jacob Eisenhauer, Ike's grandfather, kept the name, at least for some time. By the time Ike's father opened a general store, the name had been changed to Eisenhower (page 63). The reference is: Korda, M., "Ike: an American Hero", 2007, Harper Collins. Pigdog234 ( talk) 09:54, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
By the way, the German spelling had changed around 1650. Before that "Frau" had been spelled "Fraw" and "hauen" was written "hawen" (also "und" was written "vnd" ect.). So it's very likely, that the German Eisenhower family had been spelled "Eisenhawer", or actually even more likely "Eysenhawer".-- Demoiselle Clarisse ( talk) 16:59, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
In this section President at Columbia University and NATO Supreme Commander
"a study group he led as president concerning the political and military implications of the Marshall Plan"
Linking "Marshall Plan" to its article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan, would be useful
AreebAlowisheq ( talk) 09:00, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
The article doesn't mention any promotions after the promotion to Brigadier General. Shouldn't this info be inserted? Ishboyfay ( talk) 00:08, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
Should we not perhaps avoid the use of "Ike" when referring to President Eisenhower except where required by context? Phrases such as "Conner's comment on Ike was..." and "Ike's sense of responsibility was underscored by his draft of a statement to be issued if the invasion failed..." presuppose an unwarranted familiarity
Skimitar ( talk) 07:53, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
The second to last sentence of the third paragraph of the "Early life and education" section reads as follows: "In 1948, Eisenhower said he was "one of the most deeply religious men I know" though unattached to any "sect or organization"."
This sentence, nor the previous sentence, alludes to who Eisenhower is talking about (who "he" is). Is he talking about himself? This is confusing and random; please remove the sentence or correct it. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.128.77.251 ( talk) 20:56, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
Any citations that use Stephen Ambrose should be removed. Ambrose novel's embellish certain aspects of Eisenhower's life by citing interviews that were in reality much shorter than Ambrose proclaimed, and the author repeatedly ignores facts in order to create a more complete narrative. http://www.newyorker.com/talk/2010/04/26/100426ta_talk_rayner Cheers, Reddevil1421 ( talk) 23:11, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
I just counted 84 categories for this page. Should this be reduced? 84 is alot.-- Solomonfromfinland ( talk) 15:55, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
How are Eisenhower terms "peacefull" if he was President during the Korean War. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.109.103.190 ( talk) 17:24, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
from the section on President at Columbia University and NATO Supreme Commander "During that year Eisenhower's memoir, Crusade in Europe, ....Eisenhower's profit on the book was substantially aided by an unprecedented ruling by the Treasury Department that Eisenhower was not a professional writer, but rather, marketing the lifetime asset of his experiences, and thus only had to pay capital gains tax on his $635,000 advance instead of the much higher personal tax rate. The ruling saved Eisenhower approximately $400,000. " Very interesting. How much during Eisenhower's presidency did the tax rates change? How much was his influence on these changes ? Wfoj2 ( talk) 23:35, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
I was thinking of adding a sub-section as to the May 1960, U-2 incident with pilot, Francis Gary Powers. The matter is very briefly mentioned and linked in the lede but not in the body of the article, as it should be. Kierzek ( talk) 00:56, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
Something like this:
On May 1, 1960, a U.S. one-man U-2 spy plane was reportedly shot down at high altitude over the airspace of the Soviet Union. The U-2 "spy-in-the-sky" was allowed to use the Pakistan Air Force portion of Peshawar Airport to gain vital photo intelligence in an era before satellite observation over the Soviet Union. Previously, on April 9, 1960, there had been a successful U-2 flight over the southern national boundary of the Soviet Union in the area of Pamir Mountains and it flew over four Soviet top secret military installations. The U-2 was detected by the Soviet Air Defense Forces but avoided interception and landed safely in Iran.
On May 1, fifteen days before the scheduled opening of an East–West summit conference in Paris, Captain Francis Gary Powers, left in a U-2 from the US base in Peshawar to overfly the Soviet Union, photographing ICBM sites in and around Sverdlovsk and Plesetsk, then land at Bodø in Norway. Flying over the Soviet Union, the U-2 was detected, however, it could not be brought down by standard fighter-jet aircraft. The U-2 was eventually brought down near Degtyarsk, Ural Region, by the first of several SA-2 Guideline (S-75 Dvina) surface-to-air missiles. Powers bailed out and was captured soon after parachuting down onto Russian soil. Four days after Powers disappeared, NASA issued a very detailed press release noting that an aircraft had "gone missing" north of Turkey. The press release speculated that the pilot might have fallen unconscious while the autopilot was still engaged, even falsely claiming that "the pilot reported over the emergency frequency that he was experiencing oxygen difficulties."
Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev announced to the Supreme Soviet of the Soviet Union, and thus the world, that a "spy-plane" had been shot down but intentionally made no reference to the pilot. As a result, the Eisenhower Administration, thinking the pilot had died in the crash, authorized the release of a cover story claiming that the plane was a "weather research aircraft" which had unintentionally strayed into Soviet airspace after the pilot had radioed "difficulties with his oxygen equipment" while flying over Turkey. The Soviets put Captain Powers on trial and displayed parts of the U-2 spy plane which had been recovered almost fully intact. The 1960 Four Power Paris Summit between President Dwight Eisenhower, Nikita Khrushchev, Harold Macmillan and Charles de Gaulle collapsed, in large part because Eisenhower refused to accede to Khrushchev's demands that he apologize for the incident. Powers was interrogated extensively by the KGB for months before he made a forced confession and a public apology. The incident set back talks between Khrushchev and Eisenhower. On August 19, 1960, Powers was convicted of espionage against the Soviet Union and sentenced to three years in imprisonment followed by seven years of hard labor. He served one year and nine months of the sentence before being exchanged for Rudolf Abel on February 10, 1962.
I will add in the cites. Most of it is copy edits from the U-2 incident article. What do you think? Kierzek ( talk) 02:13, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
On May 1, 1960, a U.S. one-man U-2 spy plane was reportedly shot down at high altitude over the airspace of the Soviet Union. The U-2 "spy-in-the-sky" was allowed to use the Pakistan Air Force portion of Peshawar Airport to gain vital photo intelligence in an era before satellite observation over the Soviet Union.
The flight occurred fifteen days before the scheduled opening of an East–West summit conference in Paris. Once over the Soviet Union, the U-2 was detected. The U-2 was eventually brought down by a SA-2 Guideline (S-75 Dvina) surface-to-air missile. Captain Francis Gary Powers bailed out and was captured soon after parachuting down onto Russian soil. Four days after Powers disappeared, the Eisenhower Administration had NASA issue a very detailed press release noting that an aircraft had "gone missing" north of Turkey. The press release speculated that the pilot might have fallen unconscious while the autopilot was still engaged, even falsely claiming that "the pilot reported over the emergency frequency that he was experiencing oxygen difficulties."
Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev announced that a "spy-plane" had been shot down but intentionally made no reference to the pilot. As a result, the Eisenhower Administration, thinking the pilot had died in the crash, authorized the release of a cover story claiming that the plane was a "weather research aircraft" which had unintentionally strayed into Soviet airspace after the pilot had radioed "difficulties with his oxygen equipment" while flying over Turkey. The Soviets put Captain Powers on trial and displayed parts of the U-2 spy plane which had been recovered almost fully intact. The 1960 Four Power Paris Summit between President Dwight Eisenhower, Nikita Khrushchev, Harold Macmillan and Charles de Gaulle collapsed, in large part because Eisenhower refused to accede to Khrushchev's demands that he apologize for the incident. Up until this event, Eisenhower felt he had been making progress towards better relations with the Soviet Union. At the summit, nuclear arms reduction and Berlin were to have been discussed. Eisenhower stated it had all been ruined because of that "stupid U-2 business". The affair was an embarrassment for United States prestige. Further, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee held a lengthy inquiry into the U-2 incident. In Russia, Captain Powers was interrogated extensively by the KGB before he made a forced confession and a public apology. On August 19, 1960, Powers was convicted of espionage against the Soviet Union and sentenced to three years in imprisonment followed by seven years of hard labor. On February 10, 1962, Powers was exchanged for Rudolf Abel in Berlin and returned to the U.S.
On May 1, 1960, a U.S. one-man U-2 spy plane was reportedly shot down at high altitude over the airspace of the Soviet Union. The flight was made to gain photo intelligence before the scheduled opening of an East–West summit conference which had been scheduled in Paris, 15 days later. [1] Captain Francis Gary Powers had bailed out and was captured soon after parachuting down onto Russian soil. Four days after Powers disappeared, the Eisenhower Administration had NASA issue a very detailed press release noting that an aircraft had "gone missing" north of Turkey. The press release speculated that the pilot might have fallen unconscious while the autopilot was still engaged, even falsely claiming that "the pilot reported over the emergency frequency that he was experiencing oxygen difficulties." [2]
Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev announced that a "spy-plane" had been shot down but intentionally made no reference to the pilot. As a result, the Eisenhower Administration, thinking the pilot had died in the crash, authorized the release of a cover story claiming that the plane was a "weather research aircraft" which had unintentionally strayed into Soviet airspace after the pilot had radioed "difficulties with his oxygen equipment" while flying over Turkey. [3] The Soviets put Captain Powers on trial and displayed parts of the U-2 which had been recovered almost fully intact. The 1960 Four Power Paris Summit between President Dwight Eisenhower, Nikita Khrushchev, Harold Macmillan and Charles de Gaulle collapsed because of the incident. Eisenhower refused to accede to Khrushchev's demands that he apologize. Therefore Khrushchev would not take part in the summit. Up until this event, Eisenhower felt he had been making progress towards better relations with the Soviet Union. At the summit, nuclear arms reduction and Berlin were to have been discussed. Eisenhower stated it had all been ruined because of that "stupid U-2 business". [4] The affair was an embarrassment for United States prestige. Further, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee held a lengthy inquiry into the U-2 incident. [4] In Russia, Captain Powers made a forced confession and apology. On August 19, 1960, Powers was convicted of espionage and sentenced to imprisonment. On February 10, 1962, Powers was exchanged for Rudolf Abel in Berlin and returned to the U.S.
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Kierzek ( talk) 17:29, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
The article stated that Eisenhower reprimanded Patton for giving a "grossly errant speech". Actually, that event has been exaggerated. Patton made that speech in Knutsford in which he said it was "the evident destiny of the British and the Americans - and of course, the Russians - to rule the world after the war." Unfortunately, many newspaper accounts left out the part about the Russians, and Patton was unfairly accused of snubbing them. Eisenhower was told the facts, but he still considered relieving Patton of command for the simple reason that he was getting sick and tired of having to cover for him. Patton had no business commenting on postwar policy, so he deserved the reprimand, but let's not accuse him of more than he actually did. 97.73.64.156 ( talk) 01:44, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
Article needs a section on the 1956 election 156.99.108.1 ( talk) 18:57, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
A user boldly removed a bunch of award categories from the article. I temporarily reversed this because I think such a major change should probably be discussed. It's questionable to me whether some of these award categories should exist—but here, the question is while they do exist, should this article be removed from all of them, some of them, or none of them? Good Ol’factory (talk) 20:00, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
Should the "Presidency" sections be significantly shortened, with the bulk of its material moved over to Presidency of Dwight D. Eisenhower? Even though that's supposedly the "main article" about his presidency, the Presidency section here is far more comprehensive on the subject than is that entire article. As things stand currently, it actually seems pointless to me for that article to even exist. 76.169.117.161 ( talk) 06:53, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
Why isn't there a part about criticism of Eisenhower? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.234.203.191 ( talk) 12:18, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
This statement rings phoney: "Dwight developed a keen and enduring interest in exploring outdoors, hunting/fishing, cooking and card playing from an illiterate named Bob Davis who lived by the river." It sounds like the SNL sketch of the motivational speaker who lives in a van down by the river. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.253.136.138 ( talk) 17:49, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
Never mind. Reference [6] p. 23 has thr Bob Davis story. Davis is described as a trapper, guide, and fisherman (and illiterate), but does not locate his residence by the river.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.253.136.138 ( talk) 18:07, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
Another citation request, for the statement "Upon discovery of the Nazi concentration camps, he ordered camera crews to document evidence of the atrocities in them for use in the Nuremberg Trials." There are varying versions of whom he ordered to visit the concentration camps (the other version says any US troops that were nearby: "Eisenhower also ordered every American soldier in the area who was not on the front lines to visit Ohrdruf and Buchenwald." -- this version is at the Eisenhower Memorial website on the Wayback Machine, at http://web.archive.org/web/20041112001453/http://www.eisenhowermemorial.org/stories/death-camps.htm ). Does anyone know of a source that quotes the order verbatim? WilliamWQuick ( talk) — Preceding undated comment added 18:06, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
The infobox has his birth name as David Dwight Eisenhower without any explanation. Surely that isn't correct, is it? 92.40.249.156 ( talk) 22:12, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
Moments ago I added this column as a source for the listing at List of contract bridge people#Famous people and bridge:
-- P64 ( talk) 18:42, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
The next to last paragraph in the "Tributes and Memorials" section states:
"President Dwight D. Eisenhower, an Augusta National member, hit the tree so many times that, at a 1956 club meeting, he proposed that it be cut down. Not wanting to offend the president, the club's chairman, Clifford Roberts, immediately adjourned the meeting rather than reject the request."
However, the cited source states: "Clifford Roberts, the club chairman and co-founder, overruled the president and adjourned the meeting."
This is obviously not a matter of great importance. However, because I have mislaid my Wikipedia login information, I will leave any changes to active editors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.208.246.22 ( talk) 13:47, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
I did not see any referrals to Eisenhower issuing executive order 10450, for which called the investigation and firing of anyone who is gay in the U.S. civil service. This is source in many places including here in Wikipedia. Would any of you object if I mention it here? Allyn ( talk) 21:48, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
The 1953 Iranian coup d'état must be mentioned in the introduction, as it was by far the most controversial event of his presidency. ( FrancesJefferson ( talk) 16:58, 23 August 2015 (UTC))
FYI, FrancesJefferson has been blocked as yet another sock of HarveyCarter. Favonian ( talk) 18:15, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
As anyone that studies Eisenhower knows by now, anything that Ambrose attributes to his "personal interviews" with Eisenhower, which didn't actually take place, need to be vetted from a third source. And not one that just points back to the same inventions.
There are two totally discredited urban legends that people come along and add for some reason:
1) That Eisenhower stated that Earl Warren was his "worst mistake as President" because Warren was progressive. Never said it. Didn't happen. Or at least we can't prove it. If you can, and it does not involve a chain of references back to fictional Amrbose inventions, please add it back.
2) That Eisenhower made some statement about Southerners not being "all that bad", they just "don't want some big black buck sitting next to their little blonde girl" (paraphrased). Again, no one has a credible reference for this.
Please do not add these back without a non-circular reference back to the same discredited or absent source. They are exceptionally ad-hominem and exception claims require exceptional evidence.
I'd really like to lock that section until people figure it out, but so far as I'm aware you cannot lock only a section. Davepl ( talk) 01:57, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
While the fact that Eisenhower had stated that Earl Warren was his "worst mistake as President" is disputed, it is not an urban legend that Eisenhower told Earl Warren that Southerners "don't want some big black buck sitting next to their little blonde girl". Warren himself stated that in his memoirs, published after his death in 1974. There are reliable sources: [2], [3] [4]! Olegwiki ( talk) 20:58, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
It is not only the NYTimes article, there are other reliable sources which I have mentioned. Olegwiki ( talk) 11:47, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
I don't know, that looks like an unsubstantiated quote of a quote, not original reporting by the NYT. If an NYT reporter heard it an reported it, that'd be plenty. Given there are NO first-person accounts, it likely was never said (as a guess). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.17.192.70 ( talk) 18:43, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
Also, of the references about the "Big Buck" comment only the third carries any weight, and I can't tell what the citation is there, as it's ALSO not a direct quote (but if you have the book or Google Books does and can tell me what -their- source is, their note 18, that'd be handy). 24.17.192.70 ( talk) 18:45, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
Several years ago I had an acquaintance who was friendly with a blood relative (whom I rather not name) of President Eisenhower. I knew that Ike was a heavy smoker for years but didn’t know at the time if he had ever quit. Out of curiosity, I asked my acquaintance to ask his friend that question which he kindly did. He responded that his friend had replied that it was funny that he asked him that question. Ike’s relative had been doing some research (perhaps for a projected biography) and discovered that while at Columbia there was an unaccounted for period when Ike was in seclusion and when he reemerged he had quit smoking. Ike’s relative recounted that there was speculation that Ike had suffered a minor heart attack which had been covered up due to his possible interest in running for president. This article states that Ike had “given himself an order” to quit in 1949, but says nothing about his reasons.
I know this cannot be added to the article as it is purely anecdotal and speculative at that. I just thought it was interesting. HistoryBuff14 ( talk) 22:54, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
Eisenhower's deportation of Mexicans in Operation Wetback has been in the news lately. Shouldn't this at least be mentioned in the DDE article? Kdammers ( talk) 18:27, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
Eisenhower did a lot to help the French in Vietnam. The introduction was misleading so I corrected it. ( 79.67.120.118 ( talk) 16:20, 16 November 2015 (UTC))
According to the first episode of the current (2015-2016) season of America: Facts vs. Fiction (Tuesdays on the American Heroes Channel), Eisenhower's full name is David Dwight Eisenhower, not Dwight David Eisenhower.
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I'm proposing a new Main Article photo. There is nothing wrong with the current photo. However, there is not much consistency of photos from Roosevelt to Johnson.
It is as follows;
To add to the consistency, I propose to use one of the photo's below
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Preferably, It should be the General of the Army photo.
Thoughts? Caviar Cohort ( talk) 08:49, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
Should I add the category of 'American People of Scotch-Irish Descent' to this article. This category has been removed before. It is known that his father was primarily Swiss-German, but his maternal great-grandmother, Mary Ann Hannah was the daughter of Scottish-Irish settlers Robert Hannah, born in Ulster, Ireland and Mary Kilpatrick, also born in Ulster. Details of this Scotch-Irish ancestry can be found here.
I'll leave it out. However, I've found a newspaper article from the Times Daily in 1953, saying that Eisenhower had 'a trace of Irish on his maternal side'. Although, this would imply Native Irish ancestry, rather than Scots-Irish. If you'd like to look at this for yourself, here is a link. I'm unsure as to who wrote the article or it's accuracy.-- JoeyofScotia ( talk) 19:43, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
I have not changed the quoted paragraph below, but I am in strong disbelief that Switzerland was an inspiration for the US highway system. It was rather the other way around, since the first material stretch of Swiss "autobahn" was only built in the 1960ies. See also Motorways_of_Switzerland. Furthermore, Eisenhower did not have any Army experiences in Switzerland during World War II. The country remained neutral and was not invaded by any of the belligerent parties.
A related source is provided in the article's 'Interstate Highway System' section and reads as follows: "While in Europe during World War II General Eisenhower viewed the ease of travel on the German autobahns. That, coupled with the experiences of a young Lt. Col. Eisenhower in the 1919 Transcontinental Convoy, convinced the President of the overwhelming need for safer and speedier highways." Based on this mention of only Germany, I've removed Austria and Switzerland from the sentence in question, and repeated the source citation. — ADavidB 03:23, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
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I notice that the lede sentence was just changed to remove "politician" and "general". The phrasing "American politician and general who was the 34th president of the United States" (or "who served as") has been in the lede sentence for a couple of years, I believe. But earlier (2014 at least) it followed the pattern of this recent revision, "…was the 34th president of the United States", omitting "politician" and leaving the generalship to the next sentence. Has there ever been discussion or consensus about how to describe him in the opening sentence? (I became aware of this change because it seems to be inspired by an as-yet-unresolved discussion about how to describe Donald Trump in his biography's lede sentence.) -- MelanieN ( talk) 01:52, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
Apparently the maintenance template with links to the guidelines wasn't enough of an explanation to why they were added, so I re-added them and am making a note in the talk page about this.
The lead is too long for this article. I would alter the lead myself, but I feel it is best to leave that to the people who know what information is best to have in the lead. Thanks. {MordeKyle} ☢ 20:12, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
I also agree with this. I am no expert on Ike so I won't be doing anything with it but I highly recommend a person experienced in the field of U.S. Presidents and WWII Generals to edit this so that it is suitable. This article in my opinion is nearing good article class it just needs a bit of improvement here and there (introduction) and then I believe it will be promoted. So yeah anyone who can fix it please fix it! CnocBride ( talk) 11:58, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
Hi,
Eisenhower's sidebar states that his military service resumed in 1965 until 1969 but there is no source or mention of this in the body of the article. Can anyone shed any light on this?
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Why did Eisenhower support European imperialism in Iran and Vietnam, yet oppose it in Egypt? ( 86.144.85.72 ( talk) 09:04, 15 May 2017 (UTC))
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Add Merrill Eisenhower Atwater as biological son of Mary Eisenhower in the family tree. 2602:304:CDB7:6B20:1AC:4F0E:DD49:F8F9 ( talk) 22:39, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
Source 1 = http://www.kansas.com/news/business/aviation/article61951312.html Source 2 = http://www.bizjournals.com/wichita/news/2016/11/22/10-minutes-with-merrill-atwater-kansas-department.html Source 3 = http://ingrams.com/article/40-under-forty-the-class-of-2017/ Source 4 = http://www.toledoblade.com/Education/2013/04/02/Ike-s-great-grandson-to-help-mark-school-s-50th.html He even refers to his great-grandfather as “Ike,” using the two-term president’s boyhood nickname that stayed with him all his life. Mr. Atwater’s mother is Mary Jean Eisenhower, the president’s granddaughter. She was born in Washington during Mr. Eisenhower’s first term and christened in the Blue Room of the White House. Source 4 = "Other honors[edit] The city of Marshfield, Missouri chose Eisenhower as a 2008 honoree of the Edwin P. Hubble Medal of Initiative.[11] His grandson, Merrill Eisenhower Atwater spoke on his behalf at Marshfield's annual Cherry Blossom Festival. The medal recognizes individuals who demonstrate great initiative in their chosen field." /info/en/?search=John_Eisenhower |answered=no 2602:304:CDB7:6B20:9F6:2211:D3AF:BAAC ( talk) 02:33, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
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Merrill Eisenhower Atwater is the biological son of Mary Eisenhower but is NOT the son of James Brewton Millard. They don't even share a last name. Please just move the line below Mary's name. https://www.admin.ks.gov/offices/news-events/news-releases/2015/10/07/dwight-d.-eisenhower-inducted-into-kansas-walk-of-honor 104.181.110.211 ( talk) 16:30, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
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Eisenhower received an honorary doctorate degree from Dartmouth college in 1953. It should be mentioned. Vwchong ( talk) 04:54, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
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I took out the old "Warren was my biggest mistake" quote because it's bogus and creeps back in every couple of years. He didn't say it, and even if he did, there's no reliable source for it that I've ever seen (besides people claiming they heard someone say they heard it third hand, etc).
He might have -thought- if for all I know, but Wikipedia isn't for mind reading. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.17.192.70 ( talk) 19:05, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
Eisenhower regretted the Brennan and Warren appointments, saying in 1961 that the two greatest mistakes of his presidency were "both sitting on the Supreme Court." [1]
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- ^ Hentoff, Nat. Living the Bill of Rights: How to Be an Authentic American, p. 28 (University of California Press, 1999).
Is there any evidence this was not said to Fred Friendly in 1961? Anythingyouwant ( talk) 20:46, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
The article does not mention the fact that thousands of German civilians and POWs starved to death under his administration, which some have called criminal. Also Eisenhower's alliance with Spain was highly controversial as it was only financial aid from the US that enabled Franco to remain in power and pursue ruinous economic policies. Without that aid it is likely the Spanish people would have risen up and tried to overthrow him. ( 5.81.222.218 ( talk) 23:28, 18 January 2018 (UTC))
I think the extensive quotes from Brad Sears and Judith Atkins, recently added to the footnotes in the “Civil rights: LGBT” section (references 207-212), are excessive. I think we should trim them significantly (a key sentence or two is a typical footnote quote) or remove them entirely. If people want more information about the subject, they can click on the link. What do others think? -- MelanieN ( talk) 23:28, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
Just as we must include this section we must be accurate - it wasn't rampant homophobia that drove it, it was the belief that being gay in the 1950s made you a target of blackmail and exploitation. Same as alcoholics and the mentally ill - which the act also covered - it wasn't about "getting them out": It wasn't about the supposed character of the gay person but the ability of others to target them. We don't really explain this at all in the section, and it just comes across as anti-gay. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.17.192.70 ( talk) 18:26, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but the article leaves me with little or no sense of Eisenhower the man. His loves. His personality. His character. Article seems to avoid saying much personal about him. As one example of many, what about the momentous decision to go ahead with D-Day? No mention. What about his involvement with another woman during WW2? No mention. If Ike had little or no personality, perhaps that should be stated. But I don't think that is the case. What do his biographers say? AAABBB222 ( talk) 19:37, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
The categories at the end of the article seem really excessive. They seem to obscure the essential categories in a sea of what seem to me very tangential ones. As one example of many I could cite, Ike is listed as People from Abilene, Kansas; People from Denison, Texas; and People from Gettysburg, Pennsylvania. Normally, "from" means where one was born (Denison). Living various places during one's lifetime does not qualify as being "from" all those different places. I imagine someone has put a lot of effort adding the myriad categories, but I think it damages the article. AAABBB222 ( talk) 19:45, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
After the U.S. entered World War II, Eisenhower oversaw the successful invasions of North Africa and Sicily before supervising the invasions of France and Germany. says the article.
Hunh?
The North African invasion was only successful in that the Germans eventually withdrew. For the Americans, it was a series of disasters.
The main event in Sicily was the naval Battle of the Strait of Messina. This did not take place. Its non-occurrence is given inadequate coverage in history books: the result of the non-battle was the successful evacuation of German forces to Italy, with subsequent huge damage to Allied troops.
If these were successes, the world need never fear failure.
David Lloyd-Jones ( talk) 21:09, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
The section 'Legacy and memory' sums-up his political achievement. But there is no evaluation of his military contribution. Valetude ( talk) 18:34, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
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"Sites that contain neutral and accurate material that is relevant to an encyclopedic understanding of the subject and cannot be integrated into the Wikipedia article due to copyright issues, amount of detail (such as professional athlete statistics, movie or television credits, interview transcripts, or online textbooks), or other reasons.", so maybe some "can be integrated".
I can remember contemporaneous criticism of how much time Eisenhower spent playing golf (even though I was just a kid at the time). But are there any tallies of just how much time it actually was? BMJ-pdx ( talk) 09:51, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
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The article states that Ike was the executive officer to General George V. Mosely until 1933, when he became chief military aide to General Douglas MacArthur. How is it then possible that he participated in the violent suppression of the Bonus Army in 1932 as junior aide to MacArthur? There seems to be missing one part in his career, a relativly unpopular one. -- Beliar ( talk) 18:56, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
Should the health section mention that he began to suffer from cholelithiasis in August 1966, for which he underwent surgery on 12 December 1966? ( 92.7.4.161 ( talk) 13:51, 12 August 2011 (UTC))
My first time commenting, but I am pretty sure Eisenhower did not campaign for tabasco sauce. His K1C2 slogan was "communism, corruption and Korea". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.136.192.166 ( talk) 21:23, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
I'm wondering if a new section could, should be added as I just read, "EX US President Eisenhower was briefed about the presence of extraterrestrial intelligent beings on Earth and was invited to meet alien visitors. Henry W. McElroy, Jr, retiring State Representative to New Hampshire, declared this week that former US President Eisenhower was briefed about the presence of extraterrestrial intelligent beings on Earth.
McElroy also said that the document he viewed while at the State Legislature made referrence to the opportunity for Eisenhower to meet the alien visitors.
The Daily Telegraph May 25, 2010 9:00AM
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/weird/president-told-aliens-are-on-earth/story-e6frev20-1225870887598?from=public_rss"Matthew 19:14, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
I believe the Iranian coup d'etat warrants mention in the introduction since it is a highly controversial event (the United States and United Kingdom deposing an elected leader of a country in order to restore a dictator to power). The foreign policy section ought to mention the fact that no less a person than his own Vice President Richard Nixon claimed that Eisenhower later regretted saving Colonel Nasser in 1956. Also Roger Makins' contemporary account of the secret discussions between Eisenhower and Harold Macmillan at the White House on 25 September 1956 largely confirmed Macmillan's account of the meeting - that Eisenhower talked of the US and UK cooperating to overthrow Nasser, and that the main objective was regime change rather than ownership of the Canal. ( 92.7.14.190 ( talk) 20:15, 12 December 2011 (UTC))
I was just worried readers might wonder why Eisenhower was reluctant to remove Colonel Nasser in the same way after he had declared himself President of Egypt in a rigged election. ( 92.7.14.190 ( talk) 20:33, 12 December 2011 (UTC))
The United States already had its own plan to bring down Nasser by political and financial means rather than the use of force. The UK's ambassador to Washington Roger Makins was at the secret White House meeting on 25 September, his contemporary report of what was said shows Eisenhower did discuss regime change for Egypt. Furthermore it is worth mentioning that Nixon said Eisenhower told him he regretted saving the Egyptian dictator. ( 92.7.6.232 ( talk) 14:26, 13 December 2011 (UTC))
As relayed in Charles Williams' book, Ambassador Makins' official account at the time of the conversation between Eisenhower and Harold Macmillan records Eisenhower talking about the need to "bring Nasser down", which the President agreed was the main issue rather than the Suez Canal. This needs to be mentioned, as it is therefore not surprising that Macmillan assumed the US government would support the military attempt to remove Nasser. ( MuammarGunshot ( talk) 18:14, 12 January 2012 (UTC))
According to here:
President Eisenhower was born David Dwight Eisenhower, not Dwight David Eisenhower as some sources report. His family had always addressed him by his middle name (Dwight) to differentiate him from his father, who was also named David, and later came to be known as Dwight David Eisenhower. Birth records, the Eisenhower family bible, and the Eisenhower's themselves, all confirm he was born David Dwight Eisenhower, and later transposed his first and middle names.
-- Hodgson-Burnett's Secret Garden ( talk) 20:32, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
There is some overcrowding. I have initially removed the following image to help with this. File:American World War II senior military officials, 1945.JPEG|thumb|From left, front row includes army officers Simpson, Patton, Spaatz, Eisenhower, Bradley, Hodges and Gerow in 1945. Hoppyh ( talk) 20:08, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
I have removed the following image at Buchenwald and am replacing it with a pic of the surrender at Rheims, since this is mentioned in the body of the article while the Buchenwald pic is not. File:Ohrdruf Eisenhower 04649.jpg|thumb|210px|Ike views dead prisoners at Buchenwald, 1945. Hoppyh ( talk) 21:29, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
I have removed the following quote from a speech Ike never gave, the idea being that the article should use statements actually made. Feel free to restore if deemed appropriate.
This book review and the book itself can provide additional detail on the life of Eisehower: http://www.economist.com/node/21550240 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.123.41.188 ( talk) 15:56, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
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I previously removed (and will remove again) the speculation attributed to Ambrose about Eisenhower never accepting Plesy v Ferguson. There is -no- documentary evidence of any such statement, and the interview in which Ambrose claims he said it never happened (see the New Yorker "Channeling Ike" article for more on Ambrose's fabrication). Below is a footnote from Smith's "Eisenhower in War and Peace" to explain it further.
Please do not add this quote back without some other reference than Ambrose's interview, as I think no serious historian believe it happened (or at least I was unable to find anyone seriously supporting it).
"1984, Stephen Ambrose published the first of several biographies of Eisenhower. In it he stated that “Eisenhower personally wished that the Court had upheld Plessy v. Ferguson.” The allegation is repeated by Ambrose in his subsequent works. Because of Ambrose’s position as an associate editor of the Eisenhower Papers, a generation of historians have accepted his version of Ike’s views. Ambrose provides no documentation, no references, and cites only “private” conversations. The fact is Ambrose cut the allegation from whole cloth. There is no evidence whatsoever to sustain Ambrose’s claim. David A. Nichols, in his definitive study of Eisenhower and civil rights, writes that “there is no credible evidence” for Ambrose’s assertion; Blanche Wiesen Cook, one of the earliest researchers in the archives of the Eisenhower Library, found none, nor have I. In the April 26, 2010, issue of The New Yorker magazine, Richard Rayner reports that Ambrose’s alleged interviews with Eisenhower never took place. The record does not sustain that he ever met privately with Ike. Timothy D. Rives, deputy director of the Eisenhower Presidential Library, provided chapter and verse sustaining Rayner’s conclusions in a subsequent article appearing online on George Mason University’s History News Network, May 17, 2010.
Smith, Jean Edward (2012-02-21). Eisenhower in War and Peace (Kindle Locations 13977-13987). Random House, Inc.. Kindle Edition. " — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.197.182.198 ( talk) 02:38, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
I've noticed that someone has de-linked " President of the United States" in the lead and infobox for this article, as well as the Harry S. Truman article. It's not a terribly urgent thing, but I wonder why this is the case. I'm not one for undoing someone's contribution if I'm not certain of the intention. So, what's the purpose of de-linking the title in the lead and infobox? Tyrol5 [Talk] 16:38, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
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Ike's heart failure is mentioned as the cause of death on the page, but not the contributing adrenal pheochromocytoma, which plagued Ike for years. See "The President and the Pheochromocytoma," http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17478167 Any mention of this would increase public awareness of this condition. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.165.229.61 ( talk) 13:13, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
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Hello, Nationality information of < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_D._Eisenhower> is not available now. I was using this information which is connected to nationality property of dbpedia resource < http://dbpedia.org/resource/Dwight_D._Eisenhower>. I use this resource to executing FedBench Cross Domain queries (for this topic it is result of http://iwb.fluidops.com:7879/resource/fbench:q/cross-domain_3 ), for evaluation phase of federated query engine. I want to receive result to this query without being obliged to download and open an subset of old dbpedia dump uploaded in fedbench, naturally I want to query original dbpedia endpoint < http://dbpedia.org/sparql> and receive up to date result. Please add nationality information < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States> to this resource < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_D._Eisenhower>, so it will be updated on dbpedia after editing on wikipedia. Regards, Burak Yönyül Burakyonyul ( talk) 11:23, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi, The nationality information is avilable on this president : < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clements?oldid=493288459> and on many others. Isn't it nice to add this information to < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_D._Eisenhower> too. So it will be consistent with most of other American presidents. Regards, Burak Yönyül — Preceding unsigned comment added by Burakyonyul ( talk • contribs) 06:32, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
search for "do not see now" which should be "do not see how", it seems. Benvhoff ( talk) 08:38, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
The introduction to the article claims that the name Eisenhauer was changed to Eisenhower when the family immigrated from Germany. However, according to Michael Korda's book, Ike (page 60), Jacob Eisenhauer, Ike's grandfather, kept the name, at least for some time. By the time Ike's father opened a general store, the name had been changed to Eisenhower (page 63). The reference is: Korda, M., "Ike: an American Hero", 2007, Harper Collins. Pigdog234 ( talk) 09:54, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
By the way, the German spelling had changed around 1650. Before that "Frau" had been spelled "Fraw" and "hauen" was written "hawen" (also "und" was written "vnd" ect.). So it's very likely, that the German Eisenhower family had been spelled "Eisenhawer", or actually even more likely "Eysenhawer".-- Demoiselle Clarisse ( talk) 16:59, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
In this section President at Columbia University and NATO Supreme Commander
"a study group he led as president concerning the political and military implications of the Marshall Plan"
Linking "Marshall Plan" to its article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan, would be useful
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The article doesn't mention any promotions after the promotion to Brigadier General. Shouldn't this info be inserted? Ishboyfay ( talk) 00:08, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
Should we not perhaps avoid the use of "Ike" when referring to President Eisenhower except where required by context? Phrases such as "Conner's comment on Ike was..." and "Ike's sense of responsibility was underscored by his draft of a statement to be issued if the invasion failed..." presuppose an unwarranted familiarity
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The second to last sentence of the third paragraph of the "Early life and education" section reads as follows: "In 1948, Eisenhower said he was "one of the most deeply religious men I know" though unattached to any "sect or organization"."
This sentence, nor the previous sentence, alludes to who Eisenhower is talking about (who "he" is). Is he talking about himself? This is confusing and random; please remove the sentence or correct it. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.128.77.251 ( talk) 20:56, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
Any citations that use Stephen Ambrose should be removed. Ambrose novel's embellish certain aspects of Eisenhower's life by citing interviews that were in reality much shorter than Ambrose proclaimed, and the author repeatedly ignores facts in order to create a more complete narrative. http://www.newyorker.com/talk/2010/04/26/100426ta_talk_rayner Cheers, Reddevil1421 ( talk) 23:11, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
I just counted 84 categories for this page. Should this be reduced? 84 is alot.-- Solomonfromfinland ( talk) 15:55, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
How are Eisenhower terms "peacefull" if he was President during the Korean War. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.109.103.190 ( talk) 17:24, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
from the section on President at Columbia University and NATO Supreme Commander "During that year Eisenhower's memoir, Crusade in Europe, ....Eisenhower's profit on the book was substantially aided by an unprecedented ruling by the Treasury Department that Eisenhower was not a professional writer, but rather, marketing the lifetime asset of his experiences, and thus only had to pay capital gains tax on his $635,000 advance instead of the much higher personal tax rate. The ruling saved Eisenhower approximately $400,000. " Very interesting. How much during Eisenhower's presidency did the tax rates change? How much was his influence on these changes ? Wfoj2 ( talk) 23:35, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
I was thinking of adding a sub-section as to the May 1960, U-2 incident with pilot, Francis Gary Powers. The matter is very briefly mentioned and linked in the lede but not in the body of the article, as it should be. Kierzek ( talk) 00:56, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
Something like this:
On May 1, 1960, a U.S. one-man U-2 spy plane was reportedly shot down at high altitude over the airspace of the Soviet Union. The U-2 "spy-in-the-sky" was allowed to use the Pakistan Air Force portion of Peshawar Airport to gain vital photo intelligence in an era before satellite observation over the Soviet Union. Previously, on April 9, 1960, there had been a successful U-2 flight over the southern national boundary of the Soviet Union in the area of Pamir Mountains and it flew over four Soviet top secret military installations. The U-2 was detected by the Soviet Air Defense Forces but avoided interception and landed safely in Iran.
On May 1, fifteen days before the scheduled opening of an East–West summit conference in Paris, Captain Francis Gary Powers, left in a U-2 from the US base in Peshawar to overfly the Soviet Union, photographing ICBM sites in and around Sverdlovsk and Plesetsk, then land at Bodø in Norway. Flying over the Soviet Union, the U-2 was detected, however, it could not be brought down by standard fighter-jet aircraft. The U-2 was eventually brought down near Degtyarsk, Ural Region, by the first of several SA-2 Guideline (S-75 Dvina) surface-to-air missiles. Powers bailed out and was captured soon after parachuting down onto Russian soil. Four days after Powers disappeared, NASA issued a very detailed press release noting that an aircraft had "gone missing" north of Turkey. The press release speculated that the pilot might have fallen unconscious while the autopilot was still engaged, even falsely claiming that "the pilot reported over the emergency frequency that he was experiencing oxygen difficulties."
Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev announced to the Supreme Soviet of the Soviet Union, and thus the world, that a "spy-plane" had been shot down but intentionally made no reference to the pilot. As a result, the Eisenhower Administration, thinking the pilot had died in the crash, authorized the release of a cover story claiming that the plane was a "weather research aircraft" which had unintentionally strayed into Soviet airspace after the pilot had radioed "difficulties with his oxygen equipment" while flying over Turkey. The Soviets put Captain Powers on trial and displayed parts of the U-2 spy plane which had been recovered almost fully intact. The 1960 Four Power Paris Summit between President Dwight Eisenhower, Nikita Khrushchev, Harold Macmillan and Charles de Gaulle collapsed, in large part because Eisenhower refused to accede to Khrushchev's demands that he apologize for the incident. Powers was interrogated extensively by the KGB for months before he made a forced confession and a public apology. The incident set back talks between Khrushchev and Eisenhower. On August 19, 1960, Powers was convicted of espionage against the Soviet Union and sentenced to three years in imprisonment followed by seven years of hard labor. He served one year and nine months of the sentence before being exchanged for Rudolf Abel on February 10, 1962.
I will add in the cites. Most of it is copy edits from the U-2 incident article. What do you think? Kierzek ( talk) 02:13, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
On May 1, 1960, a U.S. one-man U-2 spy plane was reportedly shot down at high altitude over the airspace of the Soviet Union. The U-2 "spy-in-the-sky" was allowed to use the Pakistan Air Force portion of Peshawar Airport to gain vital photo intelligence in an era before satellite observation over the Soviet Union.
The flight occurred fifteen days before the scheduled opening of an East–West summit conference in Paris. Once over the Soviet Union, the U-2 was detected. The U-2 was eventually brought down by a SA-2 Guideline (S-75 Dvina) surface-to-air missile. Captain Francis Gary Powers bailed out and was captured soon after parachuting down onto Russian soil. Four days after Powers disappeared, the Eisenhower Administration had NASA issue a very detailed press release noting that an aircraft had "gone missing" north of Turkey. The press release speculated that the pilot might have fallen unconscious while the autopilot was still engaged, even falsely claiming that "the pilot reported over the emergency frequency that he was experiencing oxygen difficulties."
Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev announced that a "spy-plane" had been shot down but intentionally made no reference to the pilot. As a result, the Eisenhower Administration, thinking the pilot had died in the crash, authorized the release of a cover story claiming that the plane was a "weather research aircraft" which had unintentionally strayed into Soviet airspace after the pilot had radioed "difficulties with his oxygen equipment" while flying over Turkey. The Soviets put Captain Powers on trial and displayed parts of the U-2 spy plane which had been recovered almost fully intact. The 1960 Four Power Paris Summit between President Dwight Eisenhower, Nikita Khrushchev, Harold Macmillan and Charles de Gaulle collapsed, in large part because Eisenhower refused to accede to Khrushchev's demands that he apologize for the incident. Up until this event, Eisenhower felt he had been making progress towards better relations with the Soviet Union. At the summit, nuclear arms reduction and Berlin were to have been discussed. Eisenhower stated it had all been ruined because of that "stupid U-2 business". The affair was an embarrassment for United States prestige. Further, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee held a lengthy inquiry into the U-2 incident. In Russia, Captain Powers was interrogated extensively by the KGB before he made a forced confession and a public apology. On August 19, 1960, Powers was convicted of espionage against the Soviet Union and sentenced to three years in imprisonment followed by seven years of hard labor. On February 10, 1962, Powers was exchanged for Rudolf Abel in Berlin and returned to the U.S.
On May 1, 1960, a U.S. one-man U-2 spy plane was reportedly shot down at high altitude over the airspace of the Soviet Union. The flight was made to gain photo intelligence before the scheduled opening of an East–West summit conference which had been scheduled in Paris, 15 days later. [1] Captain Francis Gary Powers had bailed out and was captured soon after parachuting down onto Russian soil. Four days after Powers disappeared, the Eisenhower Administration had NASA issue a very detailed press release noting that an aircraft had "gone missing" north of Turkey. The press release speculated that the pilot might have fallen unconscious while the autopilot was still engaged, even falsely claiming that "the pilot reported over the emergency frequency that he was experiencing oxygen difficulties." [2]
Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev announced that a "spy-plane" had been shot down but intentionally made no reference to the pilot. As a result, the Eisenhower Administration, thinking the pilot had died in the crash, authorized the release of a cover story claiming that the plane was a "weather research aircraft" which had unintentionally strayed into Soviet airspace after the pilot had radioed "difficulties with his oxygen equipment" while flying over Turkey. [3] The Soviets put Captain Powers on trial and displayed parts of the U-2 which had been recovered almost fully intact. The 1960 Four Power Paris Summit between President Dwight Eisenhower, Nikita Khrushchev, Harold Macmillan and Charles de Gaulle collapsed because of the incident. Eisenhower refused to accede to Khrushchev's demands that he apologize. Therefore Khrushchev would not take part in the summit. Up until this event, Eisenhower felt he had been making progress towards better relations with the Soviet Union. At the summit, nuclear arms reduction and Berlin were to have been discussed. Eisenhower stated it had all been ruined because of that "stupid U-2 business". [4] The affair was an embarrassment for United States prestige. Further, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee held a lengthy inquiry into the U-2 incident. [4] In Russia, Captain Powers made a forced confession and apology. On August 19, 1960, Powers was convicted of espionage and sentenced to imprisonment. On February 10, 1962, Powers was exchanged for Rudolf Abel in Berlin and returned to the U.S.
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Kierzek ( talk) 17:29, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
The article stated that Eisenhower reprimanded Patton for giving a "grossly errant speech". Actually, that event has been exaggerated. Patton made that speech in Knutsford in which he said it was "the evident destiny of the British and the Americans - and of course, the Russians - to rule the world after the war." Unfortunately, many newspaper accounts left out the part about the Russians, and Patton was unfairly accused of snubbing them. Eisenhower was told the facts, but he still considered relieving Patton of command for the simple reason that he was getting sick and tired of having to cover for him. Patton had no business commenting on postwar policy, so he deserved the reprimand, but let's not accuse him of more than he actually did. 97.73.64.156 ( talk) 01:44, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
Article needs a section on the 1956 election 156.99.108.1 ( talk) 18:57, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
A user boldly removed a bunch of award categories from the article. I temporarily reversed this because I think such a major change should probably be discussed. It's questionable to me whether some of these award categories should exist—but here, the question is while they do exist, should this article be removed from all of them, some of them, or none of them? Good Ol’factory (talk) 20:00, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
Should the "Presidency" sections be significantly shortened, with the bulk of its material moved over to Presidency of Dwight D. Eisenhower? Even though that's supposedly the "main article" about his presidency, the Presidency section here is far more comprehensive on the subject than is that entire article. As things stand currently, it actually seems pointless to me for that article to even exist. 76.169.117.161 ( talk) 06:53, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
Why isn't there a part about criticism of Eisenhower? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.234.203.191 ( talk) 12:18, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
This statement rings phoney: "Dwight developed a keen and enduring interest in exploring outdoors, hunting/fishing, cooking and card playing from an illiterate named Bob Davis who lived by the river." It sounds like the SNL sketch of the motivational speaker who lives in a van down by the river. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.253.136.138 ( talk) 17:49, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
Never mind. Reference [6] p. 23 has thr Bob Davis story. Davis is described as a trapper, guide, and fisherman (and illiterate), but does not locate his residence by the river.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.253.136.138 ( talk) 18:07, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
Another citation request, for the statement "Upon discovery of the Nazi concentration camps, he ordered camera crews to document evidence of the atrocities in them for use in the Nuremberg Trials." There are varying versions of whom he ordered to visit the concentration camps (the other version says any US troops that were nearby: "Eisenhower also ordered every American soldier in the area who was not on the front lines to visit Ohrdruf and Buchenwald." -- this version is at the Eisenhower Memorial website on the Wayback Machine, at http://web.archive.org/web/20041112001453/http://www.eisenhowermemorial.org/stories/death-camps.htm ). Does anyone know of a source that quotes the order verbatim? WilliamWQuick ( talk) — Preceding undated comment added 18:06, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
The infobox has his birth name as David Dwight Eisenhower without any explanation. Surely that isn't correct, is it? 92.40.249.156 ( talk) 22:12, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
Moments ago I added this column as a source for the listing at List of contract bridge people#Famous people and bridge:
-- P64 ( talk) 18:42, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
The next to last paragraph in the "Tributes and Memorials" section states:
"President Dwight D. Eisenhower, an Augusta National member, hit the tree so many times that, at a 1956 club meeting, he proposed that it be cut down. Not wanting to offend the president, the club's chairman, Clifford Roberts, immediately adjourned the meeting rather than reject the request."
However, the cited source states: "Clifford Roberts, the club chairman and co-founder, overruled the president and adjourned the meeting."
This is obviously not a matter of great importance. However, because I have mislaid my Wikipedia login information, I will leave any changes to active editors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.208.246.22 ( talk) 13:47, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
I did not see any referrals to Eisenhower issuing executive order 10450, for which called the investigation and firing of anyone who is gay in the U.S. civil service. This is source in many places including here in Wikipedia. Would any of you object if I mention it here? Allyn ( talk) 21:48, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
The 1953 Iranian coup d'état must be mentioned in the introduction, as it was by far the most controversial event of his presidency. ( FrancesJefferson ( talk) 16:58, 23 August 2015 (UTC))
FYI, FrancesJefferson has been blocked as yet another sock of HarveyCarter. Favonian ( talk) 18:15, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
As anyone that studies Eisenhower knows by now, anything that Ambrose attributes to his "personal interviews" with Eisenhower, which didn't actually take place, need to be vetted from a third source. And not one that just points back to the same inventions.
There are two totally discredited urban legends that people come along and add for some reason:
1) That Eisenhower stated that Earl Warren was his "worst mistake as President" because Warren was progressive. Never said it. Didn't happen. Or at least we can't prove it. If you can, and it does not involve a chain of references back to fictional Amrbose inventions, please add it back.
2) That Eisenhower made some statement about Southerners not being "all that bad", they just "don't want some big black buck sitting next to their little blonde girl" (paraphrased). Again, no one has a credible reference for this.
Please do not add these back without a non-circular reference back to the same discredited or absent source. They are exceptionally ad-hominem and exception claims require exceptional evidence.
I'd really like to lock that section until people figure it out, but so far as I'm aware you cannot lock only a section. Davepl ( talk) 01:57, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
While the fact that Eisenhower had stated that Earl Warren was his "worst mistake as President" is disputed, it is not an urban legend that Eisenhower told Earl Warren that Southerners "don't want some big black buck sitting next to their little blonde girl". Warren himself stated that in his memoirs, published after his death in 1974. There are reliable sources: [2], [3] [4]! Olegwiki ( talk) 20:58, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
It is not only the NYTimes article, there are other reliable sources which I have mentioned. Olegwiki ( talk) 11:47, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
I don't know, that looks like an unsubstantiated quote of a quote, not original reporting by the NYT. If an NYT reporter heard it an reported it, that'd be plenty. Given there are NO first-person accounts, it likely was never said (as a guess). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.17.192.70 ( talk) 18:43, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
Also, of the references about the "Big Buck" comment only the third carries any weight, and I can't tell what the citation is there, as it's ALSO not a direct quote (but if you have the book or Google Books does and can tell me what -their- source is, their note 18, that'd be handy). 24.17.192.70 ( talk) 18:45, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
Several years ago I had an acquaintance who was friendly with a blood relative (whom I rather not name) of President Eisenhower. I knew that Ike was a heavy smoker for years but didn’t know at the time if he had ever quit. Out of curiosity, I asked my acquaintance to ask his friend that question which he kindly did. He responded that his friend had replied that it was funny that he asked him that question. Ike’s relative had been doing some research (perhaps for a projected biography) and discovered that while at Columbia there was an unaccounted for period when Ike was in seclusion and when he reemerged he had quit smoking. Ike’s relative recounted that there was speculation that Ike had suffered a minor heart attack which had been covered up due to his possible interest in running for president. This article states that Ike had “given himself an order” to quit in 1949, but says nothing about his reasons.
I know this cannot be added to the article as it is purely anecdotal and speculative at that. I just thought it was interesting. HistoryBuff14 ( talk) 22:54, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
Eisenhower's deportation of Mexicans in Operation Wetback has been in the news lately. Shouldn't this at least be mentioned in the DDE article? Kdammers ( talk) 18:27, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
Eisenhower did a lot to help the French in Vietnam. The introduction was misleading so I corrected it. ( 79.67.120.118 ( talk) 16:20, 16 November 2015 (UTC))
According to the first episode of the current (2015-2016) season of America: Facts vs. Fiction (Tuesdays on the American Heroes Channel), Eisenhower's full name is David Dwight Eisenhower, not Dwight David Eisenhower.
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Should I add the category of 'American People of Scotch-Irish Descent' to this article. This category has been removed before. It is known that his father was primarily Swiss-German, but his maternal great-grandmother, Mary Ann Hannah was the daughter of Scottish-Irish settlers Robert Hannah, born in Ulster, Ireland and Mary Kilpatrick, also born in Ulster. Details of this Scotch-Irish ancestry can be found here.
I'll leave it out. However, I've found a newspaper article from the Times Daily in 1953, saying that Eisenhower had 'a trace of Irish on his maternal side'. Although, this would imply Native Irish ancestry, rather than Scots-Irish. If you'd like to look at this for yourself, here is a link. I'm unsure as to who wrote the article or it's accuracy.-- JoeyofScotia ( talk) 19:43, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
I have not changed the quoted paragraph below, but I am in strong disbelief that Switzerland was an inspiration for the US highway system. It was rather the other way around, since the first material stretch of Swiss "autobahn" was only built in the 1960ies. See also Motorways_of_Switzerland. Furthermore, Eisenhower did not have any Army experiences in Switzerland during World War II. The country remained neutral and was not invaded by any of the belligerent parties.
A related source is provided in the article's 'Interstate Highway System' section and reads as follows: "While in Europe during World War II General Eisenhower viewed the ease of travel on the German autobahns. That, coupled with the experiences of a young Lt. Col. Eisenhower in the 1919 Transcontinental Convoy, convinced the President of the overwhelming need for safer and speedier highways." Based on this mention of only Germany, I've removed Austria and Switzerland from the sentence in question, and repeated the source citation. — ADavidB 03:23, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
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I notice that the lede sentence was just changed to remove "politician" and "general". The phrasing "American politician and general who was the 34th president of the United States" (or "who served as") has been in the lede sentence for a couple of years, I believe. But earlier (2014 at least) it followed the pattern of this recent revision, "…was the 34th president of the United States", omitting "politician" and leaving the generalship to the next sentence. Has there ever been discussion or consensus about how to describe him in the opening sentence? (I became aware of this change because it seems to be inspired by an as-yet-unresolved discussion about how to describe Donald Trump in his biography's lede sentence.) -- MelanieN ( talk) 01:52, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
Apparently the maintenance template with links to the guidelines wasn't enough of an explanation to why they were added, so I re-added them and am making a note in the talk page about this.
The lead is too long for this article. I would alter the lead myself, but I feel it is best to leave that to the people who know what information is best to have in the lead. Thanks. {MordeKyle} ☢ 20:12, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
I also agree with this. I am no expert on Ike so I won't be doing anything with it but I highly recommend a person experienced in the field of U.S. Presidents and WWII Generals to edit this so that it is suitable. This article in my opinion is nearing good article class it just needs a bit of improvement here and there (introduction) and then I believe it will be promoted. So yeah anyone who can fix it please fix it! CnocBride ( talk) 11:58, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
Hi,
Eisenhower's sidebar states that his military service resumed in 1965 until 1969 but there is no source or mention of this in the body of the article. Can anyone shed any light on this?
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Why did Eisenhower support European imperialism in Iran and Vietnam, yet oppose it in Egypt? ( 86.144.85.72 ( talk) 09:04, 15 May 2017 (UTC))
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Source 1 = http://www.kansas.com/news/business/aviation/article61951312.html Source 2 = http://www.bizjournals.com/wichita/news/2016/11/22/10-minutes-with-merrill-atwater-kansas-department.html Source 3 = http://ingrams.com/article/40-under-forty-the-class-of-2017/ Source 4 = http://www.toledoblade.com/Education/2013/04/02/Ike-s-great-grandson-to-help-mark-school-s-50th.html He even refers to his great-grandfather as “Ike,” using the two-term president’s boyhood nickname that stayed with him all his life. Mr. Atwater’s mother is Mary Jean Eisenhower, the president’s granddaughter. She was born in Washington during Mr. Eisenhower’s first term and christened in the Blue Room of the White House. Source 4 = "Other honors[edit] The city of Marshfield, Missouri chose Eisenhower as a 2008 honoree of the Edwin P. Hubble Medal of Initiative.[11] His grandson, Merrill Eisenhower Atwater spoke on his behalf at Marshfield's annual Cherry Blossom Festival. The medal recognizes individuals who demonstrate great initiative in their chosen field." /info/en/?search=John_Eisenhower |answered=no 2602:304:CDB7:6B20:9F6:2211:D3AF:BAAC ( talk) 02:33, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
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Merrill Eisenhower Atwater is the biological son of Mary Eisenhower but is NOT the son of James Brewton Millard. They don't even share a last name. Please just move the line below Mary's name. https://www.admin.ks.gov/offices/news-events/news-releases/2015/10/07/dwight-d.-eisenhower-inducted-into-kansas-walk-of-honor 104.181.110.211 ( talk) 16:30, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
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Eisenhower received an honorary doctorate degree from Dartmouth college in 1953. It should be mentioned. Vwchong ( talk) 04:54, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
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I took out the old "Warren was my biggest mistake" quote because it's bogus and creeps back in every couple of years. He didn't say it, and even if he did, there's no reliable source for it that I've ever seen (besides people claiming they heard someone say they heard it third hand, etc).
He might have -thought- if for all I know, but Wikipedia isn't for mind reading. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.17.192.70 ( talk) 19:05, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
Eisenhower regretted the Brennan and Warren appointments, saying in 1961 that the two greatest mistakes of his presidency were "both sitting on the Supreme Court." [1]
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- ^ Hentoff, Nat. Living the Bill of Rights: How to Be an Authentic American, p. 28 (University of California Press, 1999).
Is there any evidence this was not said to Fred Friendly in 1961? Anythingyouwant ( talk) 20:46, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
The article does not mention the fact that thousands of German civilians and POWs starved to death under his administration, which some have called criminal. Also Eisenhower's alliance with Spain was highly controversial as it was only financial aid from the US that enabled Franco to remain in power and pursue ruinous economic policies. Without that aid it is likely the Spanish people would have risen up and tried to overthrow him. ( 5.81.222.218 ( talk) 23:28, 18 January 2018 (UTC))
I think the extensive quotes from Brad Sears and Judith Atkins, recently added to the footnotes in the “Civil rights: LGBT” section (references 207-212), are excessive. I think we should trim them significantly (a key sentence or two is a typical footnote quote) or remove them entirely. If people want more information about the subject, they can click on the link. What do others think? -- MelanieN ( talk) 23:28, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
Just as we must include this section we must be accurate - it wasn't rampant homophobia that drove it, it was the belief that being gay in the 1950s made you a target of blackmail and exploitation. Same as alcoholics and the mentally ill - which the act also covered - it wasn't about "getting them out": It wasn't about the supposed character of the gay person but the ability of others to target them. We don't really explain this at all in the section, and it just comes across as anti-gay. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.17.192.70 ( talk) 18:26, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but the article leaves me with little or no sense of Eisenhower the man. His loves. His personality. His character. Article seems to avoid saying much personal about him. As one example of many, what about the momentous decision to go ahead with D-Day? No mention. What about his involvement with another woman during WW2? No mention. If Ike had little or no personality, perhaps that should be stated. But I don't think that is the case. What do his biographers say? AAABBB222 ( talk) 19:37, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
The categories at the end of the article seem really excessive. They seem to obscure the essential categories in a sea of what seem to me very tangential ones. As one example of many I could cite, Ike is listed as People from Abilene, Kansas; People from Denison, Texas; and People from Gettysburg, Pennsylvania. Normally, "from" means where one was born (Denison). Living various places during one's lifetime does not qualify as being "from" all those different places. I imagine someone has put a lot of effort adding the myriad categories, but I think it damages the article. AAABBB222 ( talk) 19:45, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
After the U.S. entered World War II, Eisenhower oversaw the successful invasions of North Africa and Sicily before supervising the invasions of France and Germany. says the article.
Hunh?
The North African invasion was only successful in that the Germans eventually withdrew. For the Americans, it was a series of disasters.
The main event in Sicily was the naval Battle of the Strait of Messina. This did not take place. Its non-occurrence is given inadequate coverage in history books: the result of the non-battle was the successful evacuation of German forces to Italy, with subsequent huge damage to Allied troops.
If these were successes, the world need never fear failure.
David Lloyd-Jones ( talk) 21:09, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
The section 'Legacy and memory' sums-up his political achievement. But there is no evaluation of his military contribution. Valetude ( talk) 18:34, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
"There is nothing wrong with adding one or more useful content-relevant links to the external links section of an article;". WP:ELPOINTS #3 states,
"Links in the "External links" section should be kept to a minimum. A lack of external links or a small number of external links is not a reason to add external links.", and WP:ELYES #3 states,
"Sites that contain neutral and accurate material that is relevant to an encyclopedic understanding of the subject and cannot be integrated into the Wikipedia article due to copyright issues, amount of detail (such as professional athlete statistics, movie or television credits, interview transcripts, or online textbooks), or other reasons.", so maybe some "can be integrated".
I can remember contemporaneous criticism of how much time Eisenhower spent playing golf (even though I was just a kid at the time). But are there any tallies of just how much time it actually was? BMJ-pdx ( talk) 09:51, 25 November 2018 (UTC)