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The lead should reflect what is in the body of this article, namely that this diagnosis has been and still is controversial. The following properly cited sentence was removed from the lead. "It remains a controversial diagnosis." It is UNDUE to remove a single sentence mentionioning this fact from the lead. Here are just a few of the citations which backup the word the literal word "controversial" let alone the general notion of this being a contested diagnosis:
I can keep doing this, but I think it's clear at this point that DID remains controversial. It is UNDUE to keep any mention of that fact out of the lead, and it goes against WP:DUE, WP:BALANCE, WP:LEADFOLLOWSBODY. Cheers. DolyaIskrina ( talk) 21:33, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
اكتب 37.40.121.109 ( talk) 21:46, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
...Seen a Law & Order episode featuring this. In this, a woman was arrested for a grisly murder. It turned out that she has this mental illness. Can a In Fiction section be used? Thanks. Nuclear Sergeant ( talk) 16:13, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
The character "Mike" from the TV show Total Drama: Revenge of the Island stated that he had Multiple Personality Disorder 174.168.61.76 ( talk) 18:29, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
The infobox is particularly problematic because it presents one cause "the trauma model" as fact, when it is
disputed by the scientific community. It is particularly difficult to include the sociogenic model in there too. Infoboxes are not required on articles, and I think this might well constitute a
WP:DISINFOBOX: "A box aggressively attracts the marginally literate eye with apparent promises to contain a reductive summary of information; not all information can be so neatly contained. Like a bulleted list, or a timeline that substitutes for genuine history, it offers a competitive counter-article, stripped of nuance. As a substitute for accuracy and complexity, a box trumps all discourse"
.The problem is I cannot see how it would be "improved" without becoming absurdly long and confusing. Thus, it makes more sense to remove it entirely.
Zenomonoz (
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or at least make it sure that it's clear that DID is a fictitious disorder 2A00:23C8:903:FE01:2C69:DE3A:315D:3FD3 ( talk) 15:25, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
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The lead should reflect what is in the body of this article, namely that this diagnosis has been and still is controversial. The following properly cited sentence was removed from the lead. "It remains a controversial diagnosis." It is UNDUE to remove a single sentence mentionioning this fact from the lead. Here are just a few of the citations which backup the word the literal word "controversial" let alone the general notion of this being a contested diagnosis:
I can keep doing this, but I think it's clear at this point that DID remains controversial. It is UNDUE to keep any mention of that fact out of the lead, and it goes against WP:DUE, WP:BALANCE, WP:LEADFOLLOWSBODY. Cheers. DolyaIskrina ( talk) 21:33, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
اكتب 37.40.121.109 ( talk) 21:46, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
...Seen a Law & Order episode featuring this. In this, a woman was arrested for a grisly murder. It turned out that she has this mental illness. Can a In Fiction section be used? Thanks. Nuclear Sergeant ( talk) 16:13, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
The character "Mike" from the TV show Total Drama: Revenge of the Island stated that he had Multiple Personality Disorder 174.168.61.76 ( talk) 18:29, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
The infobox is particularly problematic because it presents one cause "the trauma model" as fact, when it is
disputed by the scientific community. It is particularly difficult to include the sociogenic model in there too. Infoboxes are not required on articles, and I think this might well constitute a
WP:DISINFOBOX: "A box aggressively attracts the marginally literate eye with apparent promises to contain a reductive summary of information; not all information can be so neatly contained. Like a bulleted list, or a timeline that substitutes for genuine history, it offers a competitive counter-article, stripped of nuance. As a substitute for accuracy and complexity, a box trumps all discourse"
.The problem is I cannot see how it would be "improved" without becoming absurdly long and confusing. Thus, it makes more sense to remove it entirely.
Zenomonoz (
talk) 22:15, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
or at least make it sure that it's clear that DID is a fictitious disorder 2A00:23C8:903:FE01:2C69:DE3A:315D:3FD3 ( talk) 15:25, 5 February 2024 (UTC)