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03:29, 26 August 2006 (UTC)03:29, 26 August 2006 (UTC)~~I believe its real however limited in its scope. Sort of like how the ripple effect disperses. I have had some profoud experiences where this description makes sense in the way which I can Identify. I would like to explore this more. whereas Not only have I been through what I once could only describe to myself as the threshold of a nervous breakdown ( in that I felt as though i could not absorb anymore input as in addition to process something out in some circumstances which was more profound at a point, peaked then gradually subsided. Greatly requiring proactive involvement like an athlete to overcome) associated with profound cas\tastrophical circumstances. I also observed this with many addicts and alcoholics and other traumaus as being something that I could observe but not b\put my finger on. This description very w/ emphasis makes some sense. I truly believe ther is something substai\]antial here and would like to come back to it.
the article reads that it is caused by psychological effects, but the examples of movies in which this occurs given in the article are about cases of physiological amnesia. one or the other should be changed· Lygophile has spoken 23:28, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
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I've moved the following section to the talk page for now at least - I don't see much merit in including case studies as they are single-incidents, making it difficult to draw any conclusions without being a synthesis. They've got a 'gee-whiz' factor, but nothing else, and I don't believe they're appropriate for the page as is. If anyone has any suggestions, feel free to make 'em. WLU ( talk) 17:19, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
References
I removed the following two references from the page - the first just seems like some guy's opinion (though referenced) and wasn't attached to any text. The second is a book, and also not attached to any section. If someone can replace the second as an in-line citation, that'd be great. I'd rather the first didn't go back at all, unless it justifies an unreferenced section and a pubmed article can't be found. WLU ( talk) 18:16, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Per our external links guidelines, I removed the following link, [1], it's a terrible choice for an EL, but a good source for the page itself. WLU ( talk) 17:30, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Some of this contains statements about abuse which propound theories of recovered memory syndrome, which is not accepted by some/most experts. Merkinsmum 22:18, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
http://server03.cpa-apc.org:8080/Publications/Archives/CJP/2005/november/cjp-nov-05-mcnally-IR-nov.pdf 81.101.251.160 ( talk) 14:41, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
The following sentence I strongly object to (and have commented out):
The study strongly suggested that "independent corroboration of recovered memories of abuse is often present" and that the recovery of the abuse memories generally is not associated with psychotherapy.
As I stated in my edit summary and my invisible comments, recovered memory is NOT the same thing as psychogenic amnesia - one is a diagnosed condition with extensive pubmed articles, discussion in very reliable source, a ICD number, section in the DSM and extensive medical research. Recovered memory is a suspect condition that is more political than medical, extremely suspect, and not comparable. If Chu discusses exclusively recovered memory, I don't think it's a good choice for the page.
I also dislike the statement about corroboration of recovered memories (which suggests there is reason to doubt) and the link with psychotherapy (psychogenic amnesia is treated with psychotherapy to retrieve and integrate memory; repressed and recovered memories are thought to be induced by suggestive, suspect and leading techniques used inappropriately by therapists). Psychogenic amnesia and repressed memory have different wikipedia pages, and I dislike the line between them being blurred. WLU ( talk) 00:50, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
I have added an EL on Dissociation and Trauma Archives, full text searchable articles and case studies published in the 1800s and early 1900s. ResearchEditor ( talk) 19:29, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
I'm just a kid who is doing a health project, but on the LSD page it says "There is also some indication that LSD may trigger a dissociative fugue state in individuals who are taking certain classes of antidepressants such as lithium salts and tricyclics."
Then on the Fugue State page it says that "Unlike retrograde amnesia, Dissociative Amnesia is not due to the direct physiological effects of a substance."
Now, that seems just a little bit wrong.
If I totally messed up the format, I'm sorry. Just wanted to let you people know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.161.91.108 ( talk) 23:01, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
I thought it might be worth thinking about... because child abuse, the case of the man who was abused in Japan with freeze drying experiments, etc point to this.-- Hitsuji Kinno ( talk) 02:05, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
As stated in DSM-IV and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissociative_disorder, Psychogenic amnesia is the former name for this syndrome, could someone please change this article's title to reflect this? Thanks Valethar ( talk) 14:05, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
Edit:Change it to Dissociative Amnesia, that is, as it is the current accepted name. Valethar ( talk) 14:07, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
I have made a large overhaul edit on the text introduction defining psychogenic amnesia, much has been edited out such as the term 'functional amnesia' stated as meaning the same as psychogenic amnesia (They are defined differently in the literature). I have edited out a few specific examples such as those 'found by Kopelman' that most cases of situation-specific psychogenic amnesia result from homocide..etc, one citation of such an example is not ample evidence that this is true. I have added in more definitions about fugue states, about the types of memory thought to be affected by psychogenic amnesia, and a little about its history in the literature. Most importantly I have added in information relating to the controversy surrounding the aetiology of psychogenic amnesia, it is a well hung-on-to notion in the literature but there is very little straightforward evidence of its true aetiology, especially since much of the 'evidence' are clinical anecdotes. It is important to present a critical view of the literature which I believe I have improved on in this entry, as it was previosuly defined as an open and shut case. Johunter ( talk) 11.56, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
I have removed the text which cited 'there are three types of memory; sensory, short-term, and long-term' as this is incorrect- there are more types of memory; for example working memory and procedural memory.
Another memory paragraph was removed; one that was referring to emotional memory. It says that 'emotional memory can be suppressed in non-mentally ill individuals in two stages' (Their reference= Depue BE, Curran T, Banich MT (2007). "Prefrontal regions orchestrate suppression of emotional memories via a two-phase process". Science 317 (5835): 215–9).First of all, the term non-mentally ill individuals is just bizzare, something like 'healthy' would be suffice. Secondly not only does the citation not make sense, it is irrelevant and unfounded. The article they cite (Depue et al.) uses a think/no think paradigm in which case not thinking about something is not the same as suppressing it (see Garry, M. & Loftus, E. F. (2004)I am freud's brain (Reserach Review), Skeptical Inquirer).
The paragrpah on traumatic memory has also been removed, as almost all sentences in the paragraph are unreferenced and seem more like opions; for example the sentence 'the younger the subject and the longer the trauma is, the greater the chance of significant amnesia' is not even referenced, and this is a big claim. There is no validation for such a claim. Also the sentence 'Not being able to integrate traumatic memories seems to be the main element which leads to PTSD' is not only irrelevant, it is also not referenced and is equallly a large unvalidated claim about the causation of PTSD (see McNally, R. J. (2003). Progress and controversy in the study of posttraumatic stress disorder. Annual Review of Psychology, 54, pg. 229). Information on the mechanisms of memory and on PTSD can be found on their own pages, this artcile should be kept relevant to its topic of psychogenic amnesia. Johunter ( talk) 10.01, 09 June 2012 (UTC)
This paragraph has been reworked and rephrased with more information added about how psychogenic amnesia is supposed to differ from organic amnesia, and also irrelevant information has been edited out. Although the main difference is supposed to be that psychogenic amnesia is of psychological rather than physical cause, there are other examples in the literature that distinuigh between them, and these are cited. It is mentioned that the differences remain controversial as, for example, psychological causes are often hard to find. Johunter ( talk) 13.24, 09 June 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.59.250.111 ( talk)
Information on the prevalence has been removed because it is unfounded and the examples given are not likely to be indicative of true prevalence rates. For example, one sentence read 'psychogenic amnesia was most strongly associated with severe and/or repeated traumas, and with traumas during childhood' but repeated traumas do not necessarily lead to more memory impairment than single traumas, nor does childhood trauma lead to memory impairment more than trauma during adulthood (see Williams, L. M. (1994). Recall of childhood trauma: A prospective study of women's memories of child sexual abuse. Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology, 62, 6, 1167-1176).
Johunter ( talk)15.28, 09 June 2012 (UTC)
The two 'real life' examples were removed; one was not referenced at all and the other was not corroborated, as is not much of the retrospective case studies in the literature which are cited as examples of psychogenic amnesia. The literature is heavily peppered with anecdotal case stories; anyone interested in reading some will easily be able to do so. The term 'real life examples' is misleading due to the controversial nature of psychogenic amnesia as a memory disorder; real life examples imply they are examples of true cases of psychogenic amnesia, which without proper corroboration they cannot be considered so. Johunter ( talk) 15.39, 09 June 2012 (UTC)
The term 'fictional' was added to avoid any mistakes of assuming these plots are evidence based. The Pliny the Elder reference was removed because it was a quote that somebody had said; therefore is not evidence that psychogenic amnesia has been recognised since the first century. The Jason Bourne example was also removed since he originally suffers severe head trauma in the story, so being it's a physical cause does not count as a fictional example of psychogenic amnesia. Johunter ( talk) 16.15, 09 June 2012 (UTC)
Risk factors have been removed; much was just repitition of what has been reworked into the introductory and 'about psychogenic amnesia' section such as that most case studies of those said to have psychogenic amnesia were exposed to trauma such as child sexual abuse or a war. Sentences within the paragraph were also quite contentious, such as 'patients exposed to physically or emotionally traumatic events are at a higher risk for developing psychogenic amnesia because they seem to have damaged the neurons in the brain'. This is quite odd, since neuronal damage would qualify the amnesia as organic and not psychogenic, and surley this is not meant to apply to every single person who has undergone emotional or physical trauma; such a sweeping statement is incredibly controversial. Also a sentence which begun with 'the study strongly suggests...' was removed because no study was previously mentioned. Johunter ( talk) 16.49, 09 June 2012 (UTC)
The treatment paragrpah has been edited and also merged with elements of the paragraph on theoretical explanations of psychogenic amnesia. The previous paragraph needed improvement as there were sentences such as 'with the help of psychotherapy and learning their autobiographies from family members, most patients recover their memories completley' that weren't even referenced and therefore were unubstantiated. Johunter ( talk) 11.51, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
I have edited the paragraph on imgaing and brain regions, and merged some previously cited information. It seems the case that since aetiology of psychogenic amnesia is vague, imaging such as EEG of brain regions involved in psychogenic amnesia are also vague. Johunter ( talk) 12.50, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
This page is now a well-balanced, thorough source of information on what is currently known about psychogenic amnesia, its classification, and importantly what has not yet been established, i.e. undetected underlying neurologial causes.
Suggestions: The popular culture section could be expanded by stressing that despite scientific disagreement about whether psychogenic amnesia is actually real, like repression it continues to endure in lay assumptions about memory and this shows up in art, literature, etc.
General: The article needs to be copyedited for a few typos (i.e. memory "decifits") and grammar issues. Lots of technical terms are clearly defined at first use but some are not (i.e. semantic/procedural memory), consider defining these for clarity. For ease of reading, consider breaking up large sections into smaller paragraphs.
Lead: this is a clear outline of what psychogenic amnesia is; consider making sure that every general point in the article is foreshadowed in teh lead (i.e. section about popular culture is not). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emountier ( talk • contribs) 02:49, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
Could an admin keep this page as psychological amnesia, and make a new blank for dissociative amnesia since the two disorders are wholly different both psychologically, neurologically different and one is innate while the other is environmentally caused, and the DSM-5 only attends to dissociative amnesia. Thank you in advance. Z ( talk) 19:08, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
it the article it is stated that "Dissociative amnesia was formally known as psychogenic amnesia", if it is no longer reffered to as psychogenic amnesia, atleast in a clinical setting, then shouldn't the article be updated to reffer to the correct term?
I dont want to make any changes just in case im incorrect though. ¿V0id? {have a great day!} ( talk) 15:55, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
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03:29, 26 August 2006 (UTC)03:29, 26 August 2006 (UTC)~~I believe its real however limited in its scope. Sort of like how the ripple effect disperses. I have had some profoud experiences where this description makes sense in the way which I can Identify. I would like to explore this more. whereas Not only have I been through what I once could only describe to myself as the threshold of a nervous breakdown ( in that I felt as though i could not absorb anymore input as in addition to process something out in some circumstances which was more profound at a point, peaked then gradually subsided. Greatly requiring proactive involvement like an athlete to overcome) associated with profound cas\tastrophical circumstances. I also observed this with many addicts and alcoholics and other traumaus as being something that I could observe but not b\put my finger on. This description very w/ emphasis makes some sense. I truly believe ther is something substai\]antial here and would like to come back to it.
the article reads that it is caused by psychological effects, but the examples of movies in which this occurs given in the article are about cases of physiological amnesia. one or the other should be changed· Lygophile has spoken 23:28, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
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I've moved the following section to the talk page for now at least - I don't see much merit in including case studies as they are single-incidents, making it difficult to draw any conclusions without being a synthesis. They've got a 'gee-whiz' factor, but nothing else, and I don't believe they're appropriate for the page as is. If anyone has any suggestions, feel free to make 'em. WLU ( talk) 17:19, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
References
I removed the following two references from the page - the first just seems like some guy's opinion (though referenced) and wasn't attached to any text. The second is a book, and also not attached to any section. If someone can replace the second as an in-line citation, that'd be great. I'd rather the first didn't go back at all, unless it justifies an unreferenced section and a pubmed article can't be found. WLU ( talk) 18:16, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Per our external links guidelines, I removed the following link, [1], it's a terrible choice for an EL, but a good source for the page itself. WLU ( talk) 17:30, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Some of this contains statements about abuse which propound theories of recovered memory syndrome, which is not accepted by some/most experts. Merkinsmum 22:18, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
http://server03.cpa-apc.org:8080/Publications/Archives/CJP/2005/november/cjp-nov-05-mcnally-IR-nov.pdf 81.101.251.160 ( talk) 14:41, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
The following sentence I strongly object to (and have commented out):
The study strongly suggested that "independent corroboration of recovered memories of abuse is often present" and that the recovery of the abuse memories generally is not associated with psychotherapy.
As I stated in my edit summary and my invisible comments, recovered memory is NOT the same thing as psychogenic amnesia - one is a diagnosed condition with extensive pubmed articles, discussion in very reliable source, a ICD number, section in the DSM and extensive medical research. Recovered memory is a suspect condition that is more political than medical, extremely suspect, and not comparable. If Chu discusses exclusively recovered memory, I don't think it's a good choice for the page.
I also dislike the statement about corroboration of recovered memories (which suggests there is reason to doubt) and the link with psychotherapy (psychogenic amnesia is treated with psychotherapy to retrieve and integrate memory; repressed and recovered memories are thought to be induced by suggestive, suspect and leading techniques used inappropriately by therapists). Psychogenic amnesia and repressed memory have different wikipedia pages, and I dislike the line between them being blurred. WLU ( talk) 00:50, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
I have added an EL on Dissociation and Trauma Archives, full text searchable articles and case studies published in the 1800s and early 1900s. ResearchEditor ( talk) 19:29, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
I'm just a kid who is doing a health project, but on the LSD page it says "There is also some indication that LSD may trigger a dissociative fugue state in individuals who are taking certain classes of antidepressants such as lithium salts and tricyclics."
Then on the Fugue State page it says that "Unlike retrograde amnesia, Dissociative Amnesia is not due to the direct physiological effects of a substance."
Now, that seems just a little bit wrong.
If I totally messed up the format, I'm sorry. Just wanted to let you people know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.161.91.108 ( talk) 23:01, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
I thought it might be worth thinking about... because child abuse, the case of the man who was abused in Japan with freeze drying experiments, etc point to this.-- Hitsuji Kinno ( talk) 02:05, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
As stated in DSM-IV and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissociative_disorder, Psychogenic amnesia is the former name for this syndrome, could someone please change this article's title to reflect this? Thanks Valethar ( talk) 14:05, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
Edit:Change it to Dissociative Amnesia, that is, as it is the current accepted name. Valethar ( talk) 14:07, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
I have made a large overhaul edit on the text introduction defining psychogenic amnesia, much has been edited out such as the term 'functional amnesia' stated as meaning the same as psychogenic amnesia (They are defined differently in the literature). I have edited out a few specific examples such as those 'found by Kopelman' that most cases of situation-specific psychogenic amnesia result from homocide..etc, one citation of such an example is not ample evidence that this is true. I have added in more definitions about fugue states, about the types of memory thought to be affected by psychogenic amnesia, and a little about its history in the literature. Most importantly I have added in information relating to the controversy surrounding the aetiology of psychogenic amnesia, it is a well hung-on-to notion in the literature but there is very little straightforward evidence of its true aetiology, especially since much of the 'evidence' are clinical anecdotes. It is important to present a critical view of the literature which I believe I have improved on in this entry, as it was previosuly defined as an open and shut case. Johunter ( talk) 11.56, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
I have removed the text which cited 'there are three types of memory; sensory, short-term, and long-term' as this is incorrect- there are more types of memory; for example working memory and procedural memory.
Another memory paragraph was removed; one that was referring to emotional memory. It says that 'emotional memory can be suppressed in non-mentally ill individuals in two stages' (Their reference= Depue BE, Curran T, Banich MT (2007). "Prefrontal regions orchestrate suppression of emotional memories via a two-phase process". Science 317 (5835): 215–9).First of all, the term non-mentally ill individuals is just bizzare, something like 'healthy' would be suffice. Secondly not only does the citation not make sense, it is irrelevant and unfounded. The article they cite (Depue et al.) uses a think/no think paradigm in which case not thinking about something is not the same as suppressing it (see Garry, M. & Loftus, E. F. (2004)I am freud's brain (Reserach Review), Skeptical Inquirer).
The paragrpah on traumatic memory has also been removed, as almost all sentences in the paragraph are unreferenced and seem more like opions; for example the sentence 'the younger the subject and the longer the trauma is, the greater the chance of significant amnesia' is not even referenced, and this is a big claim. There is no validation for such a claim. Also the sentence 'Not being able to integrate traumatic memories seems to be the main element which leads to PTSD' is not only irrelevant, it is also not referenced and is equallly a large unvalidated claim about the causation of PTSD (see McNally, R. J. (2003). Progress and controversy in the study of posttraumatic stress disorder. Annual Review of Psychology, 54, pg. 229). Information on the mechanisms of memory and on PTSD can be found on their own pages, this artcile should be kept relevant to its topic of psychogenic amnesia. Johunter ( talk) 10.01, 09 June 2012 (UTC)
This paragraph has been reworked and rephrased with more information added about how psychogenic amnesia is supposed to differ from organic amnesia, and also irrelevant information has been edited out. Although the main difference is supposed to be that psychogenic amnesia is of psychological rather than physical cause, there are other examples in the literature that distinuigh between them, and these are cited. It is mentioned that the differences remain controversial as, for example, psychological causes are often hard to find. Johunter ( talk) 13.24, 09 June 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.59.250.111 ( talk)
Information on the prevalence has been removed because it is unfounded and the examples given are not likely to be indicative of true prevalence rates. For example, one sentence read 'psychogenic amnesia was most strongly associated with severe and/or repeated traumas, and with traumas during childhood' but repeated traumas do not necessarily lead to more memory impairment than single traumas, nor does childhood trauma lead to memory impairment more than trauma during adulthood (see Williams, L. M. (1994). Recall of childhood trauma: A prospective study of women's memories of child sexual abuse. Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology, 62, 6, 1167-1176).
Johunter ( talk)15.28, 09 June 2012 (UTC)
The two 'real life' examples were removed; one was not referenced at all and the other was not corroborated, as is not much of the retrospective case studies in the literature which are cited as examples of psychogenic amnesia. The literature is heavily peppered with anecdotal case stories; anyone interested in reading some will easily be able to do so. The term 'real life examples' is misleading due to the controversial nature of psychogenic amnesia as a memory disorder; real life examples imply they are examples of true cases of psychogenic amnesia, which without proper corroboration they cannot be considered so. Johunter ( talk) 15.39, 09 June 2012 (UTC)
The term 'fictional' was added to avoid any mistakes of assuming these plots are evidence based. The Pliny the Elder reference was removed because it was a quote that somebody had said; therefore is not evidence that psychogenic amnesia has been recognised since the first century. The Jason Bourne example was also removed since he originally suffers severe head trauma in the story, so being it's a physical cause does not count as a fictional example of psychogenic amnesia. Johunter ( talk) 16.15, 09 June 2012 (UTC)
Risk factors have been removed; much was just repitition of what has been reworked into the introductory and 'about psychogenic amnesia' section such as that most case studies of those said to have psychogenic amnesia were exposed to trauma such as child sexual abuse or a war. Sentences within the paragraph were also quite contentious, such as 'patients exposed to physically or emotionally traumatic events are at a higher risk for developing psychogenic amnesia because they seem to have damaged the neurons in the brain'. This is quite odd, since neuronal damage would qualify the amnesia as organic and not psychogenic, and surley this is not meant to apply to every single person who has undergone emotional or physical trauma; such a sweeping statement is incredibly controversial. Also a sentence which begun with 'the study strongly suggests...' was removed because no study was previously mentioned. Johunter ( talk) 16.49, 09 June 2012 (UTC)
The treatment paragrpah has been edited and also merged with elements of the paragraph on theoretical explanations of psychogenic amnesia. The previous paragraph needed improvement as there were sentences such as 'with the help of psychotherapy and learning their autobiographies from family members, most patients recover their memories completley' that weren't even referenced and therefore were unubstantiated. Johunter ( talk) 11.51, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
I have edited the paragraph on imgaing and brain regions, and merged some previously cited information. It seems the case that since aetiology of psychogenic amnesia is vague, imaging such as EEG of brain regions involved in psychogenic amnesia are also vague. Johunter ( talk) 12.50, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
This page is now a well-balanced, thorough source of information on what is currently known about psychogenic amnesia, its classification, and importantly what has not yet been established, i.e. undetected underlying neurologial causes.
Suggestions: The popular culture section could be expanded by stressing that despite scientific disagreement about whether psychogenic amnesia is actually real, like repression it continues to endure in lay assumptions about memory and this shows up in art, literature, etc.
General: The article needs to be copyedited for a few typos (i.e. memory "decifits") and grammar issues. Lots of technical terms are clearly defined at first use but some are not (i.e. semantic/procedural memory), consider defining these for clarity. For ease of reading, consider breaking up large sections into smaller paragraphs.
Lead: this is a clear outline of what psychogenic amnesia is; consider making sure that every general point in the article is foreshadowed in teh lead (i.e. section about popular culture is not). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emountier ( talk • contribs) 02:49, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
Could an admin keep this page as psychological amnesia, and make a new blank for dissociative amnesia since the two disorders are wholly different both psychologically, neurologically different and one is innate while the other is environmentally caused, and the DSM-5 only attends to dissociative amnesia. Thank you in advance. Z ( talk) 19:08, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
it the article it is stated that "Dissociative amnesia was formally known as psychogenic amnesia", if it is no longer reffered to as psychogenic amnesia, atleast in a clinical setting, then shouldn't the article be updated to reffer to the correct term?
I dont want to make any changes just in case im incorrect though. ¿V0id? {have a great day!} ( talk) 15:55, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
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this page explains how repressed memory and dissociative amnesia are the same thing, and how previous cases that have been diagnosed have failed to rule out other possible causes like head trauma. Dissociative amnesia goes against what we know about memory and how trauma affects it. Futhermore, it enables healthcare practitioners to try and recover lost memories in patients minds. Memory is extremely malleable and prone to being wrong. Einthevoid ( talk) 01:12, 3 August 2023 (UTC)