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What were the ancient medical uses? Has the effectiveness for those uses been scientifically investigated? -- Beland 22:47, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
I edited the passage on freeze-drying a bit, as the following statement in the previous version appeared a bit strange:
While dried dill indeed tends to lose most of its flavor, freeze-drying is obviously superior to regular drying. While it can’t beat fresh sill of course, freeze-dried dill preserves the flavour much better for at least some 2 months. -- AAikio 18:17, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
I've found information about the seeds used for a specific drug. Can some verify this?
Here is *unverified* information I've found:
DILL -- _Amethum graveolens._ Family Ubelliferae (Carrot family).
Material: Oil from seeds.
Usage: Oil is ingested.
Active Constituents: Dillapiole (non-amine precursor of 2,3-
dimethoxy-4,5-methylenedioxyamphetamine [DMMDA-2]).
Effects and contraindications: See PARSLEY.
Supplier: Spice section of grocery stores; herb dealers, MGH.
Viable seeds; B, FM, G, NK, RCS.
==Alternative Cultural Use== Oil from the seeds can be ingested as a psychoactive substance. It contains Dillapiole a non amine precursor of 2,3-dimethoxy-4,5-methylenedioxyamphetamine [DMMDA-2. The effect is uncertain but it is told to be good against stomachach in smaller amounts
I've taken this out as it is not a genus name. Peucedanum graveolens (L.) C.B.Clarke is a genuine alternative to Anethum graveolens, but the only references I can find to Antidismatrabateon Estrelles Magnus are one to here, and one to a copy of here. Peridon ( talk) 22:01, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Another related compound of Dillapiole can be easily confused with-- 222.64.19.192 ( talk) 10:39, 28 July 2009 (UTC) For sure, the cited articles need to be fully accessed to clearify the confusion, if one can-- 222.64.19.192 ( talk) 10:39, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Using trival names in academic journal abstracts, with the absence of an approved naming system or identifiers, is not a professional conduct anyway-- 222.64.19.192 ( talk) 10:48, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
more examples of unprofessional abstracts http://www.jbc.org/cgi/content/abstract/284/8/5352 -- 222.64.209.30 ( talk) 03:31, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
http://www.jbc.org/cgi/content/abstract/284/8/4806 -- 222.64.209.30 ( talk) 03:32, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
maybe this should be added to the article? http://www.iherb.org/hoy.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.8.251.46 ( talk) 14:36, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
I think flower description in section "Growth" may be improved by replacing "small umbels" with "compound umbels", which better describes inflorescence of Apiaceae in general. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.45.12.68 ( talk) 14:22, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
The paragraph "In Poland, where dill is called 'koper'," needs to be broken up into 2 or 3 paragraphs, it is enormous, and hard on the eyes to read. Stopde ( talk) 12:28, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
According to the article dill is used for 'Borsht' in Poland. Well, i'm from Poland and i have never seen dill being used in any of the two common borsht varieties (in poland we have white and red barszcz (borsht) ). What we do have is "Zupa koperkowa", which is simply 'Dill soup'. It is a soup based on stock, dill and milk/cream. Often a cubed potato is added. The soup is usually not acidic (regular milk/cream is used and not sour cream) which, in my opinion, makes is explicitly not a 'borsht'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.87.238.229 ( talk) 12:10, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
I've been editing the whole article on dill to improve the style of the writing, sentence structure, word usage and punctuation. In the section headed "Culinary use" I wonder whether the fifth paragraph is really necessary. It mentions that dill is used in pickles and even provides a definition of pickles, which I don't think is necessary here. The use of dill to flavor pickles is mentioned above, I believe in the 3rd of those short paragraphs. Is the word "eponymous," which contains a link, so important that this sentence (which seems redundant) deserves its own paragraph? Would anyone object to deleting this one-sentence paragraph? (If "eponymous" is important, it can be inserted into the sentence mentioning pickles in the 3rd paragraph.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by CorinneSD ( talk • contribs) 23:11, 19 July 2013 (UTC) CorinneSD ( talk) 23:25, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
The note for the reference for companion planting (note 8) is a dead link. GeorgeIIIFan ( talk) 10:58, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
It would be helpful if somebody could add a paragraph about the history of dill cultivation. How early do we think it was cultivated? Where?
Dill or Dilli or Dillia spelling among others is used throughout many parts of the earth, Africa the Far east middle east, the South Pacific, the Baltic region (Latvia, Sweden etc.) W. Europe (Scotland) It didn't cover all aspects like its supposed to. Just a biased lens. Otherwise why even bother posting such a section? 76.167.193.57 ( talk) 07:06, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
It looks like World Flora Online and Plants of the World Online have listed several other species under the Anethum genus:
Are there any outside sources that can verify these species' existence & listing? -- Mat Kiyan ( talk) 03:38, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
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What were the ancient medical uses? Has the effectiveness for those uses been scientifically investigated? -- Beland 22:47, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
I edited the passage on freeze-drying a bit, as the following statement in the previous version appeared a bit strange:
While dried dill indeed tends to lose most of its flavor, freeze-drying is obviously superior to regular drying. While it can’t beat fresh sill of course, freeze-dried dill preserves the flavour much better for at least some 2 months. -- AAikio 18:17, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
I've found information about the seeds used for a specific drug. Can some verify this?
Here is *unverified* information I've found:
DILL -- _Amethum graveolens._ Family Ubelliferae (Carrot family).
Material: Oil from seeds.
Usage: Oil is ingested.
Active Constituents: Dillapiole (non-amine precursor of 2,3-
dimethoxy-4,5-methylenedioxyamphetamine [DMMDA-2]).
Effects and contraindications: See PARSLEY.
Supplier: Spice section of grocery stores; herb dealers, MGH.
Viable seeds; B, FM, G, NK, RCS.
==Alternative Cultural Use== Oil from the seeds can be ingested as a psychoactive substance. It contains Dillapiole a non amine precursor of 2,3-dimethoxy-4,5-methylenedioxyamphetamine [DMMDA-2. The effect is uncertain but it is told to be good against stomachach in smaller amounts
I've taken this out as it is not a genus name. Peucedanum graveolens (L.) C.B.Clarke is a genuine alternative to Anethum graveolens, but the only references I can find to Antidismatrabateon Estrelles Magnus are one to here, and one to a copy of here. Peridon ( talk) 22:01, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Another related compound of Dillapiole can be easily confused with-- 222.64.19.192 ( talk) 10:39, 28 July 2009 (UTC) For sure, the cited articles need to be fully accessed to clearify the confusion, if one can-- 222.64.19.192 ( talk) 10:39, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Using trival names in academic journal abstracts, with the absence of an approved naming system or identifiers, is not a professional conduct anyway-- 222.64.19.192 ( talk) 10:48, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
more examples of unprofessional abstracts http://www.jbc.org/cgi/content/abstract/284/8/5352 -- 222.64.209.30 ( talk) 03:31, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
http://www.jbc.org/cgi/content/abstract/284/8/4806 -- 222.64.209.30 ( talk) 03:32, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
maybe this should be added to the article? http://www.iherb.org/hoy.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.8.251.46 ( talk) 14:36, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
I think flower description in section "Growth" may be improved by replacing "small umbels" with "compound umbels", which better describes inflorescence of Apiaceae in general. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.45.12.68 ( talk) 14:22, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
The paragraph "In Poland, where dill is called 'koper'," needs to be broken up into 2 or 3 paragraphs, it is enormous, and hard on the eyes to read. Stopde ( talk) 12:28, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
According to the article dill is used for 'Borsht' in Poland. Well, i'm from Poland and i have never seen dill being used in any of the two common borsht varieties (in poland we have white and red barszcz (borsht) ). What we do have is "Zupa koperkowa", which is simply 'Dill soup'. It is a soup based on stock, dill and milk/cream. Often a cubed potato is added. The soup is usually not acidic (regular milk/cream is used and not sour cream) which, in my opinion, makes is explicitly not a 'borsht'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.87.238.229 ( talk) 12:10, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
I've been editing the whole article on dill to improve the style of the writing, sentence structure, word usage and punctuation. In the section headed "Culinary use" I wonder whether the fifth paragraph is really necessary. It mentions that dill is used in pickles and even provides a definition of pickles, which I don't think is necessary here. The use of dill to flavor pickles is mentioned above, I believe in the 3rd of those short paragraphs. Is the word "eponymous," which contains a link, so important that this sentence (which seems redundant) deserves its own paragraph? Would anyone object to deleting this one-sentence paragraph? (If "eponymous" is important, it can be inserted into the sentence mentioning pickles in the 3rd paragraph.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by CorinneSD ( talk • contribs) 23:11, 19 July 2013 (UTC) CorinneSD ( talk) 23:25, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
The note for the reference for companion planting (note 8) is a dead link. GeorgeIIIFan ( talk) 10:58, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
It would be helpful if somebody could add a paragraph about the history of dill cultivation. How early do we think it was cultivated? Where?
Dill or Dilli or Dillia spelling among others is used throughout many parts of the earth, Africa the Far east middle east, the South Pacific, the Baltic region (Latvia, Sweden etc.) W. Europe (Scotland) It didn't cover all aspects like its supposed to. Just a biased lens. Otherwise why even bother posting such a section? 76.167.193.57 ( talk) 07:06, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
It looks like World Flora Online and Plants of the World Online have listed several other species under the Anethum genus:
Are there any outside sources that can verify these species' existence & listing? -- Mat Kiyan ( talk) 03:38, 22 January 2023 (UTC)