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The result of the move request was: moved. Although there was some talk about moving to a specific title about disagnosis in children, it sounds like more information will be added to cover more age groups soon. If not, another move discussion can be opened. (
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𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆(𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 11:34, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Autism diagnostic process →
Diagnosis of autism – I believe it makes sense to have a general article on diagnosing autism (and closely related conditions, e.g., PDD-NOS), rather than having an article specific to one or some (presumably modern) diagnostic processes. This new, broader article could also be a place where various screening and assessment tools are summarized. Most books on autism conditions written for psychiatrists and psychologists contain such a part/chapter.
TempusTacet (
talk) 10:35, 14 June 2023 (UTC)reply
I agree but I'd rather we add some information on diagnosis in other age groups (possible sources for diagnosis in adults include
doi:10.1007/978-3-030-28833-4_3 and
doi:10.1177/1362361320903128) than immediately start with a separate article on diagnosis in children.--
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Diagnosis of Asperger syndrome covers much of the same content, in addition to re-telling the changes brought about by the DSM-5 and the discussion whether AS can meaningfully be separated from autistic disorder/childhood autism, which is/should be covered in
Asperger syndrome. The diagnostic process is for the most part identical, many instruments developed for diagnosing AS such as the
Adult Asperger Assessment (AAA) or the
Ritvo Autism and Asperger Diagnostic Scale are used for diagnosing DSM-5 ASD and instruments like the
ADI-R are/were also used for diagnosing AS.--
TempusTacet (
talk) 07:50, 29 July 2023 (UTC)reply
Oppose, as there are meaningful historical/historiographic differences here. While the AD/AS distinction didn't work out in the long run, there was definitely a lot of effort put into distinguishing them from a diagnostic perspective, including particular supposed cognitive patterns (e.g. the VIQ > PIQ vs PIQ > VIQ 'distinction', which is particularly notable because it was retroactively invented by its influence on diagnostic patterns), the perspectives of people like Gillberg that differed from DSM language, and the dispute over the relationship between Asperger's and other ASDs (it's striking to read 1980s papers on "childhood schizotypal personality disorder" and see the very consistent agreement that "the first description of childhood STPD was by Asperger"). That's not necessarily to say the article does the best job of clarifying how Asperger's diagnosis differed from autism diagnosis, particularly the variant criteria, but it doesn't do too bad a job either.
Vaticidalprophet 00:26, 12 December 2023 (UTC)reply
Oppose. The political motivations which pressured the medical community into conflating Aspergers Syndrome with autism are highly controversial within the Aspergers community. As brain scans demonstrate that they have opposite causes, from a scientific perspective it is absurd to consider them anything but distinct conditions.
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Hi, Im student from Uskudar University. I edit this article (Diagnosis of autism) as an assignment for my course (Recent Developments in Biotechnology). I already completed Wikipedia training modules to be proficient in Wikipedia editing. I would appreciate any support. Best wishes, ASMA HADAD
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The result of the move request was: moved. Although there was some talk about moving to a specific title about disagnosis in children, it sounds like more information will be added to cover more age groups soon. If not, another move discussion can be opened. (
non-admin closure) - 🔥
𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆(𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 11:34, 21 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Autism diagnostic process →
Diagnosis of autism – I believe it makes sense to have a general article on diagnosing autism (and closely related conditions, e.g., PDD-NOS), rather than having an article specific to one or some (presumably modern) diagnostic processes. This new, broader article could also be a place where various screening and assessment tools are summarized. Most books on autism conditions written for psychiatrists and psychologists contain such a part/chapter.
TempusTacet (
talk) 10:35, 14 June 2023 (UTC)reply
I agree but I'd rather we add some information on diagnosis in other age groups (possible sources for diagnosis in adults include
doi:10.1007/978-3-030-28833-4_3 and
doi:10.1177/1362361320903128) than immediately start with a separate article on diagnosis in children.--
TempusTacet (
talk) 15:14, 19 June 2023 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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The article
Diagnosis of Asperger syndrome covers much of the same content, in addition to re-telling the changes brought about by the DSM-5 and the discussion whether AS can meaningfully be separated from autistic disorder/childhood autism, which is/should be covered in
Asperger syndrome. The diagnostic process is for the most part identical, many instruments developed for diagnosing AS such as the
Adult Asperger Assessment (AAA) or the
Ritvo Autism and Asperger Diagnostic Scale are used for diagnosing DSM-5 ASD and instruments like the
ADI-R are/were also used for diagnosing AS.--
TempusTacet (
talk) 07:50, 29 July 2023 (UTC)reply
Oppose, as there are meaningful historical/historiographic differences here. While the AD/AS distinction didn't work out in the long run, there was definitely a lot of effort put into distinguishing them from a diagnostic perspective, including particular supposed cognitive patterns (e.g. the VIQ > PIQ vs PIQ > VIQ 'distinction', which is particularly notable because it was retroactively invented by its influence on diagnostic patterns), the perspectives of people like Gillberg that differed from DSM language, and the dispute over the relationship between Asperger's and other ASDs (it's striking to read 1980s papers on "childhood schizotypal personality disorder" and see the very consistent agreement that "the first description of childhood STPD was by Asperger"). That's not necessarily to say the article does the best job of clarifying how Asperger's diagnosis differed from autism diagnosis, particularly the variant criteria, but it doesn't do too bad a job either.
Vaticidalprophet 00:26, 12 December 2023 (UTC)reply
Oppose. The political motivations which pressured the medical community into conflating Aspergers Syndrome with autism are highly controversial within the Aspergers community. As brain scans demonstrate that they have opposite causes, from a scientific perspective it is absurd to consider them anything but distinct conditions.
1.127.107.51 (
talk) 11:26, 19 January 2024 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
university assignment
Hi, Im student from Uskudar University. I edit this article (Diagnosis of autism) as an assignment for my course (Recent Developments in Biotechnology). I already completed Wikipedia training modules to be proficient in Wikipedia editing. I would appreciate any support. Best wishes, ASMA HADAD
Asmahadad23 (
talk) 18:11, 25 January 2024 (UTC)reply
