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"On 17 May 1987, an Iraqi Mirage F1 fired a pair of Exocet missiles at the United States Navy (USN) warship USS Stark as it patrolled the Persian Gulf,"
It was not done by an F1 according to Stark's wiki /info/en/?search=USS_Stark_(FFG-31)
Also, the F1 version the IRAQis operated would not be able to do that kind of flight with two exocets.
Remove? Sijambo ( talk) 19:58, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
Regarding the USS Stark attack, I think that I do have some reliable material shedding light on which aircraft was actually involved. First of all, as it has already been said, it couldn't have been a lone Mirage F1, because two Exocets were fired by the attacker. Indeed, according to the book "Iraqi Mirages", by Tom Cooper and Milos Sipos (published in 2019 by Helion & Company), the first Exocet-capable F1s, delivered to Iraq starting in 1984, were of the EQ-5 variant, which could only carry a single Exocet "due to the limitations imposed by its internal power supply". Only the F1EQ-6 could carry two Exocets at once, but it entered service only in 1988. So the hypothesis of a single Mirage F1 carrying out the attack can be ruled out.
Instead, their thesis is that a single modified Falcon 50 was involved in the attack on USS Stark. It could use the Exocet because it had been modified in France with a complete F1EQ-5 cockpit on the right side of its own cockpit, as well as "the typical pointed nose of the Mirage F1 containing the Cyrano radar - and one launcher for AM39 Exocet missiles under each wing". On the 17th of October 1987, the Falcon took off from Wahda AB (near Basra), armed with two Exocets, and flew down the Persian Gulf until reaching a position north of Bahrain. It then launched its two missiles, from 35 and 24 kilometers away respectively. Both of them hit the USS Stark. BilletsMauves ( talk) 19:26, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
Understood, I reverted the edit and put back what was there beforehand. Although to be fair, the "complete Mirage F1 cockpit" story is actually plausible, since a similar modification of a Falcon 20 was done with a Mirage IIIE cockpit in France. Cheers BilletsMauves ( talk) 15:22, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
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"On 17 May 1987, an Iraqi Mirage F1 fired a pair of Exocet missiles at the United States Navy (USN) warship USS Stark as it patrolled the Persian Gulf,"
It was not done by an F1 according to Stark's wiki /info/en/?search=USS_Stark_(FFG-31)
Also, the F1 version the IRAQis operated would not be able to do that kind of flight with two exocets.
Remove? Sijambo ( talk) 19:58, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
Regarding the USS Stark attack, I think that I do have some reliable material shedding light on which aircraft was actually involved. First of all, as it has already been said, it couldn't have been a lone Mirage F1, because two Exocets were fired by the attacker. Indeed, according to the book "Iraqi Mirages", by Tom Cooper and Milos Sipos (published in 2019 by Helion & Company), the first Exocet-capable F1s, delivered to Iraq starting in 1984, were of the EQ-5 variant, which could only carry a single Exocet "due to the limitations imposed by its internal power supply". Only the F1EQ-6 could carry two Exocets at once, but it entered service only in 1988. So the hypothesis of a single Mirage F1 carrying out the attack can be ruled out.
Instead, their thesis is that a single modified Falcon 50 was involved in the attack on USS Stark. It could use the Exocet because it had been modified in France with a complete F1EQ-5 cockpit on the right side of its own cockpit, as well as "the typical pointed nose of the Mirage F1 containing the Cyrano radar - and one launcher for AM39 Exocet missiles under each wing". On the 17th of October 1987, the Falcon took off from Wahda AB (near Basra), armed with two Exocets, and flew down the Persian Gulf until reaching a position north of Bahrain. It then launched its two missiles, from 35 and 24 kilometers away respectively. Both of them hit the USS Stark. BilletsMauves ( talk) 19:26, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
Understood, I reverted the edit and put back what was there beforehand. Although to be fair, the "complete Mirage F1 cockpit" story is actually plausible, since a similar modification of a Falcon 20 was done with a Mirage IIIE cockpit in France. Cheers BilletsMauves ( talk) 15:22, 26 December 2021 (UTC)