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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
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... that the
Colonial Office refused to appoint Cyrus Prudhomme David to the magistracy, considering it wrong "as a matter of policy" to appoint a second Black man to a legal post in
Trinidad and Tobago? Source: "A. C. Harris, a principal clerk in the Colonial Office argued that it would wrong 'as a matter of principle' to give another legal appoint to a 'black man'" - Samaroo, Brinsely (1971). "Cyrus Prudhomme David - a case study in the emergence of the black man in Trinidad politics". Journal of Caribbean History. 3: 73–89
ALT1: ... that in 1902 Cyrus Prudhomme David argued that Britain's use of the colonies to produce "tropical produce and taxpayers" meant that "demonstrations of loyalty on our part remain a hollow mockery"? Source: "So long as the stewards of the Crown persist in regarding these undeveloped estates of the Crown as so many fields for the raising of tropical produce and taxpayers, thus long will all demonstrations of loyalty on our part remain a hollow mockery" - C.P. David quoted in Samaroo, Brinsely (1971). "Cyrus Prudhomme David - a case study in the emergence of the black man in Trinidad politics". Journal of Caribbean History. 3: 73–89
Created by
Guettarda (
talk). Self-nominated at 03:27, 28 March 2022 (UTC).reply
Eligible for DYK, suitable length and referencing, no copyvio, no problem with spotchecked inline citations. Hook is interesting, well-sourced and appropriate. QPQ done. This is good to go. Thanks for your hard work! —
Bilorv (talk) 13:44, 10 April 2022 (UTC)reply
I randomly googled three phrases and only turned up Wikipedia mirrors.
Earwig's tool shows no sign of copyright violation.
Lead:
"read law" this isn't going to mean much to many Americans - could we link or explicate?YLinked
reading law
Link for "Colonial Office"? Done
Early life:
"on November 1867" .. shouldn't this be "in November"?YYes, fixed.
Links for "Queen's Royal College" and "Port of Spain"? Done
Political career:
"creating an official majority on the council" an majority of what/who?
"Prior to this, the unofficial members had constituted a majority on the council, and Chamberlain's actions weakened the already limited power of local residents." I think we need an explanation of what official and unofficial members are and how unofficial members could actually do anything useful? Ah, i see there's an explanation further on - suggest moving this explanation up to the first mention of the Legislative CouncilYI moved the
details about the council's composition up from late in the article. I think that satisfies the prior issue as well.
"David argued that as long as Britain persists in treating the colonies as merely" pretty sure we want "David argued that as long as Britain persisted in treating the colonies as merely" here, to keep the verbs in the same tense. Done
Appointment:
THe last sentence of this section is repeated in the next section - it's unneeded in one of these places. I cut out most of the repeat information, but I left the sentence because it's the only way I can think to mention his campaigning for local government reform (short of writing the whole article on the topic, which I hope to do one of these days.
Indian indentureship:
"and in 1902 David suggested that this cost, which primarily benefited a relatively small number of large sugar planters." what did David suggest? I see the next sentence says it, but the structure of the two sentences is very awkward and needs rephrasing.YRewritten and (hopefully) clarified a bit.
that's it, nice little article!
I've put the article on hold for seven days to allow folks to address the issues I've brought up. Feel free to contact me on my talk page, or here with any concerns, and let me know one of those places when the issues have been addressed. If I may suggest that you strike out, check mark, or otherwise mark the items I've detailed, that will make it possible for me to see what's been addressed, and you can keep track of what's been done and what still needs to be worked on.
Ealdgyth (
talk) 14:59, 3 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Thanks so much for the review
Ealdgyth. I think I've addressed everything you raised (hopefully without creating a whole new set of issues).
Guettarda (
talk) 02:43, 4 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Those all look good, passing this now.
Ealdgyth (
talk) 13:19, 5 May 2022 (UTC)reply
A fact from Cyrus Prudhomme David appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 16 April 2022 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Trinidad and Tobago, an attempt to build a comprehensive guide to the country of the
Republic of Trinidad and Tobago on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can edit this article, or visit the
project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the
discussion. If you are new to editing Wikipedia visit the
welcome page to become familiar with the guidelines.Trinidad and TobagoWikipedia:WikiProject Trinidad and TobagoTemplate:WikiProject Trinidad and TobagoTrinidad and Tobago articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to
join the project and
contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the
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Did you know nomination
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
... that the
Colonial Office refused to appoint Cyrus Prudhomme David to the magistracy, considering it wrong "as a matter of policy" to appoint a second Black man to a legal post in
Trinidad and Tobago? Source: "A. C. Harris, a principal clerk in the Colonial Office argued that it would wrong 'as a matter of principle' to give another legal appoint to a 'black man'" - Samaroo, Brinsely (1971). "Cyrus Prudhomme David - a case study in the emergence of the black man in Trinidad politics". Journal of Caribbean History. 3: 73–89
ALT1: ... that in 1902 Cyrus Prudhomme David argued that Britain's use of the colonies to produce "tropical produce and taxpayers" meant that "demonstrations of loyalty on our part remain a hollow mockery"? Source: "So long as the stewards of the Crown persist in regarding these undeveloped estates of the Crown as so many fields for the raising of tropical produce and taxpayers, thus long will all demonstrations of loyalty on our part remain a hollow mockery" - C.P. David quoted in Samaroo, Brinsely (1971). "Cyrus Prudhomme David - a case study in the emergence of the black man in Trinidad politics". Journal of Caribbean History. 3: 73–89
Created by
Guettarda (
talk). Self-nominated at 03:27, 28 March 2022 (UTC).reply
Eligible for DYK, suitable length and referencing, no copyvio, no problem with spotchecked inline citations. Hook is interesting, well-sourced and appropriate. QPQ done. This is good to go. Thanks for your hard work! —
Bilorv (talk) 13:44, 10 April 2022 (UTC)reply
I randomly googled three phrases and only turned up Wikipedia mirrors.
Earwig's tool shows no sign of copyright violation.
Lead:
"read law" this isn't going to mean much to many Americans - could we link or explicate?YLinked
reading law
Link for "Colonial Office"? Done
Early life:
"on November 1867" .. shouldn't this be "in November"?YYes, fixed.
Links for "Queen's Royal College" and "Port of Spain"? Done
Political career:
"creating an official majority on the council" an majority of what/who?
"Prior to this, the unofficial members had constituted a majority on the council, and Chamberlain's actions weakened the already limited power of local residents." I think we need an explanation of what official and unofficial members are and how unofficial members could actually do anything useful? Ah, i see there's an explanation further on - suggest moving this explanation up to the first mention of the Legislative CouncilYI moved the
details about the council's composition up from late in the article. I think that satisfies the prior issue as well.
"David argued that as long as Britain persists in treating the colonies as merely" pretty sure we want "David argued that as long as Britain persisted in treating the colonies as merely" here, to keep the verbs in the same tense. Done
Appointment:
THe last sentence of this section is repeated in the next section - it's unneeded in one of these places. I cut out most of the repeat information, but I left the sentence because it's the only way I can think to mention his campaigning for local government reform (short of writing the whole article on the topic, which I hope to do one of these days.
Indian indentureship:
"and in 1902 David suggested that this cost, which primarily benefited a relatively small number of large sugar planters." what did David suggest? I see the next sentence says it, but the structure of the two sentences is very awkward and needs rephrasing.YRewritten and (hopefully) clarified a bit.
that's it, nice little article!
I've put the article on hold for seven days to allow folks to address the issues I've brought up. Feel free to contact me on my talk page, or here with any concerns, and let me know one of those places when the issues have been addressed. If I may suggest that you strike out, check mark, or otherwise mark the items I've detailed, that will make it possible for me to see what's been addressed, and you can keep track of what's been done and what still needs to be worked on.
Ealdgyth (
talk) 14:59, 3 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Thanks so much for the review
Ealdgyth. I think I've addressed everything you raised (hopefully without creating a whole new set of issues).
Guettarda (
talk) 02:43, 4 May 2022 (UTC)reply
Those all look good, passing this now.
Ealdgyth (
talk) 13:19, 5 May 2022 (UTC)reply