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I took this commentary from the main page -- it is opinion that fits more properly on the Discussion page (particularly since someone titled it "Discussion"):
Nowadays we already understand, this story only symbolized in the era of around 1800 years ago, women's freedom is only to be packed as a product and only could be chosen by men.
Now most people had already known that this story belongs to a kind of fantasy, not in reality. Because they 2 people actually had no mature minds to experience what is life, and their love were only similar to those teenagers.
I will bite my tongue about the bad grammar, and only hope the original Wikipedians who pos kbkbibgiigbiygiygigted these comments will expand their discussion further. -- Procrastinatrix 18:26, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
The novel is a very late literary form (hence the name novel, which means new) and should be used sparingly to describe any work of literature written before the eighteenth century;it should never be used to describe a work that pre-dates Cervantes' Don Quixote, which is considered the first novel. 70.24.91.8 ( talk) 14:22, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
Pick one name and stick to it. I would suggest Eros, as all the other names seem to be Greek rather than Roman. --
71.223.178.110 02:08, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
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I deleted all the parenthetical references to Eros except for the first reference, identifying Eros as the Greek counterpart of Cupid. France3470 is right; the article is about the tale as told by Apuleius, who writes in Latin and calls the character Cupid. It's useful to note that Cupid = Eros (cautiously), but the article offers no scholarship on the question of Greek sources, and the boneheadedness of continually placing Eros in brackets resulted -- if the person doing this had bothered to notice -- in a major error: the parenthetical Eros was inserted into the Image tag for one of the Waterhouse paintings, and therefore the image wasn't showing up. It was also inserted into the title of the painting, which implied that the title was something other than it is.
This is far from the only shortcoming of the article, which consists largely of breathless summary (though clearly the author(s) love the story, which I don't mean to minimize) and lists. I corrected only the Eros business in a cursory manner, because of the two major errors it generated. The solution to naming is to call the characters what Apuleius called them, if the article is about the tale from the Metamorphoses (or the popular title as used here, "The Golden Ass"), and to call them the names used by the poets and artists who produce works drawing on the original tale. But the article as it stands is an undisciplined mess. Cynwolfe ( talk) 13:09, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
Psyche was an architect and interior designer for her father, her father liked her work so that let him to be his daughter. So Psyche is talent in art this field and other beautiful things. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Powercode2008 ( talk • contribs) 13:18, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
I have no clue what happened to this page, but sometime in the past few months, what was originally a fairly comprehensive and well written article has been replaced by something else entirely. I'm reverting back to the Revision as of 20:53, 6 October 2007 by Gawaxay, because after that the article has been replaced by someone's own unreferenced version of the story. I doubt there will be any objections to this but if there please just leave a note here. -- France3470 14:49, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
why is the word "sex" in boldface? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.30.218.110 ( talk) 23:20, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Once upon a time I learned that Psyche did not receive her name before she was deified, taken up into the heaven of the Olympus; and that her name as earthly princess of Sicily was Pernanaia (personified selling or marketing) or Phorne (prostitute). Perhaps this is merely a modern attribution to the story, but I find it interesting. If there are someone who are able to help me find where I've got this from I'd be pleased.-- Xact ( talk) 18:55, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
Neither "Pernanaia" nor "Phorne" is Greek. "pernemi" was a word used by epic poets for "piprasko" meaning to sell. "Porne" was the Greek for prostitute. There is some muddle here, but I can't reconstruct it. Diomedea Exulans ( talk) 17:10, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
The extensive section about a (roughly) similar Vedic myth is interesting, but what is it doing here? //roger.duprat.copenhagen
Cupid once scratched himself with one of his own arrows by mistake. He was looking at a woman called Psyche, and fell in love with her. He knew that his mother Venus would be angry, so he hid Psyche away and told her that she must never try to look at him. Psyche thought that she had been captured by a hideous monster, and, of course, couldn't resist taking a peep. She was enchanted by the first sight of her handsome husband, and while playing with his arrows, scratched herself as well. So now they were both desperately in love with each other, see right. Venus drove Psyche away, and she had many adventures before she was allowed to stay with Cupid, and Venus became reconciled to being a mother-in-law! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.27.164.135 ( talk) 18:49, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
I posted this for further reference to incorporate into this article. It will have to be re-written because I didn't write it. Thought I'd "talk" about it before writing my own summary.
The logo of the BPS depicts Psyche and her lamp, as homage to the origin of the word Psych and Psychology. Seems worth a mention. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.23.57.181 ( talk) 07:49, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
The legend as told in this article is completely different to what is told in Apuleius's The Golden Ass, and no citations are given for the new elements of the story. I'm accordingly rewriting it completely! Wwallacee ( talk) 03:04, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
I feel like this article needs a link to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cupid but I'm not sure what the rules are for how to best introduce a link, I'm guessing it should be in a sentence about Cupid himself, but there's no such sentence in the top part of the article. 46.252.130.50 ( talk) 12:12, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
Hi Cynwolfe, I've had this page watchlisted for years and delighted to see the expansion and clean up. Suggesting that the Bouguereau painting is replaced as lead image. Frankly he makes my skin crawl! Otherwise this is just great work here. Ceoil ( talk) 10:27, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
Section Psyche and the underworld, in the quotation is the below text.
The airway of Dis is there
Should probably by stairway - but I don't have any reference around to check. Could someone knowledgeable edit?
It reads like the Metamorphoses is the same as the Golden Ass, and in the rest of the sentence, if you don't know already, it is hard to tell which work is being referred to. I don't know for sure, but it is possible that this is what is meant: "Cupid and Psyche is a story from Ovid's Metamorphoses, that is retold (at greater length?) in The Golden Ass, which was written in the 2nd century AD by Apuleius. The story concerns..." Also I don't see a reason why "Metamorphoses" is not linked to /info/en/?search=Metamorphoses. I'm not sure of the relationship between the two works, because I've only read the Metamorphoses, but there is detail of the story that I don't remember from Ovid, so that is why I suggested that the tale was retold "at greater length" in Apuleius. But if someone who knows could just reword the beginning of the article so that it is clear when it is talking about Ovid, when Apuleius, and when the generic story itself, that would be helpful. FideliaE ( talk) 18:42, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
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I took this commentary from the main page -- it is opinion that fits more properly on the Discussion page (particularly since someone titled it "Discussion"):
Nowadays we already understand, this story only symbolized in the era of around 1800 years ago, women's freedom is only to be packed as a product and only could be chosen by men.
Now most people had already known that this story belongs to a kind of fantasy, not in reality. Because they 2 people actually had no mature minds to experience what is life, and their love were only similar to those teenagers.
I will bite my tongue about the bad grammar, and only hope the original Wikipedians who pos kbkbibgiigbiygiygigted these comments will expand their discussion further. -- Procrastinatrix 18:26, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
The novel is a very late literary form (hence the name novel, which means new) and should be used sparingly to describe any work of literature written before the eighteenth century;it should never be used to describe a work that pre-dates Cervantes' Don Quixote, which is considered the first novel. 70.24.91.8 ( talk) 14:22, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
Pick one name and stick to it. I would suggest Eros, as all the other names seem to be Greek rather than Roman. --
71.223.178.110 02:08, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
'
I deleted all the parenthetical references to Eros except for the first reference, identifying Eros as the Greek counterpart of Cupid. France3470 is right; the article is about the tale as told by Apuleius, who writes in Latin and calls the character Cupid. It's useful to note that Cupid = Eros (cautiously), but the article offers no scholarship on the question of Greek sources, and the boneheadedness of continually placing Eros in brackets resulted -- if the person doing this had bothered to notice -- in a major error: the parenthetical Eros was inserted into the Image tag for one of the Waterhouse paintings, and therefore the image wasn't showing up. It was also inserted into the title of the painting, which implied that the title was something other than it is.
This is far from the only shortcoming of the article, which consists largely of breathless summary (though clearly the author(s) love the story, which I don't mean to minimize) and lists. I corrected only the Eros business in a cursory manner, because of the two major errors it generated. The solution to naming is to call the characters what Apuleius called them, if the article is about the tale from the Metamorphoses (or the popular title as used here, "The Golden Ass"), and to call them the names used by the poets and artists who produce works drawing on the original tale. But the article as it stands is an undisciplined mess. Cynwolfe ( talk) 13:09, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
Psyche was an architect and interior designer for her father, her father liked her work so that let him to be his daughter. So Psyche is talent in art this field and other beautiful things. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Powercode2008 ( talk • contribs) 13:18, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
I have no clue what happened to this page, but sometime in the past few months, what was originally a fairly comprehensive and well written article has been replaced by something else entirely. I'm reverting back to the Revision as of 20:53, 6 October 2007 by Gawaxay, because after that the article has been replaced by someone's own unreferenced version of the story. I doubt there will be any objections to this but if there please just leave a note here. -- France3470 14:49, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
why is the word "sex" in boldface? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.30.218.110 ( talk) 23:20, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Once upon a time I learned that Psyche did not receive her name before she was deified, taken up into the heaven of the Olympus; and that her name as earthly princess of Sicily was Pernanaia (personified selling or marketing) or Phorne (prostitute). Perhaps this is merely a modern attribution to the story, but I find it interesting. If there are someone who are able to help me find where I've got this from I'd be pleased.-- Xact ( talk) 18:55, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
Neither "Pernanaia" nor "Phorne" is Greek. "pernemi" was a word used by epic poets for "piprasko" meaning to sell. "Porne" was the Greek for prostitute. There is some muddle here, but I can't reconstruct it. Diomedea Exulans ( talk) 17:10, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
The extensive section about a (roughly) similar Vedic myth is interesting, but what is it doing here? //roger.duprat.copenhagen
Cupid once scratched himself with one of his own arrows by mistake. He was looking at a woman called Psyche, and fell in love with her. He knew that his mother Venus would be angry, so he hid Psyche away and told her that she must never try to look at him. Psyche thought that she had been captured by a hideous monster, and, of course, couldn't resist taking a peep. She was enchanted by the first sight of her handsome husband, and while playing with his arrows, scratched herself as well. So now they were both desperately in love with each other, see right. Venus drove Psyche away, and she had many adventures before she was allowed to stay with Cupid, and Venus became reconciled to being a mother-in-law! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.27.164.135 ( talk) 18:49, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
I posted this for further reference to incorporate into this article. It will have to be re-written because I didn't write it. Thought I'd "talk" about it before writing my own summary.
The logo of the BPS depicts Psyche and her lamp, as homage to the origin of the word Psych and Psychology. Seems worth a mention. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.23.57.181 ( talk) 07:49, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
The legend as told in this article is completely different to what is told in Apuleius's The Golden Ass, and no citations are given for the new elements of the story. I'm accordingly rewriting it completely! Wwallacee ( talk) 03:04, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
I feel like this article needs a link to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cupid but I'm not sure what the rules are for how to best introduce a link, I'm guessing it should be in a sentence about Cupid himself, but there's no such sentence in the top part of the article. 46.252.130.50 ( talk) 12:12, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
Hi Cynwolfe, I've had this page watchlisted for years and delighted to see the expansion and clean up. Suggesting that the Bouguereau painting is replaced as lead image. Frankly he makes my skin crawl! Otherwise this is just great work here. Ceoil ( talk) 10:27, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
Section Psyche and the underworld, in the quotation is the below text.
The airway of Dis is there
Should probably by stairway - but I don't have any reference around to check. Could someone knowledgeable edit?
It reads like the Metamorphoses is the same as the Golden Ass, and in the rest of the sentence, if you don't know already, it is hard to tell which work is being referred to. I don't know for sure, but it is possible that this is what is meant: "Cupid and Psyche is a story from Ovid's Metamorphoses, that is retold (at greater length?) in The Golden Ass, which was written in the 2nd century AD by Apuleius. The story concerns..." Also I don't see a reason why "Metamorphoses" is not linked to /info/en/?search=Metamorphoses. I'm not sure of the relationship between the two works, because I've only read the Metamorphoses, but there is detail of the story that I don't remember from Ovid, so that is why I suggested that the tale was retold "at greater length" in Apuleius. But if someone who knows could just reword the beginning of the article so that it is clear when it is talking about Ovid, when Apuleius, and when the generic story itself, that would be helpful. FideliaE ( talk) 18:42, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
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