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With this section probably driving the bulk of traffic to the page, I think this section needs to be as well written as possible and would like to start a discussion on that.
In particular, I think the section could benefit from more information on the history of Christopher Rufo's discovery of CRT and realization that it could be used as a wedge issue. Additionally, the differences between CRT and DEI are not demarcated enough in this section. Finally, the line "in response to CRT being taught in schools" needs a big [citation needed] because I don't believe there are any known cases of curricula that include graduate-level critical theory in k-12 schooling. Perhaps "in response to the perception that CRT was being taught in schools" or "in response to the assertion from Christopher Rufo that CRT was being taught in schools." The section on DEI probably belongs on an entirely separate page, since DEI and CRT are two different things that are wrongly conflated for one another.
Mccartneyac (
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This article is flagged with "multiple issues" and requests for improvement, but editing seems to be turned off. How does one improve the article if one is not permitted to edit it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.95.43.253 ( talk) 19:06, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
When reading through the article, it does seem that the topic (and the discussion around it) is very much focused solely on the United States. It would be good if the lead paragraph could explain why the topic is an issue only affecting the US. It does explain that CRT "began in the United States in the post–civil rights era", but not why it's remained an issue that only appears to be controversial/discussed in the US. (Is CRT the cause for much debate in other countries? Or is there a distinct difference between anglophone countries and non-anglophone countries?)
It would also be good if the article could signpost other articles dealing with perspectives in other regions.
DrFrench ( talk) 14:02, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
"CRT also considers racism to be systemic in various laws and rules, and not only based on individuals' prejudices." Add "Racism does not need racists" https://courier.unesco.org/en/articles/racism-does-not-need-racists — Preceding unsigned comment added by Casandra368 ( talk • contribs) 12:11, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
The first sentence literally has too many commas: the one before shape and the one after shaped by are grammatically incorrect, implying the necessary verbs are a parenthetical phrase (almost immediately after the grammatically correct use of commas around an actual parenthetical phrase, social and political). Combined with how often the word and appears in the sentence, the text is easy to misinterpret as a (nonsensical) list.
Please change
to something like
-- 173.67.42.107 ( talk) 18:54, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
There is a declaration that schools were resegregated in the 1960s. That's relevantly and legally false. Either remove the assertion or contextualize it.
Riventree ( talk) 01:41, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
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With this section probably driving the bulk of traffic to the page, I think this section needs to be as well written as possible and would like to start a discussion on that.
In particular, I think the section could benefit from more information on the history of Christopher Rufo's discovery of CRT and realization that it could be used as a wedge issue. Additionally, the differences between CRT and DEI are not demarcated enough in this section. Finally, the line "in response to CRT being taught in schools" needs a big [citation needed] because I don't believe there are any known cases of curricula that include graduate-level critical theory in k-12 schooling. Perhaps "in response to the perception that CRT was being taught in schools" or "in response to the assertion from Christopher Rufo that CRT was being taught in schools." The section on DEI probably belongs on an entirely separate page, since DEI and CRT are two different things that are wrongly conflated for one another.
Mccartneyac (
talk) 13:05, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
This article is flagged with "multiple issues" and requests for improvement, but editing seems to be turned off. How does one improve the article if one is not permitted to edit it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.95.43.253 ( talk) 19:06, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
When reading through the article, it does seem that the topic (and the discussion around it) is very much focused solely on the United States. It would be good if the lead paragraph could explain why the topic is an issue only affecting the US. It does explain that CRT "began in the United States in the post–civil rights era", but not why it's remained an issue that only appears to be controversial/discussed in the US. (Is CRT the cause for much debate in other countries? Or is there a distinct difference between anglophone countries and non-anglophone countries?)
It would also be good if the article could signpost other articles dealing with perspectives in other regions.
DrFrench ( talk) 14:02, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
"CRT also considers racism to be systemic in various laws and rules, and not only based on individuals' prejudices." Add "Racism does not need racists" https://courier.unesco.org/en/articles/racism-does-not-need-racists — Preceding unsigned comment added by Casandra368 ( talk • contribs) 12:11, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
The first sentence literally has too many commas: the one before shape and the one after shaped by are grammatically incorrect, implying the necessary verbs are a parenthetical phrase (almost immediately after the grammatically correct use of commas around an actual parenthetical phrase, social and political). Combined with how often the word and appears in the sentence, the text is easy to misinterpret as a (nonsensical) list.
Please change
to something like
-- 173.67.42.107 ( talk) 18:54, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
There is a declaration that schools were resegregated in the 1960s. That's relevantly and legally false. Either remove the assertion or contextualize it.
Riventree ( talk) 01:41, 29 February 2024 (UTC)