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The rationale behind the creation of a separate page for the contents of the Voyager Golden Record was that the original article was missing a list of all the images contained on the record and adding them would have made the article too lengthy. Currently, it is not possible to include any image as thumbnails in the table because they are all copyrighted, but I am confident that in the near future, they will be released to the public (they are all 40 year old after all) and will be added to wikipedia's media collection. The same goes with all sounds and music present on the record.
So this article is about the media contained in the records while the Voyager Golden Record article is about the records themselves, the context of their creation and their philosophical implications. Tinss ( talk) 19:25, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
The Voyager Golden Record article mentions two texts (by Jimmy Carter and Kurt Waldheim) that were sent along with the records in space and gives and excerpt of one. I could not find integral versions anywhere one the web. If anyone does, please add them to this article in their respective sections. Tinss ( talk) 19:25, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
I don't want to make this an edit war, so rather than editing this change, I'm discussing it here. (1) By my count, there are 30 (not 28) Indo-European languages represented on the disk. (2) I would suggest that, to make the comment uniform with the others, that the Indo-European languages be marked - or, rather, as the non-Indo-European languages are a minority, that the 25 (or am I wrong on my count?) non-Indo-European be marked. (3) Which leads to the situation of several languages bearing two marks. (4) I realize that I contributed to the expansion of marks by marking the ancient languages, which I did with some concern that this would be reverted (I could make an argument for why that is notable, but I would not push it); but does anyone else find the IE/non-IE not particularly interesting? TomS TDotO ( talk) 15:15, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
I don't know whether the record has greetings in Armenian or in Azerbaijani. But I find it suspicious that after a long time with Armenian being listed, it suddenly is changed by an anonymous editor without any reference or discussion. I would at least like a little discussion of this. I don't like to get into edit wars. TomS TDotO ( talk) 10:15, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
Hey, I don't want to fight, I just want to discuss something. The article states that Germany is the most represented country on the record. However one of the arguments is Mozart, who is nowadays considered to be part of Austrian identity and was born and lived all his life in what is today modern Austria. Also he worked as a musician to the Austrian court. How was it deemed that he represents Germany, thus making it the most represented country? I know its hard to speak about modern nationalities when it comes to medieval personas, but then it might be wise to just omit this statement. -- dimi_z ( talk) 23:43, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
Mozart was born in Salzburg, which wasn't part of Austria then - it was a sovereign entity amidst the patchwork of the holy roman empire of the german nation. You'll never encounter the claim Hitler being an austrian though! He was german from day one... And it is absolute futile to debate these issues! People who drone on with soliloqies about the unworthyness of 'dark' races never come forth with their inference, that it automatically elevates them to the realm of worthiness. As if there ever was a racial theory published be someone, who was concerned with his low status instead of him being part of the upper crust. Mozart spoke german, so does every Austrian.-- 85.179.52.104 ( talk) 02:25, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
Whales were removed, in order to match the reference.
However, Sagan specifically mentions whales in Traveller's Tales; Additionally, goldenrecord.org which seems to include an almost complete copy of the actual tracks (?) lists these sections of audio:
So, we (and the nasa.gov source) seem to be entirely missing the 3rd section. Can anyone find a source for the specific contents of this section? The whale sound is well-explained in this smithsonianmag.com article, but I can't find a list of the UN Greetings anywhere. (The audio is widely available, and one of the English language components starts at 1:06, but google isn't finding the quote anywhere useful...). — Quiddity ( talk) 23:07, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
Does anyone know how to account for the discrepancy in numbers? The one extra language listed here that NASA does not include on its official web page is Esperanto, but why would this not be mentioned by NASA? Also worth noting is the fact that NASA just includes Greek and does not differentiate between ancient and modern Greek, whereas Latin and Italian each have their own greetings. I think this needs to be clarified, but I'd like some more information before I make those edits. Cheers, -- Not Sure ( talk) 01:31, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
Just moved "Hail" to the right column. See http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/spacecraft/languages/hittite.html
I've sent Jon Lomberg an e-mail asking him if he was willing to release the images in the Voyager Golden Record he owns to the public domain. Sadly, his response was negative, but maybe it would be worthwhile to go bother him again in a couple of years. I've pasted the exchange here for the record. Tinss ( talk) 21:56, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
How the images are encoded? Resolution, color scheme, etc.? How this encoding is "explained" to the aliens? -- RokerHRO ( talk) 11:34, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
Anyone thinks the name of the article should be changed? It is very much a list after all. Tinss ( talk) 18:49, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
I haven't been able to find info on this anywhere. Does anyone know what the total capacity of the disk was (in terms of running time of audio at the intended rpm)? I know I could just total up the listed contents but I am interested more specifically in a sense of the "budget" they were working with in selecting the contents of the disk. -- LWG talk 16:18, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
Can i add images to /info/en/?search=Contents_of_the_Voyager_Golden_Record#Images apart from images mentioned in here /info/en/?search=Talk:Contents_of_the_Voyager_Golden_Record#E-mail ? Bassedul ( talk) 18:12, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
The article on Wikipedia states that the Golden Record also carried an hour-long recording of the brainwaves of Ann Druyan. This is deceiving as the total maximum time sound could be recorded on the Golden Record is roughly 105 minutes, yet the article says the record also has about 90 minutes of music. The time of the music and a full hour of the brainwaves would be 150 minutes.
I found an article that states the brainwaves were compressed to one minute, in the "Life Signs" section:
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/what-is-on-voyagers-golden-record-73063839/
Please advise if the article on Wikipedia should also state the brainwaves were compressed. Note the following was in the Smithsonian article: "Compressed into a minute-long segment, the brain waves sound, writes Druyan, like a 'string of exploding firecrackers.'” Dkf12 ( talk) 18:47, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
The Persian transcript is currently incomplete, I wonder if some Farsi speaker could fix it (see source comment for audio link). — Mykhal ( talk) 12:13, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
This one could be possible transliterated greeting in Hittite:
aššuli → 𒀸𒋗𒇷
So this is a possible transliteration? -- 122.2.10.69 ( talk) 04:25, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
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How can I add this important information in article which is missing in it.
In addition to a selection of greetings, Voyager 1 includes an audio recording featuring a recitation of a Quranic verse, specifically Quran 55:33 from Surah ar-Rahman. This recitation can be accessed at the "United Nations Greetings / Whale Songs" Section of Voyager Golden Record .
https://goldenrecord.org/#discus-aureus
The verse is recited in Arabic:
يَـٰمَعْشَرَ ٱلْجِنِّ وَٱلْإِنسِ إِنِ ٱسْتَطَعْتُمْ أَن تَنفُذُوا۟ مِنْ أَقْطَارِ ٱلسَّمَـٰوَٰتِ وَٱلْأَرْضِ فَٱنفُذُوا۟ ۚ لَا تَنفُذُونَ إِلَّا بِسُلْطَـٰنٍ
The translation of the Quran verse is as follows:↵
"O genera of Jinn and mankind, If you are able to penetrate beyond the realms of the heavens and the earth, then penetrate. You cannot penetrate without power."
https://quran.com/ar-rahman/33?translations=84 Realverse2 ( talk) 10:13, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
Maybe it's spelled wrong on the record on goldenrecord.org. I think instead of "Roncadoras and Drums" it should be "Rondadoras and Drums"??? /info/en/?search=Rondador 2001:818:D91E:C200:A8CF:6941:2E6B:5C95 ( talk) 22:17, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
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The rationale behind the creation of a separate page for the contents of the Voyager Golden Record was that the original article was missing a list of all the images contained on the record and adding them would have made the article too lengthy. Currently, it is not possible to include any image as thumbnails in the table because they are all copyrighted, but I am confident that in the near future, they will be released to the public (they are all 40 year old after all) and will be added to wikipedia's media collection. The same goes with all sounds and music present on the record.
So this article is about the media contained in the records while the Voyager Golden Record article is about the records themselves, the context of their creation and their philosophical implications. Tinss ( talk) 19:25, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
The Voyager Golden Record article mentions two texts (by Jimmy Carter and Kurt Waldheim) that were sent along with the records in space and gives and excerpt of one. I could not find integral versions anywhere one the web. If anyone does, please add them to this article in their respective sections. Tinss ( talk) 19:25, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
I don't want to make this an edit war, so rather than editing this change, I'm discussing it here. (1) By my count, there are 30 (not 28) Indo-European languages represented on the disk. (2) I would suggest that, to make the comment uniform with the others, that the Indo-European languages be marked - or, rather, as the non-Indo-European languages are a minority, that the 25 (or am I wrong on my count?) non-Indo-European be marked. (3) Which leads to the situation of several languages bearing two marks. (4) I realize that I contributed to the expansion of marks by marking the ancient languages, which I did with some concern that this would be reverted (I could make an argument for why that is notable, but I would not push it); but does anyone else find the IE/non-IE not particularly interesting? TomS TDotO ( talk) 15:15, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
I don't know whether the record has greetings in Armenian or in Azerbaijani. But I find it suspicious that after a long time with Armenian being listed, it suddenly is changed by an anonymous editor without any reference or discussion. I would at least like a little discussion of this. I don't like to get into edit wars. TomS TDotO ( talk) 10:15, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
Hey, I don't want to fight, I just want to discuss something. The article states that Germany is the most represented country on the record. However one of the arguments is Mozart, who is nowadays considered to be part of Austrian identity and was born and lived all his life in what is today modern Austria. Also he worked as a musician to the Austrian court. How was it deemed that he represents Germany, thus making it the most represented country? I know its hard to speak about modern nationalities when it comes to medieval personas, but then it might be wise to just omit this statement. -- dimi_z ( talk) 23:43, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
Mozart was born in Salzburg, which wasn't part of Austria then - it was a sovereign entity amidst the patchwork of the holy roman empire of the german nation. You'll never encounter the claim Hitler being an austrian though! He was german from day one... And it is absolute futile to debate these issues! People who drone on with soliloqies about the unworthyness of 'dark' races never come forth with their inference, that it automatically elevates them to the realm of worthiness. As if there ever was a racial theory published be someone, who was concerned with his low status instead of him being part of the upper crust. Mozart spoke german, so does every Austrian.-- 85.179.52.104 ( talk) 02:25, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
Whales were removed, in order to match the reference.
However, Sagan specifically mentions whales in Traveller's Tales; Additionally, goldenrecord.org which seems to include an almost complete copy of the actual tracks (?) lists these sections of audio:
So, we (and the nasa.gov source) seem to be entirely missing the 3rd section. Can anyone find a source for the specific contents of this section? The whale sound is well-explained in this smithsonianmag.com article, but I can't find a list of the UN Greetings anywhere. (The audio is widely available, and one of the English language components starts at 1:06, but google isn't finding the quote anywhere useful...). — Quiddity ( talk) 23:07, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
Does anyone know how to account for the discrepancy in numbers? The one extra language listed here that NASA does not include on its official web page is Esperanto, but why would this not be mentioned by NASA? Also worth noting is the fact that NASA just includes Greek and does not differentiate between ancient and modern Greek, whereas Latin and Italian each have their own greetings. I think this needs to be clarified, but I'd like some more information before I make those edits. Cheers, -- Not Sure ( talk) 01:31, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
Just moved "Hail" to the right column. See http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/spacecraft/languages/hittite.html
I've sent Jon Lomberg an e-mail asking him if he was willing to release the images in the Voyager Golden Record he owns to the public domain. Sadly, his response was negative, but maybe it would be worthwhile to go bother him again in a couple of years. I've pasted the exchange here for the record. Tinss ( talk) 21:56, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
How the images are encoded? Resolution, color scheme, etc.? How this encoding is "explained" to the aliens? -- RokerHRO ( talk) 11:34, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
Anyone thinks the name of the article should be changed? It is very much a list after all. Tinss ( talk) 18:49, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
I haven't been able to find info on this anywhere. Does anyone know what the total capacity of the disk was (in terms of running time of audio at the intended rpm)? I know I could just total up the listed contents but I am interested more specifically in a sense of the "budget" they were working with in selecting the contents of the disk. -- LWG talk 16:18, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
Can i add images to /info/en/?search=Contents_of_the_Voyager_Golden_Record#Images apart from images mentioned in here /info/en/?search=Talk:Contents_of_the_Voyager_Golden_Record#E-mail ? Bassedul ( talk) 18:12, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
The article on Wikipedia states that the Golden Record also carried an hour-long recording of the brainwaves of Ann Druyan. This is deceiving as the total maximum time sound could be recorded on the Golden Record is roughly 105 minutes, yet the article says the record also has about 90 minutes of music. The time of the music and a full hour of the brainwaves would be 150 minutes.
I found an article that states the brainwaves were compressed to one minute, in the "Life Signs" section:
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/what-is-on-voyagers-golden-record-73063839/
Please advise if the article on Wikipedia should also state the brainwaves were compressed. Note the following was in the Smithsonian article: "Compressed into a minute-long segment, the brain waves sound, writes Druyan, like a 'string of exploding firecrackers.'” Dkf12 ( talk) 18:47, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
The Persian transcript is currently incomplete, I wonder if some Farsi speaker could fix it (see source comment for audio link). — Mykhal ( talk) 12:13, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
This one could be possible transliterated greeting in Hittite:
aššuli → 𒀸𒋗𒇷
So this is a possible transliteration? -- 122.2.10.69 ( talk) 04:25, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
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How can I add this important information in article which is missing in it.
In addition to a selection of greetings, Voyager 1 includes an audio recording featuring a recitation of a Quranic verse, specifically Quran 55:33 from Surah ar-Rahman. This recitation can be accessed at the "United Nations Greetings / Whale Songs" Section of Voyager Golden Record .
https://goldenrecord.org/#discus-aureus
The verse is recited in Arabic:
يَـٰمَعْشَرَ ٱلْجِنِّ وَٱلْإِنسِ إِنِ ٱسْتَطَعْتُمْ أَن تَنفُذُوا۟ مِنْ أَقْطَارِ ٱلسَّمَـٰوَٰتِ وَٱلْأَرْضِ فَٱنفُذُوا۟ ۚ لَا تَنفُذُونَ إِلَّا بِسُلْطَـٰنٍ
The translation of the Quran verse is as follows:↵
"O genera of Jinn and mankind, If you are able to penetrate beyond the realms of the heavens and the earth, then penetrate. You cannot penetrate without power."
https://quran.com/ar-rahman/33?translations=84 Realverse2 ( talk) 10:13, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
Maybe it's spelled wrong on the record on goldenrecord.org. I think instead of "Roncadoras and Drums" it should be "Rondadoras and Drums"??? /info/en/?search=Rondador 2001:818:D91E:C200:A8CF:6941:2E6B:5C95 ( talk) 22:17, 2 March 2024 (UTC)