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Is this phrase really necessary? I assume Zombie-Freud was somewhat less interested in writing... Juansmith 20:05, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
I have removed the following phrase:
It is true that Freud's specific theories are no longer accepted as valid in psychology, but they are highly relevant to literary theory and philosophy. Additionally, his general model of man as an animal motivated by irrational subconscious urges is still deeply influential in many areas of culture. — goethean ॐ 15:52, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
It is simply not the case that Freud's theories are uniformly not regarded as valid in psychology. Freud's theories remain relevant to clinical theory and practice, notwithstanding other theories that have developed since his time. 68.161.235.177 ( talk) 19:37, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaise_dans_la_civilisation
The article is a good synopsis of the book, and the book is an important one.
Previously, the first two sentences of the first section (the section after the introductory remarks) were:
However, this wording was clearly at odds with the first sentence of the next paragraph:
Wording in the first paragraph ("enumerates the fundamental tensions..." and "the primary friction...") is at odds with the word "notion" in the second paragraph. Afterall, the whole book stems from the "notions" of an important figure in the history of psychology and psychiatry, but notions nonetheless.
The book represents Freud's views on the topic. I changed the wording of a couple sentences to reflect this, rather than leaving the article to present the synopsis of the book as though it is a statement of absolute fact.
Somebody may wish to change my new wording, but please take into account my consideration behind the alteration. Freud's theories are just that: theories — not facts. The wording should leave the reader clear that the book is the assertion and explication of a viewpoint. Joel Russ ( talk) 00:51, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
It is not. Freud mostly rejected the cryptic idea of instincts and most of his work was based on the idea that pleasure is what drives people. The word instinct came from poor translations of the german word trieb. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Surement ( talk • contribs) 22:01, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
Is this a reference to "component instincts"? Doughboy1234 ( talk) 14:38, 4 March 2016 (UTC) "The word 'instinct' is used to translate two German words, 'Instinkt' and 'Trieb'" (Laplanche and Pontalis 214). Doughboy1234 ( talk) 19:15, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
These two points about libido seem incorrect:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Freud seems to associate libido exclusively with sexual energy and aggressivity with the death drive (something different from libido): “The name ‘libido’ can once more be used to denote the manifestations of the power of Eros in order to distinguish them from the energy of the death instinct” (77). Doughboy1234 ( talk) 14:53, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
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Is this phrase really necessary? I assume Zombie-Freud was somewhat less interested in writing... Juansmith 20:05, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
I have removed the following phrase:
It is true that Freud's specific theories are no longer accepted as valid in psychology, but they are highly relevant to literary theory and philosophy. Additionally, his general model of man as an animal motivated by irrational subconscious urges is still deeply influential in many areas of culture. — goethean ॐ 15:52, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
It is simply not the case that Freud's theories are uniformly not regarded as valid in psychology. Freud's theories remain relevant to clinical theory and practice, notwithstanding other theories that have developed since his time. 68.161.235.177 ( talk) 19:37, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaise_dans_la_civilisation
The article is a good synopsis of the book, and the book is an important one.
Previously, the first two sentences of the first section (the section after the introductory remarks) were:
However, this wording was clearly at odds with the first sentence of the next paragraph:
Wording in the first paragraph ("enumerates the fundamental tensions..." and "the primary friction...") is at odds with the word "notion" in the second paragraph. Afterall, the whole book stems from the "notions" of an important figure in the history of psychology and psychiatry, but notions nonetheless.
The book represents Freud's views on the topic. I changed the wording of a couple sentences to reflect this, rather than leaving the article to present the synopsis of the book as though it is a statement of absolute fact.
Somebody may wish to change my new wording, but please take into account my consideration behind the alteration. Freud's theories are just that: theories — not facts. The wording should leave the reader clear that the book is the assertion and explication of a viewpoint. Joel Russ ( talk) 00:51, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
It is not. Freud mostly rejected the cryptic idea of instincts and most of his work was based on the idea that pleasure is what drives people. The word instinct came from poor translations of the german word trieb. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Surement ( talk • contribs) 22:01, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
Is this a reference to "component instincts"? Doughboy1234 ( talk) 14:38, 4 March 2016 (UTC) "The word 'instinct' is used to translate two German words, 'Instinkt' and 'Trieb'" (Laplanche and Pontalis 214). Doughboy1234 ( talk) 19:15, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
These two points about libido seem incorrect:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Freud seems to associate libido exclusively with sexual energy and aggressivity with the death drive (something different from libido): “The name ‘libido’ can once more be used to denote the manifestations of the power of Eros in order to distinguish them from the energy of the death instinct” (77). Doughboy1234 ( talk) 14:53, 4 March 2016 (UTC)