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This article appears to be written by the American Chiropractic Association. IT is far too one-sided. For example, one sentence reads, "American Chiropractic Neurology Board defines the chiropractic neurologist as someone who provides the same manner of consultation as a medical neurologist, with the major difference being that the therapies and applications are performed without the use of drugs or surgery."
This is utterly bogus. A medical neurologist has at least 4 years of undergraduate school, 4 years of medical school, and 3 to 8 years of internship and residency. A Chiropractor doesn't even have to graduate high school. To even hint that a Chiropractic Neurologist has the same level of training as a medical doctor is simply bogus.
To be accurate, that sentence should be balanced with critical information from ACTUAL medical organizations. Perhaps a comparison of the level of education required to be a medical neurologist would help clarify things?
To say a Chiropractor does not even have to graduate high school is a bogus statement. A Chiropractic neurologist also has to have four years of undergraduate degree and a four year doctorate of chiropractic degree prior to pursuing the Chiropractic neurolgy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rock climber02 ( talk • contribs) 05:56, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
http://skepticreport.com/sr/?p=88
http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/09-10-21
An excerpt from http://renish.skepdic.com/EdNote03.html offers a good counterpoint by saying "(Chiropractic Neurology) is the brainchild of Frederick R. Carrick, DC, Distinguished Post Graduate Professor of Clinical Neurology at Logan College of Chiropractic and Professor Emeritus of Neurology at Parker College of Chiropractic. He holds a Ph.D. in education, with a concentration in brain-based learning, from the distance-learning Walden University. On at least one public occasion, Carrick insisted he be introduced as a neurosurgeon. Walden is accredited by the North Central Association of Colleges and Schools. The last year Walden has reported on, it had 26,615 full-time and 5358 part-time graduate students and awarded 219 doctoral degrees but no master's degrees, which indicates that its graduate students are either extraordinarily slow in earning their degrees or that it has an extraordinarily high dropout rate."
Jimexcelcs ( talk) 14:49, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
- Yes this article is barely worth having in the current state. I certainly don't have the ability or time to beat it into shape; maybe someone else does? Otherwise it should be deleted. 203.38.24.65 ( talk) 06:19, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
This article talks pretty much exclusively about regulatory bodies — it really doesn't say anything about what "chiropractic neurology" is, how it is similar to / different from non-chiropractic neurology, etc. I realize any sort of discussion of chiropractic (or its various branches) is likely to get tangled up in the whole argument of whether chiropractic is real or bogus; I'd be satisfied here just to see a readable, well-sourced explanation of what chiropractic neurology is and how it fits into the overall chiropractic topic area. — Rich wales (no relation to Jimbo) 19:56, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
I just got rid of a bunch of stuff from this article that wasn't supported by any sources and updated the wording in a lot of areas to more accurately reflect the sources. However, it's still all based on primary sources and therefore not really verifiable. It would be great if someone could add some independent, reliable sources to supplement/replace the majority of the primary ones. I agree with previous comments on this talkpage from Rock climber02 and Richwales, but I was mainly working with the sources at hand because it's not easy to find RS independent of the subject. I'm also at a loss as to what chiropractic neurology is really all about or I would have tried to expand some of those areas. I figured the best I could do for now was to trim down a lot of the acronyms and extraneous details from the credentialing sections. PermStrump (talk) 01:18, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
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Permstrump: Re: what is chiropractic neurology all about. Based on what I have read (and yes, reliable sources are hard (i.e. impossible) to find), CN is a treatment method that involves using chiropractic manipulations of joints and limbs (often as simple as repetitive waving or swing of arms) in order to "re-wire" the brain to address the brain/body imbalances that the practitioner perceives as the root cause of the disease being treated. So the thinking goes like this: you have migraines (or epilepsy or Parkinson's or ...) because your brain is imbalanced. But there is a thing called
neuroplasticity, so, because your body maps to your brain, you can manipulate the body, and cause the brain imbalance to correct itself. (No, I don't believe this, I'm just reporting what the practitioners are claiming.)
WikiDan61
ChatMe!
ReadMe!! 14:39, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
- @ WikiDan61: Thanks! I updated the lead and used some of your wording. PermStrump (talk) 03:32, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
Anyone want to help me with this? Anyone else care to explain the merits of this article standing alone? Delta13C ( talk) 17:20, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
- You should place a {{ mergeto}} template on the article to inform readers of this discussion. Personally, I'm opposed to the merge. Chiropractic on the whole has risen from a fringe area to become something of a mainstream medical practice, whereas chiropractic neurology remains a fringe theory with little scientific evidence for its efficacy. I think merging the two articles detracts from the overall chiropractic article, and adds undeserved legitimacy to chiropractic neurology. WikiDan61 ChatMe! ReadMe!! 12:09, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
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This article appears to be written by the American Chiropractic Association. IT is far too one-sided. For example, one sentence reads, "American Chiropractic Neurology Board defines the chiropractic neurologist as someone who provides the same manner of consultation as a medical neurologist, with the major difference being that the therapies and applications are performed without the use of drugs or surgery."
This is utterly bogus. A medical neurologist has at least 4 years of undergraduate school, 4 years of medical school, and 3 to 8 years of internship and residency. A Chiropractor doesn't even have to graduate high school. To even hint that a Chiropractic Neurologist has the same level of training as a medical doctor is simply bogus.
To be accurate, that sentence should be balanced with critical information from ACTUAL medical organizations. Perhaps a comparison of the level of education required to be a medical neurologist would help clarify things?
To say a Chiropractor does not even have to graduate high school is a bogus statement. A Chiropractic neurologist also has to have four years of undergraduate degree and a four year doctorate of chiropractic degree prior to pursuing the Chiropractic neurolgy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rock climber02 ( talk • contribs) 05:56, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
http://skepticreport.com/sr/?p=88
http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/09-10-21
An excerpt from http://renish.skepdic.com/EdNote03.html offers a good counterpoint by saying "(Chiropractic Neurology) is the brainchild of Frederick R. Carrick, DC, Distinguished Post Graduate Professor of Clinical Neurology at Logan College of Chiropractic and Professor Emeritus of Neurology at Parker College of Chiropractic. He holds a Ph.D. in education, with a concentration in brain-based learning, from the distance-learning Walden University. On at least one public occasion, Carrick insisted he be introduced as a neurosurgeon. Walden is accredited by the North Central Association of Colleges and Schools. The last year Walden has reported on, it had 26,615 full-time and 5358 part-time graduate students and awarded 219 doctoral degrees but no master's degrees, which indicates that its graduate students are either extraordinarily slow in earning their degrees or that it has an extraordinarily high dropout rate."
Jimexcelcs ( talk) 14:49, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
- Yes this article is barely worth having in the current state. I certainly don't have the ability or time to beat it into shape; maybe someone else does? Otherwise it should be deleted. 203.38.24.65 ( talk) 06:19, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
This article talks pretty much exclusively about regulatory bodies — it really doesn't say anything about what "chiropractic neurology" is, how it is similar to / different from non-chiropractic neurology, etc. I realize any sort of discussion of chiropractic (or its various branches) is likely to get tangled up in the whole argument of whether chiropractic is real or bogus; I'd be satisfied here just to see a readable, well-sourced explanation of what chiropractic neurology is and how it fits into the overall chiropractic topic area. — Rich wales (no relation to Jimbo) 19:56, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
I just got rid of a bunch of stuff from this article that wasn't supported by any sources and updated the wording in a lot of areas to more accurately reflect the sources. However, it's still all based on primary sources and therefore not really verifiable. It would be great if someone could add some independent, reliable sources to supplement/replace the majority of the primary ones. I agree with previous comments on this talkpage from Rock climber02 and Richwales, but I was mainly working with the sources at hand because it's not easy to find RS independent of the subject. I'm also at a loss as to what chiropractic neurology is really all about or I would have tried to expand some of those areas. I figured the best I could do for now was to trim down a lot of the acronyms and extraneous details from the credentialing sections. PermStrump (talk) 01:18, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
- @
Permstrump: Re: what is chiropractic neurology all about. Based on what I have read (and yes, reliable sources are hard (i.e. impossible) to find), CN is a treatment method that involves using chiropractic manipulations of joints and limbs (often as simple as repetitive waving or swing of arms) in order to "re-wire" the brain to address the brain/body imbalances that the practitioner perceives as the root cause of the disease being treated. So the thinking goes like this: you have migraines (or epilepsy or Parkinson's or ...) because your brain is imbalanced. But there is a thing called
neuroplasticity, so, because your body maps to your brain, you can manipulate the body, and cause the brain imbalance to correct itself. (No, I don't believe this, I'm just reporting what the practitioners are claiming.)
WikiDan61
ChatMe!
ReadMe!! 14:39, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
- @ WikiDan61: Thanks! I updated the lead and used some of your wording. PermStrump (talk) 03:32, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
Anyone want to help me with this? Anyone else care to explain the merits of this article standing alone? Delta13C ( talk) 17:20, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
- You should place a {{ mergeto}} template on the article to inform readers of this discussion. Personally, I'm opposed to the merge. Chiropractic on the whole has risen from a fringe area to become something of a mainstream medical practice, whereas chiropractic neurology remains a fringe theory with little scientific evidence for its efficacy. I think merging the two articles detracts from the overall chiropractic article, and adds undeserved legitimacy to chiropractic neurology. WikiDan61 ChatMe! ReadMe!! 12:09, 1 August 2016 (UTC)