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It should be noted on the page that while she has technically won 12 women's championships in her career, WWE does not yet recognize this statistic yet as it is unclear if her two NXT reigns actually count towards the full count of reigns.
But if they didn’t recognize her NXT Women’s title reigns, doesn’t that technically mean they wouldn’t recognize her as a Grand Slam Champion either? Megppg99 ( talk) 04:46, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
They do whatever they want. Whatever looks sexy on paper. They call the Street Profits "Triple crown" tag team champions bc they also won the NXT tag titles, meanwhile nobody on the main roster can even compete for those titles so it's a joke. In my eyes Charlotte is an 11x champion. 5 raw, 5 SD and 1 divas. I do not count her NXT reigns and according to Charlotte herself and Sonya Deville on Raw 7.19.21 they don't either. They called her 11x champion. I updated the article to reflect this. 68.196.76.206 ( talk) 22:20, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
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Ashley Fliehr → Charlotte (wrestler) – She hasn't really wrestled as "Ashley Fliehr" or "Ashley Flair" from what I remember. All her notability has been as "Charlotte." GeicoHen ( talk) 14:08, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
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Given the existence of other article names such as Naomi Knight and the recently-renamed Christian Cage, which have added the wrestlers' less commonly used character surnames in order to remove the need for the less concise (wrestler) disambiguation marker, would it possibly be a good idea to move Charlotte's article to outright become Charlotte Flair? I understand it's not quite the same deal, as Charlotte Flair has never been her official ring name at any point; however, she is openly acknowledged as Ric Flair's daughter as an integral part of the Charlotte persona, we know "Flair" is "Fliehr" re-spelled, and Charlotte Flair has become a common unofficial name to refer to her as to the point that even NXT commentators have slipped up and called her this on occasion. For that matter, it might be a good idea to do the same for Natalya and change her to Natalya Neidhart (which exists as a redirect), who has the added bonus of having her last name actually be used as part of the Natalya character name when she was originally introduced to the WWE main roster as well as on WWE.com in an article sourced from 2014. Thoughts? 73.204.231.72 ( talk) 16:23, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
You should change it as she now officially goes by Charlotte Flair FlashGaming ( talk) 13:59, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
The text of the cited news story only mentions an "unidentified 22-year-old man", not Riki Johnson. Furthermore, was she actually married at this time (the entry says "then-husband")? If you search Fliehr at the Mecklenburg County Record Database ( http://meckrod.manatron.com/Marriage/SearchEntry.aspx?e=newSession), it shows a marriage license between the two was dated May 2010; so (assuming that 2010 date is accurate) either (a) they were married somewhere else in 2008, divorced, then remarried in 2010, or (b) they weren't married in 2008.
Somewhat related, the Latimer marriage took place in 2013 (if that detail would help the entry) according to the Orange County Comptroller (again, search Fliehr at http://or.occompt.com/recorder/eagleweb/docSearch.jsp). Dalton Imperial ( talk) 15:09, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
@ TheBellaTwins1445: re your removal at special:diff/735897565
Assuming you watched Raw last night you must remember hearing Charlotte being called this. It is definitely a reliable change to introduce this nickname to her article.
I did not introduce any new sources. I cited ones we have already accepted. Please add back the information you removed from the page.
I realize the Bellas are sore about Charlotte ending Nikki's reign but that is no reason to go and remove her nicknames. Ranze ( talk) 03:36, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
@ LM2000: I will reproduce the 3 sources I originally expanded, here for you to read, along with explanations.
Charlotte hit the Bow Down to the Queen
Here too I will reproduce the 5 sources from WWE.com that you just removed in special:diff/735951179. I'm wondering if you even checked them before deleting them and demanding consensus, even though nobody had actually objected to them yet.
Will Charlotte sustain her rule over the NXT Divas division and make Bayley "Bow Down to the Queen" at NXT TakeOver?
CHARLOTTE: Honestly, people ask all the time if we feel pressure to deliver, or do we feel pressure from people putting us in these positions. But I don't think any of us feel the pressure, just because we're able to lean on each other. I don't know how to explain it; you all know what I mean? Watch: .. The Queen vs. The Boss
Brie's Divas Championship Match with Charlotte at WWE Fastlane has taken on new meaning .. Charlotte was free to build momentum with a second victory over Alicia Fox
The Boss bows to "the queen."
What objections do you have to these five? I've presented overwhelming evidence here. Ranze ( talk) 05:38, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
It's clear to me that the people objecting have not checked all of the sources. Perhaps you looked at one of the weaker ones and stopped there, not checking further.
@ LM2000: only some of the sources do as you say. Ignore them if you'd like and focus on the ones which are clearly referring to Charlotte as "The Queen". For example here are two I'd like you to take a second look at:
Charlotte says the only statement that is going to be made is her bowing down to her. Sasha might be the Boss, but she is the Queen.
The Boss bows to "the queen."
This is not a new nickname though, it is using one that she's had for at least a year, as its incorporated into her move name. Ranze ( talk) 09:31, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
@ Crash Underride: when you are done telling jokes, feel free to look at sources like the one above. My adding proof is not disruptive. This nickname is notable. These sources all support "The Queen" connected with Charlotte, some more clearly than others. Please stop engaging in false accusations. Ranze ( talk) 09:31, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
@ WarMachineWildThing: "its unsourced" is incorrect, I just listed sources for you, and I included sources each time I added it. Chris/WMWT you clearly missed something. Are you expecting the word "nickname" to be used? Look at the two sources I re-posted for LM2000 again please. Ranze ( talk) 09:31, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
WP:AGF is becoming difficult when you engage in misleading wordplay like this. Review the following sentence:
Is it a nod to her finishing move? Sure, but it's still referring to Charlotte as being the queen. Having your nickname incorporated into one of your moves is common enough. Edge (wrestler) has the "Edgecution" for example.
Your saying "shortly followed by" is misleading because while "to the" is short, "-ing down to her. Sasha might be the Boss but she is" isn't particularly short. Plus that's "Bowing" not "Bow".
Also considering this:
Even if this is still a nod to Charlotte's move name, her move is not named "the queen", so Sasha is not bowing to Charlotte's finisher, she's bowing to Charlotte, aka "The Queen".
Where is "bow" in these four?
CHARLOTTE: Honestly, people ask all the time if we feel pressure to deliver, or do we feel pressure from people putting us in these positions. But I don't think any of us feel the pressure, just because we're able to lean on each other. I don't know how to explain it; you all know what I mean? Watch: .. The Queen vs. The Boss
Charlotte appears to have hurt her ankle. Charlotte kips up and she gets the rollup and three count while Ric distracts Becky.
Brie's Divas Championship Match with Charlotte at WWE Fastlane has taken on new meaning .. Charlotte was free to build momentum with a second victory over Alicia Fox
the-boss-and-the-queen-are-on-the-move-in-the-wwe-power-rankings
I don't see "bow" in these. Just "The Queen" consistently being used to refer to Charlotte from May 2015 to July 2016. Ranze ( talk) 10:22, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
Here's some more:
Bring Queen Charlotte Back .. On NXT, Charlotte was the Queen .. The only way to fix this issue is to bring Queen Charlotte back.
Watch: The Queen and The Boss clash in title classic
The WWE Women's Championship is now fit for A QUEEN!
See, The Queen doesn't need ANYBODY!
The Queen will RECLAIM her throne TONIGHT at WWE SummerSlam...
Is all this going to be dismissed too? Ranze ( talk) 10:51, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
@ Crash Underride: you are disrupting the process of community discussion by mischaracterizing the sources I'm giving you. This is not an appropiate place to make personal attacks on me. Cameron's full name and Dean Ambrose's nicknames have nothing to do with Charlotte (wrestler). You can bring that up on the wikiproject or complain about it to admins or something.
I have provided proper sources, and those who have opted to honestly review them like LM2000 have acknowledged this even if still on the fence as to whether we agree on their importance. If you invite any third parties to come evaluate these sources they will plainly see that every source I've introduced is related to the association between Charlotte and "The Queen". Some indirectly (the ones referencing the "Bown Down to the Queen" move) and some directly (Charlotte being called "The Queen").
I have never lied here, and if you get that impression, you may not understand the context in which I have presented some of the sources, such as the indirect-support 'bown down' couple. Ranze ( talk) 01:47, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
I have introduced a couple template:unreliable source? templates to the date ranges given here and I don't think they should be removed until we have updated out sources. We presently do have sources but they do not support all the numbers given.
The side template says (m. 2010; div. 2012) for Johnson and (m. 2013; div. 2015) for Latimer. Both are probably true. I assume good faith and whoever added them probably did get them from a reliable source but just didn't include it.
The sources we actually include which mention the marriage are these:
Charlotte was married to Riki Johnson. The couple got married in North Carolina last May 2010 .. Right now, she is still currently married to Thomas Raymond Latimer
That divorce was finalized in the State of Florida on 10/29.
The first source affirms the month/year she married Johnson but does not mention what year they divorced. We still need a source to affirm that they divorced in 2012.
The second and first source affirms that she was presently married to Latimer during the time of each article's publication (October 2014 and July 2015) but neither mentions when they got married, we still need a source affirming that 2013 was the year they were married.
The third source affirms the date that she and Latimer were divorced (October 2015) but nothing about when the marriage began, or when she and Johnson divorced.
So basically, we need sources to support the "divorced Johnson 2012" and the "married Latimer 2013" stats. If this data is presently available in a reference currently here then we need to alias it and cite it. Only the "married Johnson 2010" and "divorced Latimer 2015" stats are supported right now by the cites.
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Update: @ Dalton Imperial: was right about the Orange Country Compttroller, I just added that to support the 2013 marriage to Latimer, now the only source missing is the 2012 divorce date to Johnson. Perhaps if we could find out what state it happened in we could find a similar Comptroller log for it? Ranze ( talk) 20:00, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
If I am reading these correctly all that is missing is the divorce from Johnson. So if we were to break everything down she could have divorced him anytime between 2010 and 2013. Am I correct in assuming that it is not known where they were living when married, alot of divorces can be found in court records if we knew what state. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" ( talk) 22:00, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved to Charlotte Flair. Consensus was that recent sources and WWE events use the new name. It's also a natural disambiguator. -- Patar knight - chat/ contributions 17:29, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
Charlotte (wrestler) → Charlotte Flair – As with Natalya Neidhart, WP:NATDAB would have applied anyway, but should be moved per WP:NAMECHANGES as this is what she is being billed as now. [1] LM2000 ( talk) 20:45, 29 October 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. Bradv 03:18, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
*Oppose - She's known as Charlotte atm so we should stick with it until sources and the media state otherwise. –
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SUPPORT It was on numerous sites that she was adding Flair to her name. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 08:42, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
WWE.com is a main source, Wikipedia is founded on sources. The fact there are so many solid sources and this is still going on is insane. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 02:05, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
Now it doesn't exist outside of badly written wwe.com pieces, From today: PWinsider, from yesterday: Wrestling Observer, from Tuesday: PWinsider Wrestleview. LM2000 ( talk) 17:13, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
Mick Foley just called her CHARLOTTE FLAIR on Monday Night RAW at 8:05pm, sooooo now it's been on several different reliable sites and RAW. Clearly they are not giving up on it. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 02:19, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
On being billed as Charlotte Flair now instead of Charlotte: Obviously we haven’t shied away from being my dad’s daughter, but I think it was the company’s way of saying she can do it and she can own it. And that’s pretty cool. It’s weird to have two names now. It makes for a longer [autograph] signing. My hand’s cramping more. [laughs] But I think it was cool the company was putting that much thought into my growth and my character. It really does make a difference.
It was the name of her somersault cutter on from her NXT debut and at least until she won the NXT Women's Championship at NXT Takeover. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grizzexploder ( talk • contribs) 09:40, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
It states in the article that Charlotte hasn't lost any matches on pay per views, however, she lost at Battleground 2016. So that information is inaccurate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:587:2:F27E:D8AE:CC20:17B6:8ED7 ( talk) 07:11, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
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Change her surname from Fleihr to Flair which is her fathers name that was also given to her 95.87.30.124 ( talk) 13:22, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
Is Charlotte a heel or not? Because after her supposed heel turn at Survivor Series, she beat down The IIconics. -- CEDJunior ( talk) 04:40, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
Mention her current partner . Rk73520 ( talk) 13:37, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Partner Andrade Cien almas Rk73520 ( talk) 13:40, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Trainers are already mentioned above on the list, no need to specifically name them on the main body, no other wrestlers have names of their trainers listed on the main body, just named on the list, so changed that, its unnecessary details. Just focus on her main debut on 2012-2014 early career section. Dilbaggg ( talk) 13:59, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
According to WWE.com, Charlotte is still a RAW Superstar even though she holds an NXT Title. Please change her back to RAW until WWE confirms that brand change. https://www.wwe.com/superstars/charlotte-flair — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.236.80.152 ( talk) 13:01, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
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Add Megan Thompson to Relatives, Megan Thompson is Charlotte's sister, Ric Flair is their father, Megan Thompson is the wife of Conrad Thompson who is Charlotte's Brother-In-Law 172.112.203.42 ( talk) 10:21, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
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Please change the photo. There are far more appealing and accurate photos of what Charlotte looks like. The portrait of her currently used results in people commenting negatively on her looks and making fun of her. It is also 4 years old. 99.144.168.49 ( talk) 06:43, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
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It should be noted on the page that while she has technically won 12 women's championships in her career, WWE does not yet recognize this statistic yet as it is unclear if her two NXT reigns actually count towards the full count of reigns.
But if they didn’t recognize her NXT Women’s title reigns, doesn’t that technically mean they wouldn’t recognize her as a Grand Slam Champion either? Megppg99 ( talk) 04:46, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
They do whatever they want. Whatever looks sexy on paper. They call the Street Profits "Triple crown" tag team champions bc they also won the NXT tag titles, meanwhile nobody on the main roster can even compete for those titles so it's a joke. In my eyes Charlotte is an 11x champion. 5 raw, 5 SD and 1 divas. I do not count her NXT reigns and according to Charlotte herself and Sonya Deville on Raw 7.19.21 they don't either. They called her 11x champion. I updated the article to reflect this. 68.196.76.206 ( talk) 22:20, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
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Ashley Fliehr → Charlotte (wrestler) – She hasn't really wrestled as "Ashley Fliehr" or "Ashley Flair" from what I remember. All her notability has been as "Charlotte." GeicoHen ( talk) 14:08, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
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Given the existence of other article names such as Naomi Knight and the recently-renamed Christian Cage, which have added the wrestlers' less commonly used character surnames in order to remove the need for the less concise (wrestler) disambiguation marker, would it possibly be a good idea to move Charlotte's article to outright become Charlotte Flair? I understand it's not quite the same deal, as Charlotte Flair has never been her official ring name at any point; however, she is openly acknowledged as Ric Flair's daughter as an integral part of the Charlotte persona, we know "Flair" is "Fliehr" re-spelled, and Charlotte Flair has become a common unofficial name to refer to her as to the point that even NXT commentators have slipped up and called her this on occasion. For that matter, it might be a good idea to do the same for Natalya and change her to Natalya Neidhart (which exists as a redirect), who has the added bonus of having her last name actually be used as part of the Natalya character name when she was originally introduced to the WWE main roster as well as on WWE.com in an article sourced from 2014. Thoughts? 73.204.231.72 ( talk) 16:23, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
You should change it as she now officially goes by Charlotte Flair FlashGaming ( talk) 13:59, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
The text of the cited news story only mentions an "unidentified 22-year-old man", not Riki Johnson. Furthermore, was she actually married at this time (the entry says "then-husband")? If you search Fliehr at the Mecklenburg County Record Database ( http://meckrod.manatron.com/Marriage/SearchEntry.aspx?e=newSession), it shows a marriage license between the two was dated May 2010; so (assuming that 2010 date is accurate) either (a) they were married somewhere else in 2008, divorced, then remarried in 2010, or (b) they weren't married in 2008.
Somewhat related, the Latimer marriage took place in 2013 (if that detail would help the entry) according to the Orange County Comptroller (again, search Fliehr at http://or.occompt.com/recorder/eagleweb/docSearch.jsp). Dalton Imperial ( talk) 15:09, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
@ TheBellaTwins1445: re your removal at special:diff/735897565
Assuming you watched Raw last night you must remember hearing Charlotte being called this. It is definitely a reliable change to introduce this nickname to her article.
I did not introduce any new sources. I cited ones we have already accepted. Please add back the information you removed from the page.
I realize the Bellas are sore about Charlotte ending Nikki's reign but that is no reason to go and remove her nicknames. Ranze ( talk) 03:36, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
@ LM2000: I will reproduce the 3 sources I originally expanded, here for you to read, along with explanations.
Charlotte hit the Bow Down to the Queen
Here too I will reproduce the 5 sources from WWE.com that you just removed in special:diff/735951179. I'm wondering if you even checked them before deleting them and demanding consensus, even though nobody had actually objected to them yet.
Will Charlotte sustain her rule over the NXT Divas division and make Bayley "Bow Down to the Queen" at NXT TakeOver?
CHARLOTTE: Honestly, people ask all the time if we feel pressure to deliver, or do we feel pressure from people putting us in these positions. But I don't think any of us feel the pressure, just because we're able to lean on each other. I don't know how to explain it; you all know what I mean? Watch: .. The Queen vs. The Boss
Brie's Divas Championship Match with Charlotte at WWE Fastlane has taken on new meaning .. Charlotte was free to build momentum with a second victory over Alicia Fox
The Boss bows to "the queen."
What objections do you have to these five? I've presented overwhelming evidence here. Ranze ( talk) 05:38, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
It's clear to me that the people objecting have not checked all of the sources. Perhaps you looked at one of the weaker ones and stopped there, not checking further.
@ LM2000: only some of the sources do as you say. Ignore them if you'd like and focus on the ones which are clearly referring to Charlotte as "The Queen". For example here are two I'd like you to take a second look at:
Charlotte says the only statement that is going to be made is her bowing down to her. Sasha might be the Boss, but she is the Queen.
The Boss bows to "the queen."
This is not a new nickname though, it is using one that she's had for at least a year, as its incorporated into her move name. Ranze ( talk) 09:31, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
@ Crash Underride: when you are done telling jokes, feel free to look at sources like the one above. My adding proof is not disruptive. This nickname is notable. These sources all support "The Queen" connected with Charlotte, some more clearly than others. Please stop engaging in false accusations. Ranze ( talk) 09:31, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
@ WarMachineWildThing: "its unsourced" is incorrect, I just listed sources for you, and I included sources each time I added it. Chris/WMWT you clearly missed something. Are you expecting the word "nickname" to be used? Look at the two sources I re-posted for LM2000 again please. Ranze ( talk) 09:31, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
WP:AGF is becoming difficult when you engage in misleading wordplay like this. Review the following sentence:
Is it a nod to her finishing move? Sure, but it's still referring to Charlotte as being the queen. Having your nickname incorporated into one of your moves is common enough. Edge (wrestler) has the "Edgecution" for example.
Your saying "shortly followed by" is misleading because while "to the" is short, "-ing down to her. Sasha might be the Boss but she is" isn't particularly short. Plus that's "Bowing" not "Bow".
Also considering this:
Even if this is still a nod to Charlotte's move name, her move is not named "the queen", so Sasha is not bowing to Charlotte's finisher, she's bowing to Charlotte, aka "The Queen".
Where is "bow" in these four?
CHARLOTTE: Honestly, people ask all the time if we feel pressure to deliver, or do we feel pressure from people putting us in these positions. But I don't think any of us feel the pressure, just because we're able to lean on each other. I don't know how to explain it; you all know what I mean? Watch: .. The Queen vs. The Boss
Charlotte appears to have hurt her ankle. Charlotte kips up and she gets the rollup and three count while Ric distracts Becky.
Brie's Divas Championship Match with Charlotte at WWE Fastlane has taken on new meaning .. Charlotte was free to build momentum with a second victory over Alicia Fox
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I don't see "bow" in these. Just "The Queen" consistently being used to refer to Charlotte from May 2015 to July 2016. Ranze ( talk) 10:22, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
Here's some more:
Bring Queen Charlotte Back .. On NXT, Charlotte was the Queen .. The only way to fix this issue is to bring Queen Charlotte back.
Watch: The Queen and The Boss clash in title classic
The WWE Women's Championship is now fit for A QUEEN!
See, The Queen doesn't need ANYBODY!
The Queen will RECLAIM her throne TONIGHT at WWE SummerSlam...
Is all this going to be dismissed too? Ranze ( talk) 10:51, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
@ Crash Underride: you are disrupting the process of community discussion by mischaracterizing the sources I'm giving you. This is not an appropiate place to make personal attacks on me. Cameron's full name and Dean Ambrose's nicknames have nothing to do with Charlotte (wrestler). You can bring that up on the wikiproject or complain about it to admins or something.
I have provided proper sources, and those who have opted to honestly review them like LM2000 have acknowledged this even if still on the fence as to whether we agree on their importance. If you invite any third parties to come evaluate these sources they will plainly see that every source I've introduced is related to the association between Charlotte and "The Queen". Some indirectly (the ones referencing the "Bown Down to the Queen" move) and some directly (Charlotte being called "The Queen").
I have never lied here, and if you get that impression, you may not understand the context in which I have presented some of the sources, such as the indirect-support 'bown down' couple. Ranze ( talk) 01:47, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
I have introduced a couple template:unreliable source? templates to the date ranges given here and I don't think they should be removed until we have updated out sources. We presently do have sources but they do not support all the numbers given.
The side template says (m. 2010; div. 2012) for Johnson and (m. 2013; div. 2015) for Latimer. Both are probably true. I assume good faith and whoever added them probably did get them from a reliable source but just didn't include it.
The sources we actually include which mention the marriage are these:
Charlotte was married to Riki Johnson. The couple got married in North Carolina last May 2010 .. Right now, she is still currently married to Thomas Raymond Latimer
That divorce was finalized in the State of Florida on 10/29.
The first source affirms the month/year she married Johnson but does not mention what year they divorced. We still need a source to affirm that they divorced in 2012.
The second and first source affirms that she was presently married to Latimer during the time of each article's publication (October 2014 and July 2015) but neither mentions when they got married, we still need a source affirming that 2013 was the year they were married.
The third source affirms the date that she and Latimer were divorced (October 2015) but nothing about when the marriage began, or when she and Johnson divorced.
So basically, we need sources to support the "divorced Johnson 2012" and the "married Latimer 2013" stats. If this data is presently available in a reference currently here then we need to alias it and cite it. Only the "married Johnson 2010" and "divorced Latimer 2015" stats are supported right now by the cites.
Ranze (
talk) 19:50, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
Update: @ Dalton Imperial: was right about the Orange Country Compttroller, I just added that to support the 2013 marriage to Latimer, now the only source missing is the 2012 divorce date to Johnson. Perhaps if we could find out what state it happened in we could find a similar Comptroller log for it? Ranze ( talk) 20:00, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
If I am reading these correctly all that is missing is the divorce from Johnson. So if we were to break everything down she could have divorced him anytime between 2010 and 2013. Am I correct in assuming that it is not known where they were living when married, alot of divorces can be found in court records if we knew what state. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" ( talk) 22:00, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved to Charlotte Flair. Consensus was that recent sources and WWE events use the new name. It's also a natural disambiguator. -- Patar knight - chat/ contributions 17:29, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
Charlotte (wrestler) → Charlotte Flair – As with Natalya Neidhart, WP:NATDAB would have applied anyway, but should be moved per WP:NAMECHANGES as this is what she is being billed as now. [1] LM2000 ( talk) 20:45, 29 October 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. Bradv 03:18, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
*Oppose - She's known as Charlotte atm so we should stick with it until sources and the media state otherwise. –
Davey2010
Talk 00:18, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
SUPPORT It was on numerous sites that she was adding Flair to her name. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 08:42, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
WWE.com is a main source, Wikipedia is founded on sources. The fact there are so many solid sources and this is still going on is insane. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 02:05, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
Now it doesn't exist outside of badly written wwe.com pieces, From today: PWinsider, from yesterday: Wrestling Observer, from Tuesday: PWinsider Wrestleview. LM2000 ( talk) 17:13, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
Mick Foley just called her CHARLOTTE FLAIR on Monday Night RAW at 8:05pm, sooooo now it's been on several different reliable sites and RAW. Clearly they are not giving up on it. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 02:19, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
On being billed as Charlotte Flair now instead of Charlotte: Obviously we haven’t shied away from being my dad’s daughter, but I think it was the company’s way of saying she can do it and she can own it. And that’s pretty cool. It’s weird to have two names now. It makes for a longer [autograph] signing. My hand’s cramping more. [laughs] But I think it was cool the company was putting that much thought into my growth and my character. It really does make a difference.
It was the name of her somersault cutter on from her NXT debut and at least until she won the NXT Women's Championship at NXT Takeover. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grizzexploder ( talk • contribs) 09:40, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
It states in the article that Charlotte hasn't lost any matches on pay per views, however, she lost at Battleground 2016. So that information is inaccurate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:587:2:F27E:D8AE:CC20:17B6:8ED7 ( talk) 07:11, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
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Change her surname from Fleihr to Flair which is her fathers name that was also given to her 95.87.30.124 ( talk) 13:22, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
Is Charlotte a heel or not? Because after her supposed heel turn at Survivor Series, she beat down The IIconics. -- CEDJunior ( talk) 04:40, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
Mention her current partner . Rk73520 ( talk) 13:37, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Partner Andrade Cien almas Rk73520 ( talk) 13:40, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Trainers are already mentioned above on the list, no need to specifically name them on the main body, no other wrestlers have names of their trainers listed on the main body, just named on the list, so changed that, its unnecessary details. Just focus on her main debut on 2012-2014 early career section. Dilbaggg ( talk) 13:59, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
According to WWE.com, Charlotte is still a RAW Superstar even though she holds an NXT Title. Please change her back to RAW until WWE confirms that brand change. https://www.wwe.com/superstars/charlotte-flair — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.236.80.152 ( talk) 13:01, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
Accordting WP:IMGCONTENT "The purpose of an image is to increase readers' understanding of the article's subject matter, usually by directly depicting people, things, activities, and concepts described in the article. The relevant aspect of the image should be clear and central. Guidance for selecting images when multiple potential images are available can be found at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Images, keeping in mind that Wikipedia desires freely licensed images over non-free ones when they otherwise serve the same educational purpose." I attempted to post a career image and it was reverted by 2 other editors user:PedigreeWWEFigz87V2 and user:Megppg99. I am going to post it one more time. Please do not revert, unless you dissuss here first and provide a better reason than above. Carl Carter X ( talk) 00:55, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
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Add Megan Thompson to Relatives, Megan Thompson is Charlotte's sister, Ric Flair is their father, Megan Thompson is the wife of Conrad Thompson who is Charlotte's Brother-In-Law 172.112.203.42 ( talk) 10:21, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
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Her debut was July 7th 2013 not July 7th 2012
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Please change the photo. There are far more appealing and accurate photos of what Charlotte looks like. The portrait of her currently used results in people commenting negatively on her looks and making fun of her. It is also 4 years old. 99.144.168.49 ( talk) 06:43, 11 May 2023 (UTC)