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Everything else matches up, but this paragraph:
directly contradicts this section on the official Chenonceau website:
What's the origin of the Daniel Wilson story? Is there other evidence one way or the other who owned it between Dupin and Menier?
Thanks~ -- Catherine | talk 07:09, 27 Jun 2004 (UTC)
"during the Second War it was a means of escaping from the Nazi occupied Vichy zone on one side of the River Cher to the free zone on the opposite bank."
This confuses me. Both parts of France were "occupied" in one sense by the Germans in WW2, though I thought troops were really only stationed in the northern and Atlantic seaboards. If someone were crossing from Vichy to occupied France, wouldn't they be going into a less free zone?
Anon user,
Thanks for the contribution to Château de Chenonceau, and the hard work you have put into formatting and linking it; however, the information appears to be copied from http://www.marie-stuart.co.uk/France/Chenonceau.htm . If you are the original author and copyright-holder of this material, and are willing to license it under the GNU Free Documentation License (see Wikipedia:Copyrights for details), then we can use it. Otherwise, I'm afraid it will have to be deleted, as we can not use material that is copyrighted by others in our free encyclopedia. Please respond so we can clear this up. Thank you! — Catherine\ talk 17:19, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
Before you delete anything, could you please wait a little while for me to clear the copyright situation as quickly as possible. Thank you
edit : Copyright issue has been solved since the text added here comes directly from the visit guide that anybody can buy at the castle . the work that has been done here is under direct supervision from the owners and managers of chenonceau. if you have any question please feel free to email at : info@chenonceau.com
The coordinates need the following fixes:
47.3250° N 1.0706° E 24.127.198.110 ( talk) 07:45, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
The image labeled as "The Gallery" is not a picture from the actual Gallery of the Château de Chenonceau. An actual representation of the gallery's current state can be seen on the Château's official website.
-- Keith Goodwin ( talk) 17:59, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
There is a bit of information that confuses me.
A part of the section of the Chapelle it says: 'Inscriptions were left upon the walls of the chapel by Mary, Queen of Scots' Scottish guards: on the right, "Man's anger does not accomplish God's Justice" (dated 1543) and "Do not let yourself be won over by Evil" (dated 1546).'
The two dates 1543 and 1546 are confirmed even in the French version of Château de Chenonceau, and also the small written guide given to tourists in the castle contains the same dates.
But according to the article about Mary, Queen of Scots the events detailed there are in some contradiction with these 2 dates.
- Mary was born on 8 December 1542, thus, in 1543 she could not be more than 1 year old. It sounds strange that in the middle ages even a queen starts a long journey with a so young kid if not absolute necessity.
- According to the text 'When French ships were spotted on the Scottish coast in July, it was felt they were a threat to Mary, and she moved with her mother to Stirling Castle which was considered safer. On 9 September 1543 Mary was crowned Queen of Scots in the chapel at this castle.' It also appears to be in contradiction with 1543. It does not look like her mother, Mary of Guise wanted to bring her to France.
- Based on this part 'With her marriage agreement in place, five-year-old Mary was sent to France to spend the next thirteen years at the French court, mainly at Amboise, near Tours.' it seems that Mary did not leave Scotland until 1547. So it questions the other date of 1546.
- Is it possible that Mary's Scottish guards were in Chenonceau without Mary? It is from a logical point of view, but it sounds weird.
I don't know how this mystery could be solved...or have I got something wrong ?
Balage75 ( talk) 23:41, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
I had the pleasure of visiting Chenonceau today. The entire "Inside the Chateau" section of this article is reprinted verbatim from the pamphlet that is given to visitors at the entrance. Just a heads up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.97.218.117 ( talk) 19:20, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Hi, I noticed the summary of your edit. Do you have more information on that brochure? Nev1 ( talk) 20:13, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
I have a hard copy of it but I just checked the chateau's website and they don't have the same text on there. The chateau is privately owned so the brochure is very dense and informative but its text obviously has no place on the wiki for the building.
Says here on the brochure that is was produced by Apyrenne Communication. The photos are copyrighted from 2011. It is highly unlikely that the text is taken from the wiki as each room on this page is ordered in the exact order of the walking tour.
Unfortunately, I've not had a reply so I think we should play it safe and assume we have a copyright violation on our hands. At the moment I haven't deleted the page history because policy states "Blatant copyright violations that can be redacted without removing attribution to non-infringing contributors. If redacting a revision would remove any contributor's attribution, this criterion cannot be used." For the most part the text, has changed very little since 2005, but there have been more than 500 edits since then so it may be prudent to leave it in place. Nev1 ( talk) 19:04, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
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Everything else matches up, but this paragraph:
directly contradicts this section on the official Chenonceau website:
What's the origin of the Daniel Wilson story? Is there other evidence one way or the other who owned it between Dupin and Menier?
Thanks~ -- Catherine | talk 07:09, 27 Jun 2004 (UTC)
"during the Second War it was a means of escaping from the Nazi occupied Vichy zone on one side of the River Cher to the free zone on the opposite bank."
This confuses me. Both parts of France were "occupied" in one sense by the Germans in WW2, though I thought troops were really only stationed in the northern and Atlantic seaboards. If someone were crossing from Vichy to occupied France, wouldn't they be going into a less free zone?
Anon user,
Thanks for the contribution to Château de Chenonceau, and the hard work you have put into formatting and linking it; however, the information appears to be copied from http://www.marie-stuart.co.uk/France/Chenonceau.htm . If you are the original author and copyright-holder of this material, and are willing to license it under the GNU Free Documentation License (see Wikipedia:Copyrights for details), then we can use it. Otherwise, I'm afraid it will have to be deleted, as we can not use material that is copyrighted by others in our free encyclopedia. Please respond so we can clear this up. Thank you! — Catherine\ talk 17:19, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
Before you delete anything, could you please wait a little while for me to clear the copyright situation as quickly as possible. Thank you
edit : Copyright issue has been solved since the text added here comes directly from the visit guide that anybody can buy at the castle . the work that has been done here is under direct supervision from the owners and managers of chenonceau. if you have any question please feel free to email at : info@chenonceau.com
The coordinates need the following fixes:
47.3250° N 1.0706° E 24.127.198.110 ( talk) 07:45, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
The image labeled as "The Gallery" is not a picture from the actual Gallery of the Château de Chenonceau. An actual representation of the gallery's current state can be seen on the Château's official website.
-- Keith Goodwin ( talk) 17:59, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
There is a bit of information that confuses me.
A part of the section of the Chapelle it says: 'Inscriptions were left upon the walls of the chapel by Mary, Queen of Scots' Scottish guards: on the right, "Man's anger does not accomplish God's Justice" (dated 1543) and "Do not let yourself be won over by Evil" (dated 1546).'
The two dates 1543 and 1546 are confirmed even in the French version of Château de Chenonceau, and also the small written guide given to tourists in the castle contains the same dates.
But according to the article about Mary, Queen of Scots the events detailed there are in some contradiction with these 2 dates.
- Mary was born on 8 December 1542, thus, in 1543 she could not be more than 1 year old. It sounds strange that in the middle ages even a queen starts a long journey with a so young kid if not absolute necessity.
- According to the text 'When French ships were spotted on the Scottish coast in July, it was felt they were a threat to Mary, and she moved with her mother to Stirling Castle which was considered safer. On 9 September 1543 Mary was crowned Queen of Scots in the chapel at this castle.' It also appears to be in contradiction with 1543. It does not look like her mother, Mary of Guise wanted to bring her to France.
- Based on this part 'With her marriage agreement in place, five-year-old Mary was sent to France to spend the next thirteen years at the French court, mainly at Amboise, near Tours.' it seems that Mary did not leave Scotland until 1547. So it questions the other date of 1546.
- Is it possible that Mary's Scottish guards were in Chenonceau without Mary? It is from a logical point of view, but it sounds weird.
I don't know how this mystery could be solved...or have I got something wrong ?
Balage75 ( talk) 23:41, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
I had the pleasure of visiting Chenonceau today. The entire "Inside the Chateau" section of this article is reprinted verbatim from the pamphlet that is given to visitors at the entrance. Just a heads up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.97.218.117 ( talk) 19:20, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Hi, I noticed the summary of your edit. Do you have more information on that brochure? Nev1 ( talk) 20:13, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
I have a hard copy of it but I just checked the chateau's website and they don't have the same text on there. The chateau is privately owned so the brochure is very dense and informative but its text obviously has no place on the wiki for the building.
Says here on the brochure that is was produced by Apyrenne Communication. The photos are copyrighted from 2011. It is highly unlikely that the text is taken from the wiki as each room on this page is ordered in the exact order of the walking tour.
Unfortunately, I've not had a reply so I think we should play it safe and assume we have a copyright violation on our hands. At the moment I haven't deleted the page history because policy states "Blatant copyright violations that can be redacted without removing attribution to non-infringing contributors. If redacting a revision would remove any contributor's attribution, this criterion cannot be used." For the most part the text, has changed very little since 2005, but there have been more than 500 edits since then so it may be prudent to leave it in place. Nev1 ( talk) 19:04, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
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