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I believe that "callaloo" and "calaloo" are merely spelling variations. The situation is somewhat complicated by the fact that the word can mean either the soup or the main leaf vegetable ingredient, and further complicated by the fact that the leaf vegetable ingredient can be either amaranth, taro, or malanga. Calaloo concentrates on the vegetable, while Callaloo concentrates on the soup, but I don't believe that the spelling difference makes this distinction. We already have quite decent articles on the leaf vegetables, so I think these two articles should be merged into a single soup article, at the more common spelling ("callaloo" according to Google), and any detailed leaf vegetable material be moved to the individual leaf vegetable articles. — Pekinensis 19:52, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
Done — Pekinensis 00:47, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for your contribution, but I must object. I worked rather hard to first rewrite the leaf vegetable material so that it made sense, and then move it to the appropriate articles, as discussed above. Why did you replace it, and why did you use the original, muddled form?
Point by point why I dislike the original version: Amaranth and taro are two radically different plants, whose only point in common is that they are used in this dish. Neither is particularly similar to spinach, aside from being a leaf vegetable. Neither is of Caribbean origin. The reintroduced text first claims it is talking about both amaranth and taro, but then gives a list of synonyms and nutrition data which apply only to amaranth (and are already covered more accurately and in greater detail in the amaranth article). Amaranth is the common name; if the scientific name "amaranthus" is to be used, it should be in italics. Taro is a much more widely used name for what is called here dasheen. If the names dasheen and eddo are appropriate because they are used locally (which is not clear, since evidently the plant is also locally called "callaloo") that should be noted explicitly, and the commonly understood name given as well. I also find the external links to be of low quality.
I realize that you made other, useful changes at the same time as reinserting the text, and those should be kept, but I have reverted your changes pending further discussion. I do not mean to be harsh; I believe that both of us want what's best for the article. Let us work together. Really.
— Pekinensis 15:57, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
Okay, I dereverted, and then took out the only parts I objected to, which were the plant section and the external links. Your rewrite of the dish section is a substantial improvement. Is this acceptable? — Pekinensis 16:08, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for your comments.
— Pekinensis 16:20, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
I have reworded some of the vegetable name material, and added photos, trying to clarify some of these questions. What do you think? — Pekinensis 18:53, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
I eat Callaloo. This article is about dasheen (taro). Callaloo is a different vegetable, completely unrelated to dasheen. Dasheen is a monocotyledon, callaloo is dicotyledon. — Preceding
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DGilmanjm (
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I'm confused by the picture of okra. Explain? -- Gruepig 06:59, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
Hello all...
An image used in the article, specifically Image:Amaranthus spinosus c.jpg, has a little bit of a licensing issue. The image was uploaded back when the rules around image uploading were less restrictive. It is presumed that the uploader was willing to license the picture under the GFDL license but was not clear in that regard. As such, the image, while not at risk of deletion, is likely not clearly licensed to allow for free use in any future use of this article. If anyone has an image that can replace this, or can go take one and upload it, it would be best.
You have your mission, take your camera and start clicking.-- Jordan 1972 ( talk) 21:51, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
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I believe that "callaloo" and "calaloo" are merely spelling variations. The situation is somewhat complicated by the fact that the word can mean either the soup or the main leaf vegetable ingredient, and further complicated by the fact that the leaf vegetable ingredient can be either amaranth, taro, or malanga. Calaloo concentrates on the vegetable, while Callaloo concentrates on the soup, but I don't believe that the spelling difference makes this distinction. We already have quite decent articles on the leaf vegetables, so I think these two articles should be merged into a single soup article, at the more common spelling ("callaloo" according to Google), and any detailed leaf vegetable material be moved to the individual leaf vegetable articles. — Pekinensis 19:52, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
Done — Pekinensis 00:47, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for your contribution, but I must object. I worked rather hard to first rewrite the leaf vegetable material so that it made sense, and then move it to the appropriate articles, as discussed above. Why did you replace it, and why did you use the original, muddled form?
Point by point why I dislike the original version: Amaranth and taro are two radically different plants, whose only point in common is that they are used in this dish. Neither is particularly similar to spinach, aside from being a leaf vegetable. Neither is of Caribbean origin. The reintroduced text first claims it is talking about both amaranth and taro, but then gives a list of synonyms and nutrition data which apply only to amaranth (and are already covered more accurately and in greater detail in the amaranth article). Amaranth is the common name; if the scientific name "amaranthus" is to be used, it should be in italics. Taro is a much more widely used name for what is called here dasheen. If the names dasheen and eddo are appropriate because they are used locally (which is not clear, since evidently the plant is also locally called "callaloo") that should be noted explicitly, and the commonly understood name given as well. I also find the external links to be of low quality.
I realize that you made other, useful changes at the same time as reinserting the text, and those should be kept, but I have reverted your changes pending further discussion. I do not mean to be harsh; I believe that both of us want what's best for the article. Let us work together. Really.
— Pekinensis 15:57, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
Okay, I dereverted, and then took out the only parts I objected to, which were the plant section and the external links. Your rewrite of the dish section is a substantial improvement. Is this acceptable? — Pekinensis 16:08, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for your comments.
— Pekinensis 16:20, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
I have reworded some of the vegetable name material, and added photos, trying to clarify some of these questions. What do you think? — Pekinensis 18:53, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
I eat Callaloo. This article is about dasheen (taro). Callaloo is a different vegetable, completely unrelated to dasheen. Dasheen is a monocotyledon, callaloo is dicotyledon. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
DGilmanjm (
talk •
contribs) 19:29, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
I'm confused by the picture of okra. Explain? -- Gruepig 06:59, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
Hello all...
An image used in the article, specifically Image:Amaranthus spinosus c.jpg, has a little bit of a licensing issue. The image was uploaded back when the rules around image uploading were less restrictive. It is presumed that the uploader was willing to license the picture under the GFDL license but was not clear in that regard. As such, the image, while not at risk of deletion, is likely not clearly licensed to allow for free use in any future use of this article. If anyone has an image that can replace this, or can go take one and upload it, it would be best.
You have your mission, take your camera and start clicking.-- Jordan 1972 ( talk) 21:51, 29 September 2008 (UTC)