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The primary source http://www.channel4.com/info/press/programme-information/black-mirror/ credits the co-author as "Kanak Huq", so evidently that is her chosen name as a writer. It might be appropriate to include her more well known name in parentheses? -- Ukslim ( talk) 13:35, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
We can revisit this when episode 2 is broadcast; the version of her name to use is the one that appears in the on-screen credits. -- Ukslim ( talk) 13:09, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
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In the Reception section, why is it entirely focused on China? Why isn't there a single mention of UK reviews or response? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.171.118.183 ( talk) 23:35, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
http://forgetoday.com/fuse/screen/black-mirror-season-2-episode-2-white-bear/ http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/436559/20130218/black-mirror-season-2-episode-review-white.htm http://www.sfx.co.uk/2013/02/18/black-mirror-2-02-white-bear-review/ http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2013/02/18/review-of-black-mirror-white-bear/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/tv-and-radio-reviews/9878463/Black-Mirror-White-Bear-Channel-4-review.html
Regards, Anameofmyveryown ( talk) 01:26, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
Black mirrors are mystical devices used in Scrying distant locations or the future. This is no doubt the origin or the series title, since we explore potential futures in the show, whatever Charlie Brooker may or not have said. I posted a comment to that effect which was removed. Please re-add. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wordforge ( talk • contribs) 23:56, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
Why is the reception only about China? This is irrelevant, and in fact should be deleted. reception in the UK (the origin of the series), in the US (major/leading/main market) or international is acceptable. focusing on china isn't appropriate. I know this is already noted, but it didn't seems to get any attention. Itaylv ( talk) 14:34, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
Isn't the house the couple move into at the beginning the house where Ash grew up, which has been left vacant by the death of his mother? It's not empty when they move in. And when Martha goes up to the loft after Ash dies, isn't it in order to look at the photos that Ash describes his mother having put there after his brother and father died?
Didn't put this straight in the article in case it's wrong, but if it's right I think it should be in. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.125.91.228 ( talk) 19:26, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
The episodes need to be taken out of the equation as they take up too much space.
How about:
# | Title | Cast | Writer | Director | Broadcast Date | Viewers (millions) [1] |
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1 | The National Anthem | Rory Kinnear and Lindsay Duncan, with Donald Sumpter, Tom Goodman-Hill, Anna Wilson-Jones & Lydia Wilson | Charlie Brooker | Otto Bathurst | 4 December 2011 | 2.07 |
Plot The opening programme to the series is a 44 minute long political thriller in which fictional Prime Minister Michael Callow ( Rory Kinnear) faces a huge and shocking dilemma when (fictional) Princess Susannah, Duchess of Beaumont ( Lydia Wilson), a much-loved member of the Royal Family, is kidnapped. For her safe return, the Prime Minister must have sexual intercourse with a pig on national television. [2] Callow adamantly opposes the demand and does all possible to catch the kidnapper before the deadline. Callow also demands that the news not reach the public, but the ransom video was posted on YouTube and, despite having only been up for nine minutes, has already been viewed and downloaded by many members of the British public. Although the UK's media initially agrees not to report the story it soon reaches foreign news networks, which immediately begin reporting. After this, the UK media follow suit. When the video was first received by the British government, one of the PM's aides, Alex Cairns ( Lindsay Duncan) began faking footage to broadcast. The kidnapper discovers the ploy and sends Princess Susannah's finger to a UK news station as a response. The story is outed and public opinion turns sharply against Callow. This drives Callow to order an immediate rescue operation on the building where they believe Susannah is being held, forgoing the recommended observation period. The building is revealed to be a decoy and a reporter is injured during the operation. Callow loses even more support. After being informed that neither he nor his family will have protection from repercussions if he refuses, Callow is forced to perform the indecent act in front of a live global audience who are quickly disgusted by the sight but still don't turn off their screens. The princess is discovered unharmed in the streets, the finger having belonged to the kidnapper. It is revealed that she was released before the deadline, but went unnoticed as everyone was distracted by the broadcast. It emerges that the events were planned by Turner Prize winner Carlton Bloom, who intended to make an artistic point by showing that events of significance had slipped under the noses of the public and the government as they were "elsewhere, watching screens" and not paying attention to the real world. Bloom commits suicide as the broadcast airs, and it is decided that the early release will not be revealed to anyone including Callow. A year after the broadcast, Callow's political image has remained intact and he has gained greater public approval due to his willingness to sacrifice his dignity. Princess Susannah has recovered from the kidnapping and is expecting a child, while the public at large knows of Bloom's organising of the affair. While Callow's reputation has been raised in the eyes of the public, it is implied that his marriage and relationship with his wife ( Anna Wilson-Jones) has not survived the ordeal. |
Or any other options? Chaosdruid ( talk) 03:28, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
As prep, I've ported the contents of the Episodes section to List of Black Mirror episodes, and added a main tag to that section of this article. However, the List of article and the episode section here are basically the same, so it'd be great if someone could set about cutting down the section on this article, and I'll look at fleshing of the List of one. drewmunn talk 11:22, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
Episode 2 of season 1, "Fifteen Million Merits", is simply omitted entirely in DVD and electronic sales of the series in Australia. Is there some contriversy or legal trouble that should be reported in relation to this? Mark Whybird ( talk) 11:41, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Move. We have clear consensus that the TV series is the primary topic. Per comments below, Black mirror will redirect to Black Mirror, and the dab page will move to Black Mirror (disambiguation) considering that most ambiguous topics are capitalized. Cúchullain t/ c 18:27, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
– The TV series is undoubtedly the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, receiving 920,000+ views in the past 120 days. Compared with the video game with 7,400, the song receiving 1,500, and the novel with 575. The TV series is clearly the primary topic with respect to usage and long-term significance of the title. Wikipedical ( talk) 17:52, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
I don't understand why the sentence about him is in accolades. Not saying delete it but Stephen King is not an award. He may not technically be a "critic" but he is respected enough that Critical reception is where he belongs. I am going to be BOLD move it. Feel free to revert but please discuss.—አቤል ዳዊት ? (Janweh64) ( talk) 00:50, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
Just wondering if there is any specific reason the accolades are formatted like that. It's just not a way I've ever seen them put together. -- QueerFilmNerd ( talk) 06:19, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
As this is a British Programme, 'series' should be used. It would be nice if Americans could respect other cultures. Not everything needs to be Americanised.
There's clearly an anti-British thing going on here. I can't see why British English shouldn't be used for a British programme. American English isn't correct by default.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:44CB:8F00:D4BE:D385:BC78:D6DF ( talk) 00:04, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
or, said in different manner, could it be added to the Category:Dystopian television series page?
I am having a discussion here with Radiphus about the length of Black Mirror episodes' plot summaries in episode articles such as The National Anthem (Black Mirror). I believe that since Black Mirror is an anthology series so far from what most serialised television is like, the guideline WP:FILMPLOT applies – Black Mirror episodes are like short standalone films (no shared characters between episodes; nominated for some awards in television movie categories), so their plot sections should be subject to the 400–700 word guideline for films. In contrast, Radiphus has opined that the episodes should follow WP:TVPLOT (noting that most episodes are shorter than feature films), and be subject to a 400 word upper limit, and therefore tagged most episode pages with {{ Long plot}}. Which, if either, guideline is appropriate? — Bilorv (talk) (c) (e) 10:49, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
Should we fork the "Accolades" section out to List of awards and nominations received by Black Mirror? I've redirect to page to here for now. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 04:57, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
Fair enough. How does this look? — Bilorv (c) (talk) 02:44, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
Is there information on planning the next series? Тибериум ( talk) 10:13, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
Editors familiar with the featured article process may be interested in the nomination of Black Mirror episode " San Junipero", which can be found here. Thanks! — Bilorv (c) (talk) 21:29, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
[1] At said event she clearly seemed to be under confidentiality, but THR seems to want to take it as fact. Should we hold off until more firm confirmation? -- Masem ( t) 20:04, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
§ Critical response mentions Rotten Tomatoes scores for the seasons. Given that episodes are standalone, perhaps the table below would be a welcome addition at the end of that section? -- 77.173.90.33 ( talk) 13:01, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
S01E01 | S01E02 | S01E03 | S02E01 | S02E02 | S02E03 | S02E04 | Xmas | S03E01 | S03E02 | S03E03 | S03E04 | S03E05 | S03E06 | S04E01 | S04E02 | S04E03 | S04E04 | S04E05 | S04E06 | Bander | S05E01 | S05E02 | S05E03 | |
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RT score | 100% (9/10) | 100% (9.5/10) | 88% (7/10) | 92% (8.25/10) | 86% (8.2/10) | 50% (6/10) | N/A | 93% (8.88/10) | 95% (7.33/10) | 90% (6.8/10) | 64% (8.53/10) | 91% (8.04/10) | 55% (7.4/10) | 78% (8.04/10) | 94% (9.28/10) | 75% (7.43/10) | 53% (6.39/10) | 90% (8.89/10) | 67% (6.87/10) | 73% (6.54/10) | 72% (7.44/10) | 80% (7.37/10) | 61% (7.07/10) | 40% (4.87/10) |
# Reviews | 17 | 12 | 16 | 12 | 14 | 16 | N/A | 15 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 22 | 20 | 18 | 35 | 20 | 17 | 21 | 24 | 22 | 68 | 20 | 18 | 20 |
Ref. | [1] | [2] | [3] | [4] | [5] | [6] | [7] | [8] | [9] | [10] | [11] | [12] | [13] | [14] | [15] | [16] | [17] | [18] | [19] | [20] | [21] | [22] | [23] | [24] |
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The article currently makes it sound like S5 was trashed by the critics:
Reviews of the fifth season have been less favorable than those of previous seasons. "Season five is a mess, and nothing about it suggests that Black Mirror retains its original, unnerving insight into the ever-blurring borders between the digital and the human", wrote Kathryn VanArendonk at Vulture.
This is pretty unbalanced. The reviews are down from previous seasons, but we're talking about positive (84 on RT) to mostly positive (64 on RT); picking the worst review available to call it "a mess" is hardly reasonable. The RT consensus might be better, something like this:
Reviews of the fifth season have been less favorable than those of previous seasons, although still generally positive. Rotten Tomatoes' critical consensus is: "Though Black Mirror's abbreviated fifth season never quite reaches the heights (or surprises) of previous installments, it remains one of TVs strangest philosophical offerings -- for better or worse."
But does S5 even need its own paragraph in Critical Response? S3 and S4 aren't even mentioned again after giving their scores in the first paragraph. And S5 is listed in that first paragraph; is there a reason that isn't sufficient? I don't think there's any good reason S5 is more significant than S3 or S4; it just feels that way because it just came out. It may be worth rewriting the whole section to not focus so much on S1, S2, and the special episodes. But, failing that, I think the simplest thing is to treat S5 the same as S3 and S4 and not try to synthesize an opinion at all. -- 157.131.246.136 ( talk) 17:58, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
where'd the DETAILS for the webisodes go?! used to have a CHART here with names, plot summaries, and release dates! (at least for the POLISH ones...)
this was later (i think) replaced by a link to the "list of..." page, which i guess briefly housed said chart. i say "briefly", b/c when i checked, the link was 404. bottom line, NEITHER article had the chart anymore.
and now the link is gone anyways! what's the deal?! we're going BACKWARDS -- we've gone from having 4 of the 7 to now having ZERO of the seven!!
can someone pls put the polish ones BACK...and then add the SPANISH?? one or the other of these articles (i vote for the "list of..." one) NEEDS to have the details for these 7 videos! 173.9.95.217 ( talk) 22:27, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
(Note: a couple of messages by the IP editor have been removed, as explained on their talk page ( click here). Leaving this note here just in case they come back to this page but don't see the notification for their talk page.) — Bilorv (he/him) (talk) 23:06, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
The nomination of many fair use images on Black Mirror episodes for deletion at today's Files for discussion will likely be of interest to anyone following this page. Thanks! — Bilorv ( talk) 07:19, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
I was asked to post here. I think that FFD is a centralized discussion space and since I made all of the nominations on the same day, it seems very straightforward to discuss them on the page linked above. If anything, discussion here will make for less centralized discussion. Happy to provide my feedback, etc. but I think that two threads is a recipe for disaster. As pointed out in my FFD nominations and noted by Masem above, the problem is basically the same every time: someone took a more-or-less random screen cap that doesn't actually display any visual information that cannot be conveyed in text (e.g. a person standing in a street), and wrote that the rationale for this image is "key moment in episode". That doesn't fly. Episodes that have unique aesthetics or visual effects or some kind of element that needs a photo to adequately explain it I didn't nominate and would pass NFCC. Additionally, if there are some images that are somehow special and really need consideration or discussion, the FFD can be extended or someone could ask for deletion review. I've nominated several hundred images at FFD (probably over a thousand) and close to 99% have been deleted, usually for the exact same rationale. ― Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 19:41, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Featured and good topic questions § Black Mirror. — Bilorv ( talk) 18:42, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
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Reviewer: The Rambling Man ( talk · contribs) 23:12, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
Work calls, up to "Production". The Rambling Man ( Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 12:40, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
That's all I have. Very nice work. The Rambling Man ( Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 19:37, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
Distributor listed as Endemol Shine UK, but as far as I can tell it is a production company.
EDIT Distributor was probably Endemol B.V., (merged into Endemol Shine Group in 2015)?
Also, the article talks about a company called 'Endemol', but there are several companies spread over various regions to which Endemol could refer. More specificity would be good. Jonpatterns ( talk) 12:53, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
The short wording and inclusion of only one reception creates the premise of a generally well received season. This is factually not the case. The season has a score of 44 % audience ratings at rotten tomatoes: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/black_mirror/s06/reviews?type=user&intcmp=rt-scorecard_audience-score-reviews
There are also numerous articles, which proof the diverse Fan reactions:
https://junkee.com/black-mirror-season-6-review-channel-4-netflix/352297
https://news.yahoo.com/fans-slamming-season-black-mirror-084150034.html?guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmRlLw&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAALM0l00QbxybxKA5ITLKR64hISGKEkcwUrSel62QYS8MPMBVpcNqNDapJPP9jSOmtL_ZQ71F38mLkLN8cnB8ibd4s-mFfBz1BGT20VzmSt-gaL9dt2pVeDGNHSU5N6Nc0fWEm6WrYIoj1--9mILIEgRGiHstKyMOUWgRzv-7OejR Juicy Steak ( talk) 17:44, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
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The primary source http://www.channel4.com/info/press/programme-information/black-mirror/ credits the co-author as "Kanak Huq", so evidently that is her chosen name as a writer. It might be appropriate to include her more well known name in parentheses? -- Ukslim ( talk) 13:35, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
We can revisit this when episode 2 is broadcast; the version of her name to use is the one that appears in the on-screen credits. -- Ukslim ( talk) 13:09, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
I have asked NPrice to comment on his reasons for suspecting a copyright violation. If I don't see anything within a week or so (from him or someone else), I'll remove the banner. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ukslim ( talk • contribs) 11:23, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
In the Reception section, why is it entirely focused on China? Why isn't there a single mention of UK reviews or response? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.171.118.183 ( talk) 23:35, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
http://forgetoday.com/fuse/screen/black-mirror-season-2-episode-2-white-bear/ http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/436559/20130218/black-mirror-season-2-episode-review-white.htm http://www.sfx.co.uk/2013/02/18/black-mirror-2-02-white-bear-review/ http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2013/02/18/review-of-black-mirror-white-bear/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/tv-and-radio-reviews/9878463/Black-Mirror-White-Bear-Channel-4-review.html
Regards, Anameofmyveryown ( talk) 01:26, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
Black mirrors are mystical devices used in Scrying distant locations or the future. This is no doubt the origin or the series title, since we explore potential futures in the show, whatever Charlie Brooker may or not have said. I posted a comment to that effect which was removed. Please re-add. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wordforge ( talk • contribs) 23:56, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
Why is the reception only about China? This is irrelevant, and in fact should be deleted. reception in the UK (the origin of the series), in the US (major/leading/main market) or international is acceptable. focusing on china isn't appropriate. I know this is already noted, but it didn't seems to get any attention. Itaylv ( talk) 14:34, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
Isn't the house the couple move into at the beginning the house where Ash grew up, which has been left vacant by the death of his mother? It's not empty when they move in. And when Martha goes up to the loft after Ash dies, isn't it in order to look at the photos that Ash describes his mother having put there after his brother and father died?
Didn't put this straight in the article in case it's wrong, but if it's right I think it should be in. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.125.91.228 ( talk) 19:26, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
The episodes need to be taken out of the equation as they take up too much space.
How about:
# | Title | Cast | Writer | Director | Broadcast Date | Viewers (millions) [1] |
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1 | The National Anthem | Rory Kinnear and Lindsay Duncan, with Donald Sumpter, Tom Goodman-Hill, Anna Wilson-Jones & Lydia Wilson | Charlie Brooker | Otto Bathurst | 4 December 2011 | 2.07 |
Plot The opening programme to the series is a 44 minute long political thriller in which fictional Prime Minister Michael Callow ( Rory Kinnear) faces a huge and shocking dilemma when (fictional) Princess Susannah, Duchess of Beaumont ( Lydia Wilson), a much-loved member of the Royal Family, is kidnapped. For her safe return, the Prime Minister must have sexual intercourse with a pig on national television. [2] Callow adamantly opposes the demand and does all possible to catch the kidnapper before the deadline. Callow also demands that the news not reach the public, but the ransom video was posted on YouTube and, despite having only been up for nine minutes, has already been viewed and downloaded by many members of the British public. Although the UK's media initially agrees not to report the story it soon reaches foreign news networks, which immediately begin reporting. After this, the UK media follow suit. When the video was first received by the British government, one of the PM's aides, Alex Cairns ( Lindsay Duncan) began faking footage to broadcast. The kidnapper discovers the ploy and sends Princess Susannah's finger to a UK news station as a response. The story is outed and public opinion turns sharply against Callow. This drives Callow to order an immediate rescue operation on the building where they believe Susannah is being held, forgoing the recommended observation period. The building is revealed to be a decoy and a reporter is injured during the operation. Callow loses even more support. After being informed that neither he nor his family will have protection from repercussions if he refuses, Callow is forced to perform the indecent act in front of a live global audience who are quickly disgusted by the sight but still don't turn off their screens. The princess is discovered unharmed in the streets, the finger having belonged to the kidnapper. It is revealed that she was released before the deadline, but went unnoticed as everyone was distracted by the broadcast. It emerges that the events were planned by Turner Prize winner Carlton Bloom, who intended to make an artistic point by showing that events of significance had slipped under the noses of the public and the government as they were "elsewhere, watching screens" and not paying attention to the real world. Bloom commits suicide as the broadcast airs, and it is decided that the early release will not be revealed to anyone including Callow. A year after the broadcast, Callow's political image has remained intact and he has gained greater public approval due to his willingness to sacrifice his dignity. Princess Susannah has recovered from the kidnapping and is expecting a child, while the public at large knows of Bloom's organising of the affair. While Callow's reputation has been raised in the eyes of the public, it is implied that his marriage and relationship with his wife ( Anna Wilson-Jones) has not survived the ordeal. |
Or any other options? Chaosdruid ( talk) 03:28, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
As prep, I've ported the contents of the Episodes section to List of Black Mirror episodes, and added a main tag to that section of this article. However, the List of article and the episode section here are basically the same, so it'd be great if someone could set about cutting down the section on this article, and I'll look at fleshing of the List of one. drewmunn talk 11:22, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
Episode 2 of season 1, "Fifteen Million Merits", is simply omitted entirely in DVD and electronic sales of the series in Australia. Is there some contriversy or legal trouble that should be reported in relation to this? Mark Whybird ( talk) 11:41, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Move. We have clear consensus that the TV series is the primary topic. Per comments below, Black mirror will redirect to Black Mirror, and the dab page will move to Black Mirror (disambiguation) considering that most ambiguous topics are capitalized. Cúchullain t/ c 18:27, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
– The TV series is undoubtedly the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, receiving 920,000+ views in the past 120 days. Compared with the video game with 7,400, the song receiving 1,500, and the novel with 575. The TV series is clearly the primary topic with respect to usage and long-term significance of the title. Wikipedical ( talk) 17:52, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
I don't understand why the sentence about him is in accolades. Not saying delete it but Stephen King is not an award. He may not technically be a "critic" but he is respected enough that Critical reception is where he belongs. I am going to be BOLD move it. Feel free to revert but please discuss.—አቤል ዳዊት ? (Janweh64) ( talk) 00:50, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
Just wondering if there is any specific reason the accolades are formatted like that. It's just not a way I've ever seen them put together. -- QueerFilmNerd ( talk) 06:19, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
As this is a British Programme, 'series' should be used. It would be nice if Americans could respect other cultures. Not everything needs to be Americanised.
There's clearly an anti-British thing going on here. I can't see why British English shouldn't be used for a British programme. American English isn't correct by default.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:44CB:8F00:D4BE:D385:BC78:D6DF ( talk) 00:04, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
or, said in different manner, could it be added to the Category:Dystopian television series page?
I am having a discussion here with Radiphus about the length of Black Mirror episodes' plot summaries in episode articles such as The National Anthem (Black Mirror). I believe that since Black Mirror is an anthology series so far from what most serialised television is like, the guideline WP:FILMPLOT applies – Black Mirror episodes are like short standalone films (no shared characters between episodes; nominated for some awards in television movie categories), so their plot sections should be subject to the 400–700 word guideline for films. In contrast, Radiphus has opined that the episodes should follow WP:TVPLOT (noting that most episodes are shorter than feature films), and be subject to a 400 word upper limit, and therefore tagged most episode pages with {{ Long plot}}. Which, if either, guideline is appropriate? — Bilorv (talk) (c) (e) 10:49, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
Should we fork the "Accolades" section out to List of awards and nominations received by Black Mirror? I've redirect to page to here for now. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 04:57, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
Fair enough. How does this look? — Bilorv (c) (talk) 02:44, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
Is there information on planning the next series? Тибериум ( talk) 10:13, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
Editors familiar with the featured article process may be interested in the nomination of Black Mirror episode " San Junipero", which can be found here. Thanks! — Bilorv (c) (talk) 21:29, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
[1] At said event she clearly seemed to be under confidentiality, but THR seems to want to take it as fact. Should we hold off until more firm confirmation? -- Masem ( t) 20:04, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
§ Critical response mentions Rotten Tomatoes scores for the seasons. Given that episodes are standalone, perhaps the table below would be a welcome addition at the end of that section? -- 77.173.90.33 ( talk) 13:01, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
S01E01 | S01E02 | S01E03 | S02E01 | S02E02 | S02E03 | S02E04 | Xmas | S03E01 | S03E02 | S03E03 | S03E04 | S03E05 | S03E06 | S04E01 | S04E02 | S04E03 | S04E04 | S04E05 | S04E06 | Bander | S05E01 | S05E02 | S05E03 | |
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RT score | 100% (9/10) | 100% (9.5/10) | 88% (7/10) | 92% (8.25/10) | 86% (8.2/10) | 50% (6/10) | N/A | 93% (8.88/10) | 95% (7.33/10) | 90% (6.8/10) | 64% (8.53/10) | 91% (8.04/10) | 55% (7.4/10) | 78% (8.04/10) | 94% (9.28/10) | 75% (7.43/10) | 53% (6.39/10) | 90% (8.89/10) | 67% (6.87/10) | 73% (6.54/10) | 72% (7.44/10) | 80% (7.37/10) | 61% (7.07/10) | 40% (4.87/10) |
# Reviews | 17 | 12 | 16 | 12 | 14 | 16 | N/A | 15 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 22 | 20 | 18 | 35 | 20 | 17 | 21 | 24 | 22 | 68 | 20 | 18 | 20 |
Ref. | [1] | [2] | [3] | [4] | [5] | [6] | [7] | [8] | [9] | [10] | [11] | [12] | [13] | [14] | [15] | [16] | [17] | [18] | [19] | [20] | [21] | [22] | [23] | [24] |
References
The article currently makes it sound like S5 was trashed by the critics:
Reviews of the fifth season have been less favorable than those of previous seasons. "Season five is a mess, and nothing about it suggests that Black Mirror retains its original, unnerving insight into the ever-blurring borders between the digital and the human", wrote Kathryn VanArendonk at Vulture.
This is pretty unbalanced. The reviews are down from previous seasons, but we're talking about positive (84 on RT) to mostly positive (64 on RT); picking the worst review available to call it "a mess" is hardly reasonable. The RT consensus might be better, something like this:
Reviews of the fifth season have been less favorable than those of previous seasons, although still generally positive. Rotten Tomatoes' critical consensus is: "Though Black Mirror's abbreviated fifth season never quite reaches the heights (or surprises) of previous installments, it remains one of TVs strangest philosophical offerings -- for better or worse."
But does S5 even need its own paragraph in Critical Response? S3 and S4 aren't even mentioned again after giving their scores in the first paragraph. And S5 is listed in that first paragraph; is there a reason that isn't sufficient? I don't think there's any good reason S5 is more significant than S3 or S4; it just feels that way because it just came out. It may be worth rewriting the whole section to not focus so much on S1, S2, and the special episodes. But, failing that, I think the simplest thing is to treat S5 the same as S3 and S4 and not try to synthesize an opinion at all. -- 157.131.246.136 ( talk) 17:58, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
where'd the DETAILS for the webisodes go?! used to have a CHART here with names, plot summaries, and release dates! (at least for the POLISH ones...)
this was later (i think) replaced by a link to the "list of..." page, which i guess briefly housed said chart. i say "briefly", b/c when i checked, the link was 404. bottom line, NEITHER article had the chart anymore.
and now the link is gone anyways! what's the deal?! we're going BACKWARDS -- we've gone from having 4 of the 7 to now having ZERO of the seven!!
can someone pls put the polish ones BACK...and then add the SPANISH?? one or the other of these articles (i vote for the "list of..." one) NEEDS to have the details for these 7 videos! 173.9.95.217 ( talk) 22:27, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
(Note: a couple of messages by the IP editor have been removed, as explained on their talk page ( click here). Leaving this note here just in case they come back to this page but don't see the notification for their talk page.) — Bilorv (he/him) (talk) 23:06, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
The nomination of many fair use images on Black Mirror episodes for deletion at today's Files for discussion will likely be of interest to anyone following this page. Thanks! — Bilorv ( talk) 07:19, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
I was asked to post here. I think that FFD is a centralized discussion space and since I made all of the nominations on the same day, it seems very straightforward to discuss them on the page linked above. If anything, discussion here will make for less centralized discussion. Happy to provide my feedback, etc. but I think that two threads is a recipe for disaster. As pointed out in my FFD nominations and noted by Masem above, the problem is basically the same every time: someone took a more-or-less random screen cap that doesn't actually display any visual information that cannot be conveyed in text (e.g. a person standing in a street), and wrote that the rationale for this image is "key moment in episode". That doesn't fly. Episodes that have unique aesthetics or visual effects or some kind of element that needs a photo to adequately explain it I didn't nominate and would pass NFCC. Additionally, if there are some images that are somehow special and really need consideration or discussion, the FFD can be extended or someone could ask for deletion review. I've nominated several hundred images at FFD (probably over a thousand) and close to 99% have been deleted, usually for the exact same rationale. ― Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 19:41, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Featured and good topic questions § Black Mirror. — Bilorv ( talk) 18:42, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
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Reviewer: The Rambling Man ( talk · contribs) 23:12, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
Work calls, up to "Production". The Rambling Man ( Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 12:40, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
That's all I have. Very nice work. The Rambling Man ( Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 19:37, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
Distributor listed as Endemol Shine UK, but as far as I can tell it is a production company.
EDIT Distributor was probably Endemol B.V., (merged into Endemol Shine Group in 2015)?
Also, the article talks about a company called 'Endemol', but there are several companies spread over various regions to which Endemol could refer. More specificity would be good. Jonpatterns ( talk) 12:53, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
The short wording and inclusion of only one reception creates the premise of a generally well received season. This is factually not the case. The season has a score of 44 % audience ratings at rotten tomatoes: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/black_mirror/s06/reviews?type=user&intcmp=rt-scorecard_audience-score-reviews
There are also numerous articles, which proof the diverse Fan reactions:
https://junkee.com/black-mirror-season-6-review-channel-4-netflix/352297
https://news.yahoo.com/fans-slamming-season-black-mirror-084150034.html?guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmRlLw&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAALM0l00QbxybxKA5ITLKR64hISGKEkcwUrSel62QYS8MPMBVpcNqNDapJPP9jSOmtL_ZQ71F38mLkLN8cnB8ibd4s-mFfBz1BGT20VzmSt-gaL9dt2pVeDGNHSU5N6Nc0fWEm6WrYIoj1--9mILIEgRGiHstKyMOUWgRzv-7OejR Juicy Steak ( talk) 17:44, 30 June 2023 (UTC)