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This article introduces unnecessary confusion into the topic of "Bengalis" in general. Doing a quick wikipedia search for other commonly accepted Indian ethnic group + the "hindu" modifier (e.g. "Marathi hindu", "Gujurati hindu") only yields an article for "Punjabi Hindu". In this case the word "Hindu" is used in the commonly accepted form of one who adheres to the religion of Hinduism. What "Hinduism" refers to and what "religion" connotes are topics of another debate; however it is apparent what the English world's vast majority thinks of Hindus as followers of a religion. If the author insists on having a separate article for this group of people, would it not be more appropriate to be entitled "Indian Bengalis" or "Bengali Indians" as a sub-topic of overarching "Bengali People"?
If the author wishes to resurrect the archaic use of "Hindu" or "Hindoo" as a reference to people who are native to the subcontinent, he is welcome to do so. Note, though, that doing so would mean that even Sikhs, Jains, Muslims, Christians, Buddhists, Animists, etc. would then also be called "Hindus". If the author wishes to resurrect "Hindu" as only referring to "Indians", he is also welcome to do so; however the above religious groups in India would object to this, I'm sure, because of the overwhelmingly common notion that "Hindu" refers to practitioners of Hinduism. If the author wishes to define "Hindu" as Indians who remain loyal to the millenia old traditional practices that fall under the term "Hinduism", well then the author has failed in his ultimate purpose of redefining "Hindu" as an overarching ethnic group rather than a religious group. Though the author does not see "Hindu" as a religious term, the fact that non-dubious religious groups such as Sikhs, Muslims, and Buddhists would reject its application to them suggests the word "Hindu" has gained an inherent religious connotation by exclusion. The author will have to convince these, now assimilated, Indian religious groups that applying "Hindu" to them is appropriate. If the author rejects the idea that "Hindu" can apply to any of the mentioned religious groups, then he is betraying the fact that he, in fact, subscribes to the notion that "Hindu" refers to a separate religious group. In that case would the author be willing to create articles for each religious sub group? After all, they all have very different cultural practices and habits and therefore must be considered separate ethnic groups. Just think, we could have "Konkani Christians", "Assamese Animists", "Bengali Roman Catholics", etc.
It seems rather inappropriate that there should be an article presented as un-debated fact when it runs contrary to commonly accepted notions. Perhaps the article should discuss the movement to reclaim "Hindu" as an ethnic identifier, rather than using "Bengali Hindus" as a pawn in the debate.-- Taajikhan ( talk) 22:19, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
Hindu is not only a person who adheres to Hinduism, but also a person who resides in the Subcontinent and adheres to native belief systems. In India, the official definition of Hindu is given in the Hindu Marriage Act, wherein it states that Hindu is a person who is not a Muslim, Christian, Jew or a Parsee. By that definition Sikhs, Buddhists, Jains, Brahmos all are Hindus. Sikhs, Buddhists, Jains, Brahmos do not have any separate personal law, all of them are governed by Hindu personal laws. Accordingly Rabindranath Tagore, Ram Mohan Roy, Atisa Dipankara all are ethnic Hindus. BengaliHindu ( talk) 09:33, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
Yes there is a cultural integrity and that is more close to ethnicity and may be represented by the word Hindus.We should not get into debate for nothing.The correct source of informations should be given. Any sect believing in origin from Brahma May be thought of as belonging to Hindus or Indus group. 117.194.197.7 ( talk) 07:30, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
The article has a communal epitome innate in its style and is full of misinformation. Bangladesh is officially named as "Peoples Republic of Bangladesh". Despite the rise of religious fanatics in Bangladesh, it is not and was never I repeat never an Islamic Republic. Secondly, since the first Indian census of late 19th century, Sylhet was a slightly majority muslim district. Currently it is overwhelmingly muslim majority district of Bangladesh.So mentioning it as a hindu majority district is sheer lie. Thirdly, the article mentions incorporation of only one Hindu majority district i.e. Khulna to Bangladesh, but remains deliberately silent about awarding two muslin majority districts i.e. Murshidabad and Malda to India. Therefore it is a parochial article which certainly requires re-writing. Al-minar ( talk) 06:01, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
The article sometimes violates Wikipedias NPOV policy. The point of veiw expressed here should adhere to neutral pont of view. Morover it must avoid Weasal words and Peacock sentences.As for example it is stated that Bengali is the most richest language of the sub continent. This style contradicts Wikipedia policy. Unmesh Bangali ( talk) 07:10, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
Most informations of this article are wrong. Some communal sentiment is working behind the concept.Many cultural and religious ideologies have been marginalised. It strongly expresses a Religious cultural Hegemony.This is highly condemnable. People of many different religions have been shown under the Banner of Hindu to marginalise one particular religion. This could be a propaganda of some communal forces. Wikipedia should not promote such article.
Rabindra nath Tagore was not born Hindu and he never adopted Hinduism .Many other such names are there.Shame ! 117.194.193.47 ( talk) 15:17, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
3. Are Brahmos Hindu ? What is the legal position ?
A. That the Brahmo religion is a separate religion - distinct from Hinduism has been repeatedly upheld by the highest Courts in the land.
The 1903 Privy Council Judgement in the matter of "Rani Bhagwan Koer and Ors v. J.C.Bose and Ors." {30 Cal 11} is the landmark caselaw. It was held here:-
Insofar, as the various Hindu Laws are concerned:-
Now-a-days hardly there will we find any follower of Brahmo religion .There may be a Brahmo-samaj .Some official bodies and few organisations. Then why to create so much chaos by wanting them to bring under the same umbrella of Hinduism ( irrespective of whatever may be sense of the word) .We don't understand the people engaged in the debate.If the followers of Brahmo Religion is the main people of renaissance then what is the wrong in it.Why the Bengali Hindus can't accept the truth.What is the problem in identifying the Brahmos as Brahmos.What good a lie would do to us. 117.194.199.167 ( talk) 08:24, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
We knew the truth.Why Kesab Sen came to Brahmo samaj that is also clear as daylight .And later these people converted back to Hinduism and carried out the propaganda to malign Brahmo religion.Now the Hegemony of Hindu Culture.Mr. Bengali Hindu you are becoming a symbol of that .It may be very unfortunate for you but that is what we see clearly. 117.194.195.114 ( talk) 05:14, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Where did the editor find that Budhdhists are Hindus? Atisha Dipankar, the great teacher of Bengal who went all the way to Tibet to preach the Budhdhist religion is tagged here as Hindu. This opinion is narrow, parochial and against historically accepted facts.Majority of Bengalis, whether muslim, budhdhist or even hindu do not subscribe to this view. Minority's view can not be propagated by citing some unreliable biased source. This article therefore should be removed or atleast merged with the article Bengali People. Murad67 ( talk) 09:47, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
Very well said bengali hindu.these bangladeshis try to present themselves as the sole representatives of bengal.in britain they try to spread rumors about islam being the sole religion of bengalis. Plz keep up the good work. It is ESSENTIAL TO TELL HOW BENGALI MUSLIMS HAVE AS A COMMUNITY TREATED BENGALI HINDUS. All talk of bangaliana holds as long as they find fellow muslims.just don't be disheartened by these bangladeshi agents -sockpuppets of jamat-e -islami.
Application of act( Hindu Marriage Act) 1) This act applies
(a) to any person who is a Hindu by religion in any of its forms or developments, including a Virashaiva a Lingayat or a follower of the Brahmo, Prathana or Arya Samaj,
(b) to any person who is a Buddhist, Jaina or Sikh by religion, and
(c) to any other person domiciled in the territories to which this Act extends who is not a Muslim, Christian, Parsi or Jew by religion, unless it is proved that any such person would not have been governed by the Hindu law or by any custom or usage as part of that law in respect of any of the matters dealt with herein it this Act had not been passed. 117.194.206.159 ( talk) 15:10, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
U have done a great job by giving the reference of " Hindu Viswavidyalay" by R.Tagore. It makes your stand substantiated but we think Everyone would feel pity for Tagore. Alas ! U too Brutus at last ! 117.194.196.141 ( talk) 09:27, 5 June 2011 (UTC) arijit
The idealisation of Indus Land Civilisation is an intellectual construct .Tagore's article is an wonderful example of that .We Bengalis( irrespective of any religion) are very fond of such practice .It is like fashion of our intellectualism. What Tagore wrote , he never practised that in real life. The beautiful slokas and hymns , we Hindu Bengalis , quote whenever it is required that we have to be great , is not the Hinduism we practice .Why for nothing quote such people and creating a nuisense .!!??? 117.194.199.0 ( talk) 11:42, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
Dear youngman,
While I was looking at your article & editing in wikipedia, sometimes I was impressed because of your style of sourcing and citations. I was also impressed to see your efforts at this young age. I was proud to see your well articulated linguistic expressions.
I was overwhelmingly proud because you are a Bengali.
Suddenly, I became depressed by realizing that you are infected with the virus of COMMUNALISM! Its true----the dogma of communal feeling has made a brilliant young man like you parochial.
I wish you all success in academic persuits. But at the same time I pray to God that you become a non-communal great human being following the footsteps of Netaji or Bangabandhu- following the ideals of Rabindranath or Nazrul.
The epitome of 'Bangaliana' centres around secularism, for which all the Bengalis are proud of. Neither Jamat-E-Islami nor 'Hindu Mahashbha' can destroy that spirit.May God bless you with true 'Bangaliana' Al-minar ( talk) 05:13, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
If you have realised what Tagore realised then U will find that M.F.Hussain was one of the most eminent and sincerest worshipper of that archetype of civilisation which may be thought of having as much originality similar to that of European continental civilisation .But then why branding it as Hinduism instead of Indus Land Civilisation. 117.194.196.47 ( talk) 07:46, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
ArijitS and others commenting as anonymous users, please try to main proper indentation in the discussion and do not insert new sections in the middle of existing sections. This destroys the readability of the existing discussion. Please create new sections at the end. BengaliHindu ( talk) 06:30, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
The Southern Baptist Convention is the largest Protestant body in the United States. Their journal is a recognized publication. Therefore citation from their journal can't be termed dubious. Therefore I am removing the dubious tag. BengaliHindu ( talk) 07:47, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
Ethnonym section opens with The Hindus are an ethnic group cited with
But, these two sources fail to verify the claim “Hindus are an ethnic group”. rather sources says “Hindu is a person who adheres to Hinduism” with alternative meaning: “an inhabitant or native of Hindustan or India, esp one adhering to Hinduism” . So the claim is nothing but WP:OR. Instead of simply cleaning up, waiting a while for strong source backing this claim (as the whole article grounds on this POV). But, we have to remove unverified sources. » nafSadh did say 20:55, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
Greetings! The facts expressed in the article were from the creator's own point of view and doesn't have an universally accepted neutral point of view. Please, add reliable sources. Please, DO NOT remove the ref improve and unreliable sources tags until the issue has been fixed. Thanks, NickAang 05:13, 26 December 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nickaang ( talk • contribs)
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Hi! Are you sure the unaccountability was not there in ancient Bengali Hindu culture? As far as I know many sects such as "Chandals" were untouchable. [1] --NickAang 16:37, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
The untouchability was strongly there among Bengali Hindus. We don't have to go far as one can easily know this if they read the childhood of Swami Vivekananda as we did in our schooling. I'll be giving more references from the books and elsewhere with 3 to 4 days. I'm sorting them out. The article have numerous facts that are questionable such as "Bengali Hindus wanted a free India while Bengali Muslims wanted a Pakistan", "No untouchability was there among Bengali Hindus" etc. and without a single reference! Anyways, I've fixed the first issue with proper references (ref. 14 & 15). Please, check each section and you'll find. Thanks, NickAang ( talk) 05:53, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
Most of those who are contributing in this talk page appears to be agreeable to the proposal of deletion of this article. Regards Naved77 ( talk) 05:19, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
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Despite this articles AfD was resulted in a keep, the fact that many sources are misrepresented is not resolved. The article is clearly a POV. So User:BengaliHindu do not insist on removing those tags (and do not edit war). Readers have the right to know about these concerns; unless all these concerns are resolved, it doesn't matter whether they were discussed yesterday or decades back. --» nafSadh did say 19:22, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
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Hello creator, As i am seeing the article is missing a lot of things and need to added as fast as you can.. Chaitanya Mahaprabhu is the most famous leader and the biggest puja of gaur bengal is durga puja and also jagadhatri puja which is established by maharaja krishnachandra! Thank you Editor Ishaan Nandi ( talk) 16:31, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
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This article introduces unnecessary confusion into the topic of "Bengalis" in general. Doing a quick wikipedia search for other commonly accepted Indian ethnic group + the "hindu" modifier (e.g. "Marathi hindu", "Gujurati hindu") only yields an article for "Punjabi Hindu". In this case the word "Hindu" is used in the commonly accepted form of one who adheres to the religion of Hinduism. What "Hinduism" refers to and what "religion" connotes are topics of another debate; however it is apparent what the English world's vast majority thinks of Hindus as followers of a religion. If the author insists on having a separate article for this group of people, would it not be more appropriate to be entitled "Indian Bengalis" or "Bengali Indians" as a sub-topic of overarching "Bengali People"?
If the author wishes to resurrect the archaic use of "Hindu" or "Hindoo" as a reference to people who are native to the subcontinent, he is welcome to do so. Note, though, that doing so would mean that even Sikhs, Jains, Muslims, Christians, Buddhists, Animists, etc. would then also be called "Hindus". If the author wishes to resurrect "Hindu" as only referring to "Indians", he is also welcome to do so; however the above religious groups in India would object to this, I'm sure, because of the overwhelmingly common notion that "Hindu" refers to practitioners of Hinduism. If the author wishes to define "Hindu" as Indians who remain loyal to the millenia old traditional practices that fall under the term "Hinduism", well then the author has failed in his ultimate purpose of redefining "Hindu" as an overarching ethnic group rather than a religious group. Though the author does not see "Hindu" as a religious term, the fact that non-dubious religious groups such as Sikhs, Muslims, and Buddhists would reject its application to them suggests the word "Hindu" has gained an inherent religious connotation by exclusion. The author will have to convince these, now assimilated, Indian religious groups that applying "Hindu" to them is appropriate. If the author rejects the idea that "Hindu" can apply to any of the mentioned religious groups, then he is betraying the fact that he, in fact, subscribes to the notion that "Hindu" refers to a separate religious group. In that case would the author be willing to create articles for each religious sub group? After all, they all have very different cultural practices and habits and therefore must be considered separate ethnic groups. Just think, we could have "Konkani Christians", "Assamese Animists", "Bengali Roman Catholics", etc.
It seems rather inappropriate that there should be an article presented as un-debated fact when it runs contrary to commonly accepted notions. Perhaps the article should discuss the movement to reclaim "Hindu" as an ethnic identifier, rather than using "Bengali Hindus" as a pawn in the debate.-- Taajikhan ( talk) 22:19, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
Hindu is not only a person who adheres to Hinduism, but also a person who resides in the Subcontinent and adheres to native belief systems. In India, the official definition of Hindu is given in the Hindu Marriage Act, wherein it states that Hindu is a person who is not a Muslim, Christian, Jew or a Parsee. By that definition Sikhs, Buddhists, Jains, Brahmos all are Hindus. Sikhs, Buddhists, Jains, Brahmos do not have any separate personal law, all of them are governed by Hindu personal laws. Accordingly Rabindranath Tagore, Ram Mohan Roy, Atisa Dipankara all are ethnic Hindus. BengaliHindu ( talk) 09:33, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
Yes there is a cultural integrity and that is more close to ethnicity and may be represented by the word Hindus.We should not get into debate for nothing.The correct source of informations should be given. Any sect believing in origin from Brahma May be thought of as belonging to Hindus or Indus group. 117.194.197.7 ( talk) 07:30, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
The article has a communal epitome innate in its style and is full of misinformation. Bangladesh is officially named as "Peoples Republic of Bangladesh". Despite the rise of religious fanatics in Bangladesh, it is not and was never I repeat never an Islamic Republic. Secondly, since the first Indian census of late 19th century, Sylhet was a slightly majority muslim district. Currently it is overwhelmingly muslim majority district of Bangladesh.So mentioning it as a hindu majority district is sheer lie. Thirdly, the article mentions incorporation of only one Hindu majority district i.e. Khulna to Bangladesh, but remains deliberately silent about awarding two muslin majority districts i.e. Murshidabad and Malda to India. Therefore it is a parochial article which certainly requires re-writing. Al-minar ( talk) 06:01, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
The article sometimes violates Wikipedias NPOV policy. The point of veiw expressed here should adhere to neutral pont of view. Morover it must avoid Weasal words and Peacock sentences.As for example it is stated that Bengali is the most richest language of the sub continent. This style contradicts Wikipedia policy. Unmesh Bangali ( talk) 07:10, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
Most informations of this article are wrong. Some communal sentiment is working behind the concept.Many cultural and religious ideologies have been marginalised. It strongly expresses a Religious cultural Hegemony.This is highly condemnable. People of many different religions have been shown under the Banner of Hindu to marginalise one particular religion. This could be a propaganda of some communal forces. Wikipedia should not promote such article.
Rabindra nath Tagore was not born Hindu and he never adopted Hinduism .Many other such names are there.Shame ! 117.194.193.47 ( talk) 15:17, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
3. Are Brahmos Hindu ? What is the legal position ?
A. That the Brahmo religion is a separate religion - distinct from Hinduism has been repeatedly upheld by the highest Courts in the land.
The 1903 Privy Council Judgement in the matter of "Rani Bhagwan Koer and Ors v. J.C.Bose and Ors." {30 Cal 11} is the landmark caselaw. It was held here:-
Insofar, as the various Hindu Laws are concerned:-
Now-a-days hardly there will we find any follower of Brahmo religion .There may be a Brahmo-samaj .Some official bodies and few organisations. Then why to create so much chaos by wanting them to bring under the same umbrella of Hinduism ( irrespective of whatever may be sense of the word) .We don't understand the people engaged in the debate.If the followers of Brahmo Religion is the main people of renaissance then what is the wrong in it.Why the Bengali Hindus can't accept the truth.What is the problem in identifying the Brahmos as Brahmos.What good a lie would do to us. 117.194.199.167 ( talk) 08:24, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
We knew the truth.Why Kesab Sen came to Brahmo samaj that is also clear as daylight .And later these people converted back to Hinduism and carried out the propaganda to malign Brahmo religion.Now the Hegemony of Hindu Culture.Mr. Bengali Hindu you are becoming a symbol of that .It may be very unfortunate for you but that is what we see clearly. 117.194.195.114 ( talk) 05:14, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Where did the editor find that Budhdhists are Hindus? Atisha Dipankar, the great teacher of Bengal who went all the way to Tibet to preach the Budhdhist religion is tagged here as Hindu. This opinion is narrow, parochial and against historically accepted facts.Majority of Bengalis, whether muslim, budhdhist or even hindu do not subscribe to this view. Minority's view can not be propagated by citing some unreliable biased source. This article therefore should be removed or atleast merged with the article Bengali People. Murad67 ( talk) 09:47, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
Very well said bengali hindu.these bangladeshis try to present themselves as the sole representatives of bengal.in britain they try to spread rumors about islam being the sole religion of bengalis. Plz keep up the good work. It is ESSENTIAL TO TELL HOW BENGALI MUSLIMS HAVE AS A COMMUNITY TREATED BENGALI HINDUS. All talk of bangaliana holds as long as they find fellow muslims.just don't be disheartened by these bangladeshi agents -sockpuppets of jamat-e -islami.
Application of act( Hindu Marriage Act) 1) This act applies
(a) to any person who is a Hindu by religion in any of its forms or developments, including a Virashaiva a Lingayat or a follower of the Brahmo, Prathana or Arya Samaj,
(b) to any person who is a Buddhist, Jaina or Sikh by religion, and
(c) to any other person domiciled in the territories to which this Act extends who is not a Muslim, Christian, Parsi or Jew by religion, unless it is proved that any such person would not have been governed by the Hindu law or by any custom or usage as part of that law in respect of any of the matters dealt with herein it this Act had not been passed. 117.194.206.159 ( talk) 15:10, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
U have done a great job by giving the reference of " Hindu Viswavidyalay" by R.Tagore. It makes your stand substantiated but we think Everyone would feel pity for Tagore. Alas ! U too Brutus at last ! 117.194.196.141 ( talk) 09:27, 5 June 2011 (UTC) arijit
The idealisation of Indus Land Civilisation is an intellectual construct .Tagore's article is an wonderful example of that .We Bengalis( irrespective of any religion) are very fond of such practice .It is like fashion of our intellectualism. What Tagore wrote , he never practised that in real life. The beautiful slokas and hymns , we Hindu Bengalis , quote whenever it is required that we have to be great , is not the Hinduism we practice .Why for nothing quote such people and creating a nuisense .!!??? 117.194.199.0 ( talk) 11:42, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
Dear youngman,
While I was looking at your article & editing in wikipedia, sometimes I was impressed because of your style of sourcing and citations. I was also impressed to see your efforts at this young age. I was proud to see your well articulated linguistic expressions.
I was overwhelmingly proud because you are a Bengali.
Suddenly, I became depressed by realizing that you are infected with the virus of COMMUNALISM! Its true----the dogma of communal feeling has made a brilliant young man like you parochial.
I wish you all success in academic persuits. But at the same time I pray to God that you become a non-communal great human being following the footsteps of Netaji or Bangabandhu- following the ideals of Rabindranath or Nazrul.
The epitome of 'Bangaliana' centres around secularism, for which all the Bengalis are proud of. Neither Jamat-E-Islami nor 'Hindu Mahashbha' can destroy that spirit.May God bless you with true 'Bangaliana' Al-minar ( talk) 05:13, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
If you have realised what Tagore realised then U will find that M.F.Hussain was one of the most eminent and sincerest worshipper of that archetype of civilisation which may be thought of having as much originality similar to that of European continental civilisation .But then why branding it as Hinduism instead of Indus Land Civilisation. 117.194.196.47 ( talk) 07:46, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
ArijitS and others commenting as anonymous users, please try to main proper indentation in the discussion and do not insert new sections in the middle of existing sections. This destroys the readability of the existing discussion. Please create new sections at the end. BengaliHindu ( talk) 06:30, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
The Southern Baptist Convention is the largest Protestant body in the United States. Their journal is a recognized publication. Therefore citation from their journal can't be termed dubious. Therefore I am removing the dubious tag. BengaliHindu ( talk) 07:47, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
Ethnonym section opens with The Hindus are an ethnic group cited with
But, these two sources fail to verify the claim “Hindus are an ethnic group”. rather sources says “Hindu is a person who adheres to Hinduism” with alternative meaning: “an inhabitant or native of Hindustan or India, esp one adhering to Hinduism” . So the claim is nothing but WP:OR. Instead of simply cleaning up, waiting a while for strong source backing this claim (as the whole article grounds on this POV). But, we have to remove unverified sources. » nafSadh did say 20:55, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
Greetings! The facts expressed in the article were from the creator's own point of view and doesn't have an universally accepted neutral point of view. Please, add reliable sources. Please, DO NOT remove the ref improve and unreliable sources tags until the issue has been fixed. Thanks, NickAang 05:13, 26 December 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nickaang ( talk • contribs)
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Hi! Are you sure the unaccountability was not there in ancient Bengali Hindu culture? As far as I know many sects such as "Chandals" were untouchable. [1] --NickAang 16:37, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
The untouchability was strongly there among Bengali Hindus. We don't have to go far as one can easily know this if they read the childhood of Swami Vivekananda as we did in our schooling. I'll be giving more references from the books and elsewhere with 3 to 4 days. I'm sorting them out. The article have numerous facts that are questionable such as "Bengali Hindus wanted a free India while Bengali Muslims wanted a Pakistan", "No untouchability was there among Bengali Hindus" etc. and without a single reference! Anyways, I've fixed the first issue with proper references (ref. 14 & 15). Please, check each section and you'll find. Thanks, NickAang ( talk) 05:53, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
Most of those who are contributing in this talk page appears to be agreeable to the proposal of deletion of this article. Regards Naved77 ( talk) 05:19, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
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Despite this articles AfD was resulted in a keep, the fact that many sources are misrepresented is not resolved. The article is clearly a POV. So User:BengaliHindu do not insist on removing those tags (and do not edit war). Readers have the right to know about these concerns; unless all these concerns are resolved, it doesn't matter whether they were discussed yesterday or decades back. --» nafSadh did say 19:22, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
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The article is required considering the difference between bangladeshi's and Indian bengalis. The article title should have been Indian Bengalis or something like that.
A collage of great Hindu bengali's is needed 3x3. Please limit religious figures only to one line max. A kind request.
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Bengali Hindus's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
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Hello creator, As i am seeing the article is missing a lot of things and need to added as fast as you can.. Chaitanya Mahaprabhu is the most famous leader and the biggest puja of gaur bengal is durga puja and also jagadhatri puja which is established by maharaja krishnachandra! Thank you Editor Ishaan Nandi ( talk) 16:31, 6 February 2024 (UTC)