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In the wikibox at the top of the article, there are a variety of different groups listed as being participants to the conflict. While most of them are well known as part of the Russian and Belarusian opposition, I question whether it would be accurate to label the "National Socialist/White Power" movement as part of the anti-war partisan movement. While hey have been involved in anti-government violence and other forms of terrorism, their campaign of violence predates the Russian-Ukrainian War. Furthermore, these groups have generally been supportive of the war against Ukraine and therefore cannot be credibly labelled as being "anti-war."
For this reason I would recommend that we remove them from the wikibox as an "anti-war opposition group." The only source cited uncritically repeats Russian government claims that they were behind a purported assassination attempt against
Vladimir Solovyov and makes no connection between that event and the broader anti-war partisan movement.
MLPfanficwriter (
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I think the article's name should be changed to '2022-2023 Belarusian and Russian partisan movement', because the movement has dragged into 2023 GramCanMineAway ( talk) 22:37, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
I second this Victor Grigas ( talk) 00:54, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. Per consensus. ā robertsky ( talk) 19:26, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
2022ā2023 Belarusian and Russian partisan movement ā Belarusian and Russian partisan movement (2022āpresent) ā The movement is still active; the proposed article title is in line with Belarusian partisan movement (2020āpresent). TadejM my talk 14:34, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
The article does not only describe acts of sabotage undertaken by more or less organized groups. Partisan is: a member of a military group that fights against soldiers who have taken control of its country ( [1]). Partisans are organized, permanent military or para-military units operating in territory captured by the enemy and taking up arms against him. Sabotage is a completely separate form of resistance. Marcelus ( talk) 08:30, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. There is a consensus to move. While it is up in the air as to whether to move to partisan or resistance title, in consideration of dictionary definitions, it will be moved per nom. ā robertsky ( talk) 03:05, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
Belarusian and Russian partisan movement (2022āpresent) ā Russian partisan movement (2022āpresent) ā Considering that there already is an article for the Belarusian partisan movement, I think this article should soley focus on the Russian partisan movement. We can then merge content about events in Belarus to the above-mentioned article. Charles Essie ( talk) 18:14, 28 January 2024 (UTC) āĀ Relisting.Ā BilledMammal ( talk) 12:59, 10 February 2024 (UTC) āĀ Relisting.Ā voorts ( talk/ contributions) 04:12, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
"persons willing to take up armed and ideological resistance against a government in power or an occupying force".
"a member of an armed group fighting secretly against an occupying force".
"ordinary people, rather than soldiers, who join together to fight enemy soldiers who are occupying their countryand states that it is synonymous with "resistance".
"a secret organisation that fights against authority in an occupied country"by the Oxford Compact Dictionary.
"in the sense of freedom fighters"by Collins
"an underground organization of a conquered or nearly conquered country engaging in sabotage and secret operations against occupation forces and collaborators"by Merriam-Webster (bring them in because I can't get the relevant result from the Oxford Reference dictionary).
"It consequently conveys that the fighting is righteous"- to the extent that it does, resistance appears to do the same thing based on the above dictionary definitions. Additionally, that it might have positive conotations is not an automatic reason not to use it if it is a common name - nobody is proposing changing the titles of French Resistance or Yugoslav Partisans. FOARP ( talk) 09:07, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
I propose redirecting the article to Attacks in Russia during the Russian invasion of Ukraine. It's what most of this article is about, and it would solve the issue of terminology. The attacks in Russia can be merged into that, while the attacks in Belarus can be merged into Belarusian partisan movement (2020āpresent). ā AsarlaĆ ( talk) 21:03, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
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In the wikibox at the top of the article, there are a variety of different groups listed as being participants to the conflict. While most of them are well known as part of the Russian and Belarusian opposition, I question whether it would be accurate to label the "National Socialist/White Power" movement as part of the anti-war partisan movement. While hey have been involved in anti-government violence and other forms of terrorism, their campaign of violence predates the Russian-Ukrainian War. Furthermore, these groups have generally been supportive of the war against Ukraine and therefore cannot be credibly labelled as being "anti-war."
For this reason I would recommend that we remove them from the wikibox as an "anti-war opposition group." The only source cited uncritically repeats Russian government claims that they were behind a purported assassination attempt against
Vladimir Solovyov and makes no connection between that event and the broader anti-war partisan movement.
MLPfanficwriter (
talk) 23:43, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
I think the article's name should be changed to '2022-2023 Belarusian and Russian partisan movement', because the movement has dragged into 2023 GramCanMineAway ( talk) 22:37, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
I second this Victor Grigas ( talk) 00:54, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. Per consensus. ā robertsky ( talk) 19:26, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
2022ā2023 Belarusian and Russian partisan movement ā Belarusian and Russian partisan movement (2022āpresent) ā The movement is still active; the proposed article title is in line with Belarusian partisan movement (2020āpresent). TadejM my talk 14:34, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
The article does not only describe acts of sabotage undertaken by more or less organized groups. Partisan is: a member of a military group that fights against soldiers who have taken control of its country ( [1]). Partisans are organized, permanent military or para-military units operating in territory captured by the enemy and taking up arms against him. Sabotage is a completely separate form of resistance. Marcelus ( talk) 08:30, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. There is a consensus to move. While it is up in the air as to whether to move to partisan or resistance title, in consideration of dictionary definitions, it will be moved per nom. ā robertsky ( talk) 03:05, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
Belarusian and Russian partisan movement (2022āpresent) ā Russian partisan movement (2022āpresent) ā Considering that there already is an article for the Belarusian partisan movement, I think this article should soley focus on the Russian partisan movement. We can then merge content about events in Belarus to the above-mentioned article. Charles Essie ( talk) 18:14, 28 January 2024 (UTC) āĀ Relisting.Ā BilledMammal ( talk) 12:59, 10 February 2024 (UTC) āĀ Relisting.Ā voorts ( talk/ contributions) 04:12, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
"persons willing to take up armed and ideological resistance against a government in power or an occupying force".
"a member of an armed group fighting secretly against an occupying force".
"ordinary people, rather than soldiers, who join together to fight enemy soldiers who are occupying their countryand states that it is synonymous with "resistance".
"a secret organisation that fights against authority in an occupied country"by the Oxford Compact Dictionary.
"in the sense of freedom fighters"by Collins
"an underground organization of a conquered or nearly conquered country engaging in sabotage and secret operations against occupation forces and collaborators"by Merriam-Webster (bring them in because I can't get the relevant result from the Oxford Reference dictionary).
"It consequently conveys that the fighting is righteous"- to the extent that it does, resistance appears to do the same thing based on the above dictionary definitions. Additionally, that it might have positive conotations is not an automatic reason not to use it if it is a common name - nobody is proposing changing the titles of French Resistance or Yugoslav Partisans. FOARP ( talk) 09:07, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
I propose redirecting the article to Attacks in Russia during the Russian invasion of Ukraine. It's what most of this article is about, and it would solve the issue of terminology. The attacks in Russia can be merged into that, while the attacks in Belarus can be merged into Belarusian partisan movement (2020āpresent). ā AsarlaĆ ( talk) 21:03, 19 February 2024 (UTC)