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I wish to expand the text considerably, bringing it up to B-class status. I have already gathered much of the material, but it will take a couple of weeks enter it all, given my typing skills. Be patient, but feel free to advise me of errors. PKKloeppel ( talk) 17:12, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
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I am researching a novel that involves this battle and there is one term used that I can't find a definition for. What the H is a Cottonclad??? Any help would be appreciated.-- CancelHoo72 ( talk) 19:11, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
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This map had me confused until I realized that the top of the map has to be south, not north as we take for granted on modern maps. That's why it shows the "Mortar Fleet" (Union) coming from the left, even though they came from the Gulf of Mexico and the Mississippi flows towards the east at that point. That's also why it shows Fort Jackson on the top and Fort St. Philip on the bottom, but everything else I read says Fort Jackson was on the south side. For instance, the article says "Fort Jackson was on the right (generally west, but here south) bank ..."
I suggest that the caption say "The top of this map is south, not north." Art LaPella ( talk) 17:34, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
References
Sumanuil, you reverted the move
here, with the edit summary: Fix grammar
. Grammatically, we might apply capitalisation to an attributive descriptor such as for a unitary noun phrase that is treated as a proper name - eg Fort Jackson or Fort St Phillip. However, when the descriptor is pluralised, it is not capitalised. The common noun descriptor is no longer part of the unitary phrase where it might be capitalised. Hence, we would prefer to say the rivers Tigris and Euphrates rather than the Rivers Tigris and Euphrates (see
here) or the rivers Rhine and Meuse (see
here). Similarly, we might say President Bush and President Obama but presidents Bush and Obama. I am therefore curious as to why you would assert that capitalising Forts would be correct?
Cinderella157 (
talk) 10:43, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
When it would be correct to say "Fort Jackson and Fort St. Phillip", I don't really see why it should be "forts Jackson and St. Phillip". It's still a proper noun. Nevertheless, I can see an argument for not capitalizing re:unitary nouns. Do what seems right, I only came here in the first place because of a messed-up template. - Sumanuil. (talk to me) 19:46, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not moved - withdrawn by nom. Cinderella157 ( talk) 02:45, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
Battle of Forts Jackson and St. Philip → Battle of forts Jackson and St. Philip – When the capitalised form is changed by pluralisation, it is lowercased. Same principle as MOS:JOBTITLES: President of the United States but presidents of the United States or presidents of the United States and France. Cinderella157 ( talk) 23:37, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
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I wish to expand the text considerably, bringing it up to B-class status. I have already gathered much of the material, but it will take a couple of weeks enter it all, given my typing skills. Be patient, but feel free to advise me of errors. PKKloeppel ( talk) 17:12, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Sorry if this doesn't belong here, delete at will. New to wikiworld.
I am researching a novel that involves this battle and there is one term used that I can't find a definition for. What the H is a Cottonclad??? Any help would be appreciated.-- CancelHoo72 ( talk) 19:11, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
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This map had me confused until I realized that the top of the map has to be south, not north as we take for granted on modern maps. That's why it shows the "Mortar Fleet" (Union) coming from the left, even though they came from the Gulf of Mexico and the Mississippi flows towards the east at that point. That's also why it shows Fort Jackson on the top and Fort St. Philip on the bottom, but everything else I read says Fort Jackson was on the south side. For instance, the article says "Fort Jackson was on the right (generally west, but here south) bank ..."
I suggest that the caption say "The top of this map is south, not north." Art LaPella ( talk) 17:34, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
References
Sumanuil, you reverted the move
here, with the edit summary: Fix grammar
. Grammatically, we might apply capitalisation to an attributive descriptor such as for a unitary noun phrase that is treated as a proper name - eg Fort Jackson or Fort St Phillip. However, when the descriptor is pluralised, it is not capitalised. The common noun descriptor is no longer part of the unitary phrase where it might be capitalised. Hence, we would prefer to say the rivers Tigris and Euphrates rather than the Rivers Tigris and Euphrates (see
here) or the rivers Rhine and Meuse (see
here). Similarly, we might say President Bush and President Obama but presidents Bush and Obama. I am therefore curious as to why you would assert that capitalising Forts would be correct?
Cinderella157 (
talk) 10:43, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
When it would be correct to say "Fort Jackson and Fort St. Phillip", I don't really see why it should be "forts Jackson and St. Phillip". It's still a proper noun. Nevertheless, I can see an argument for not capitalizing re:unitary nouns. Do what seems right, I only came here in the first place because of a messed-up template. - Sumanuil. (talk to me) 19:46, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not moved - withdrawn by nom. Cinderella157 ( talk) 02:45, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
Battle of Forts Jackson and St. Philip → Battle of forts Jackson and St. Philip – When the capitalised form is changed by pluralisation, it is lowercased. Same principle as MOS:JOBTITLES: President of the United States but presidents of the United States or presidents of the United States and France. Cinderella157 ( talk) 23:37, 27 January 2024 (UTC)