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Baronets use the title "Sir" before their name, just as other knights do. This is the first introduction of the idea that a baronetcy is a species of knighthood. Assuming this is actually so, shouldn't we mention this before that line? Marnanel 22:07, Apr 10, 2004 (UTC)
Robert Baden-Powell was granted a Baronet in 1922 and the Baron Baden-Powell is now a peerage title in the United Kingdom. I included Robert Baden-Powell on the small list of notables in the article because he did indeed have the Baronet, though the title is now a peerage title. It's all a bit confusing/conflicting, but I think he warrants inclusion unless there's a good reason not to. -- ABQCat 19:46, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I put species back in because a baronetcy isn't quite like a knighthood, and type would suggest that it's on the level of the Thistle or something. Mackensen (talk) 04:01, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)
A baronetcy is entirely different to a knighthood - to write that it is a species is a confusing misnomer. It is a class of its own, solely within the British honours system. It is based on the idea of knighthood, hence the pre-nominal 'Sir', but otherwise it is wholly separate, as well as having a place in the order of precedence higher than most knighthoods. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.201.187.33 ( talk) 22:47, 30 March 2005 (UTC)
I think perhaps we ought to mention somewhere that the correct (but never used) form for a baronet's wife is Dame and that Lady is a social, if pervasive and historic, courtesy title not a matter of law or creation Alci12. — Preceding undated comment added 14:33, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
Can anyone translate these figures into modern values? Are we talking 100s, 1,000s, or millions of £? Avalon 04:30, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
Is a baronet entitled to supporters on their achievement of arms, as peers and knights are? I realise this information is more about heraldry than titles per se, but I haven't been able to find confirmation of this anywhere. Walton monarchist89 13:47, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
How many baronetcies can pass to women? — Tamfang 06:34, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
Does one have to be a British citizen - or otherwise a subject of Her Majesty through holding another type of British nationality, or citizenship of a Commonwealth Realm - in order to be granted a baronetcy? JAJ 23:11, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
I'm dubious about having him in the "Baronets who do not use their baronetcy" catagory. I've seen him introduced on the BBC twice this week, and easily enough found in press articles, addressed with his title which if he was one of those people who 'strictly' don't use their title seems very odd. Alci12 10:10, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
The length of the first section introduction is a bit long. Most think of the first paragraph of an encyclopedic entry to be a summary of sort before you get into the meat of the article. I'm I in the minority of this view or is there a way to tidy it up by maybe creating another section heading? 205.157.110.11 00:36, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
In view of the current "Cash for Honours" scandal, it would be interesting to know what the rate of charge for a baronetage has been, over the years since James Stuart introduced the title, purely as a fundraising device. There seem to have been a lot of very wealthy men created baronets, in the 19th C.
Was it a standard practice to create a baronet after they had given a specific service? The ODNB on Sir Robert Nicholas Fowler says
" He received a baronetcy from Lord Salisbury in 1885, a common honour for a former lord mayor, and in the next election, in July 1886, he was returned unopposed."
Was there a list of jobs that gained this honour, or was a substantial payment? Is there a good history book that will tell me about this? The article lacks much by way of citations.
=== Vernon White (talk) 00:22, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
I've altered special clauses to remainders as they all seemd to relate to succession which is a remainder. There are a few baronets where precedence is assigned (rather than the normal by date system) I suppose that might be considered a special clause but only matters for a handful of examples. Alci12 17:32, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
"Originally baronets also had other rights, including the right to have their eldest son knighted on his 21st birthday. However, beginning in the reign of George IV these rights have been gradually revoked (by Order in Privy Council which was not competent to make such an Order revoking a right granted by a Sovereign), on the grounds that sovereigns should not be bound by acts made by their predecessors."
Since the award of any knighthood is an exercise of preogative power the refusal to grant is, irrespective of the promise of knighthood in patents prior to ~1827, rather moot. Alci12 16:17, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
In the case of foreign borents, can they use the title "Sir" and "Lady" even they are not the citizens of the UK and commonwealth countries?-- 219.79.184.92 16:51, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
I have always understood that the title of baronet can only be passed to an eldest son and that if a baronet fails to produce a male heir (or that heir is disinclined to pursue the matter) the title will become extinct. Since it seems unlikely that many new baronetcies will be granted in the future the number of baronetcies can only decline and eventually the title will disappear altogether. Is this correct? - 81.145.241.123 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.2.197.213 ( talk) 13:18, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
Without looking it up my understanding was that any male descendants of the original creation can inherit. So even if all the males in the 20th century finally died out, and the baronetcy was created, say, in 1800, then there may be male descendants of the first baronet throughout the 19th century who have escaped notice in the 20th, being so far removed, but who will still have a claim if everyone else in between has failed and could be traced. David Lauder 11:22, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Most of the older writers refer to baronets as "knights-baronets". Is this incorrect? What does it say on the patents? (I could go and look at one but I am hoping that kittybrewster might look at his!) David Lauder 14:28, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
I don't understand this bit. The rights were revoked by an instrument which was not competent to do so? Marnanel 13:30, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
I was wondering if anybody knows who the youngest first creation of a baronet was? I recently created Sir James Rushout, 1st Baronet, who was created a baronet at the age of 17. Is he the youngest? -- New Progressive 20:51, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
These words are used and are not defined, can someone define them please:
Thanks. BeckyAnne (talk) 04:04, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
Now that British hereditary peers are not automatically entitled to sit in the House of Lords, and can be elected to the Commons, is there any real distinction between Baronetages and other hereditary titles? -- Jfruh ( talk) 00:20, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
Hello! I have a question about formating for entries here on Wiki for Baronets. I have seen some entries as 'Sir So and So' and others that have a first and last name, then the 11th Baronet. What is the correct entry format here in Wiki for a biography of a baronet? ♦Drachenfyre♦· Talk 12:38, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Although the article on Sir William states unequivocally that he was a baronet, and his baronetcy appears in the general list, he is not mentioned in 'baronetcies created on recommendation of the canadian government'. would that not have been the case? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Toyokuni3 ( talk • contribs) 03:16, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
If a baronet becomes a Baron, Earl or whatever, does the "Bt." postnominal get subsumed? A baronetcy is neither a peerage nor exactly the same as a knighthood. A knight who becomes a peer still has the relevant postnominal, eg. Lord Smith of London, KCMG. Why not Lord Jones of Glasgow, Bt.? I ask this because we don't have "Bt." after Robert Baden-Powell's name, but I suspect we should. -- JackofOz ( talk) 00:48, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Whitehall, April 14, 1923.
The KING has been pleased to give and grant unto Lieutenant-General Sir Robert Stephenson Smyth Baden-Powell Bt., G.C.V.O., K.C.B., His Majesty's Royal licence and authority to wear the Cross of Commander
of the Legion of Honour...
Whitehall, November 6, 1929.
The KING has been pleased to give and grant unto Lieutenant-General The Lord Baden-Powell, G.C.M.G., G.C.V.O., K.C.B., His Majesty's Royal licence and authority to
wear the Insignia of the Order of the White Lion...
I have suggested that the new page Order of Baronets be merged here. It is an account of the dates of establishment of the various baronetages, and effectively duplicates/overlaps with information on this page. Regards, Jonathan Oldenbuck ( talk) 08:34, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
This following paragraph is just plain misleading:
Baronetcies have four European equivalents from a ranking perspective: the Italian title of nobility Nobile, the Austrian and South German title of Edler von, extinct old-Polish panek ("lordling") and the Hungarian - (úr - földesúr) baronet is a title of nobility (peerage) known also as the hereditary territorial and manorial feudal lord of "von" ... (Example: Johanus Turcsányi von Turcsány), and Ritter and the Dutch Erfridder, may be held to be similar. There were originally three hereditary knighthoods in Ireland, of which two remain today.
There are several major things wrong with that paragraph and there may be more. Firstly, a baronetcy is not a title of nobility nor does it have anything to do with a peerage. I also happen to know that neither Poland nor Hungary had a peerage system. Secondly an Italian Nobile is the equivalent of the British style "The Honourable", used for the children of titled nobles, and has no connection whatsoever with baronetcies. Thirdly, the closest German equivalent to a baronet is a Ritter not an Edler. An Edler approximates an esquire. 121.73.7.84 ( talk) 05:22, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
It has been removed as of today since there are no objections. Also removed is the following: "The name baronet is a diminutive of the peerage title baron. The rank of a baronet is between that of a baron and a knight."
Many knights rank above Baronets. Those of the Orders of the Garter, the Thistle, and St. Patrick, respectively precede baronets. It is also misleading to link the status of baronet to the title of baron (on the basis that they sound similar), since baronetcies are neither a form of baron nor nobility nor peerages. A better comparison would be to a banneret. 121.73.7.84 ( talk) 03:15, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
Citation 1 in this article appears to be nothing but original research. Unless this can be seriously cleaned up and properly sourced, I propose to remove it.-- Korruski ( talk) 09:24, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
I'm just wondering, as the idea of Baronetcy itself seems notable (hence this page being here!), does it follow that all Baronets are inherently notable? I've come across several lists of Baronets, for example the Bellingham Baronets, where the list is incomplete, but am not sure whether it's worth my time putting stub articles in, or whether they're just going to be deleted as somebody thinks they're not notable, because in their country they don't HAVE Baronets? Jcuk ( talk) 21:30, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
The article instructs how one should address the wife of a baronet, but not the husband of a baronetess. 71.219.173.1 ( talk) 23:48, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
The first paragraph of the History section, and the first paragraph of the quoted source, are pretty much identical - this looks silly. One of them should go. They are slightly different: the main paragraph names the eight baronetcies, the quote the bit about losing the right of summons to Parliament. It feels to me a fairly blatant act of plagiarism to ditch the quote without substantially rewording the main paragraph. 212.44.43.80 ( talk) 13:58, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
"The current holder of the title is Sir Nicholas Bacon, 14th Baronet, whose title was created by King Charles I in 1611." But in 1611, the future Charles I was an eleven-year-old boy. Is there a mistake somewhere? ( RJPe ( talk) 15:45, 3 April 2011 (UTC))
This doesn't make a lot of sense. The text says that the hand should be the left (sinister) one, and then says a mistake has been made, because the hand is the right (dexter) one. But if you look at the picture of the badge, the thumb is on the left of the palm, and the creases of the fingers and palm are clearly drawn in white over the red hand. Since you only have creases on the inside of the hand, then the hand depicted must be the left hand, as intended. 4th September, 6:27 UTC — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.201.58.148 ( talk) 05:27, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
Under History of the term:
According to The Official Roll of the Baronetage:
A Google search for "Battle of Barrenberg" redirects to "Battle of Battenberg". If "Search instead for Battle of Barrenberg" is chosen instead, this (Baronet) article tops the list, and the other hits seem all to point to this article's text or to the source from which it was taken (lacking a citation, incidentally). Can anyone cast light on this? Was there perhaps a transcription error of some kind in some old text? Frankly, I'm having trouble finding anything on a "Battle of Battenberg" OR a "Battle of Barrenberg". Heavenlyblue ( talk) 22:41, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
His article says he has the right to create Nova Scotia Baronets. How is that? I though only the Crown could do that. 77.69.34.203 ( talk) 12:26, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
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Several articles use the terms baronet, baronetage and baronetcy. Only baronet is defined (in the [[baronet][ article), but the other two terms are not despite the fact that both baronetage and baronetcy are redirects to baronet. Could someone who knows what these terms mean spell out their definitions please? JanCeuleers ( talk) 07:30, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
Is this a list of Baronetcies recommended by British colonies and dominions? If so the heading should be amended. Since all have the title 'Sir' it assumes all are British subjects. Since all are British subjects how can any be British expatriates or non-British nationals? Anthony Staunton ( talk) 23:01, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
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Can someone please 'realign' last two sentences of above please?
I made an amendment ie from Peers to Dukes; Marquesses and Earls as daughters of Viscounts and Barons din ne get Lady courtesy but my archaic phone has completely buggerd the textual alignment and all attempts to correct it seem to make matters worse - oh the joys of being pedantic! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Orgdanptw ( talk • contribs) 23:49, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
I'm sorry to have to raise this, but the last two-and-a-half sentences of the first paragraph of the History of the term section appear to be a copyright violation. They were added in this commit on 30 Sep 2006 by Kittybrewster, and have been lifted, word for word, from a page on the website of The Standing Council of the Baronetage. The Wayback Machine demonstrates that this text was the on Standing Council of the Baronetage's website before it was copied to Wikipedia. This could well have been an inadvertent copyright violation, but I think it is necessary to remove the offending text. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.69.45.16 ( talk) 22:25, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
I heard once that it was promised to the first baronets that no new higher title would ever be created. This came up when it was proposed to make Winston Churchill a super-duke, called a "Consul". I have no idea how to document that. — Tamfang ( talk) 23:04, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
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Baronets use the title "Sir" before their name, just as other knights do. This is the first introduction of the idea that a baronetcy is a species of knighthood. Assuming this is actually so, shouldn't we mention this before that line? Marnanel 22:07, Apr 10, 2004 (UTC)
Robert Baden-Powell was granted a Baronet in 1922 and the Baron Baden-Powell is now a peerage title in the United Kingdom. I included Robert Baden-Powell on the small list of notables in the article because he did indeed have the Baronet, though the title is now a peerage title. It's all a bit confusing/conflicting, but I think he warrants inclusion unless there's a good reason not to. -- ABQCat 19:46, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I put species back in because a baronetcy isn't quite like a knighthood, and type would suggest that it's on the level of the Thistle or something. Mackensen (talk) 04:01, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)
A baronetcy is entirely different to a knighthood - to write that it is a species is a confusing misnomer. It is a class of its own, solely within the British honours system. It is based on the idea of knighthood, hence the pre-nominal 'Sir', but otherwise it is wholly separate, as well as having a place in the order of precedence higher than most knighthoods. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.201.187.33 ( talk) 22:47, 30 March 2005 (UTC)
I think perhaps we ought to mention somewhere that the correct (but never used) form for a baronet's wife is Dame and that Lady is a social, if pervasive and historic, courtesy title not a matter of law or creation Alci12. — Preceding undated comment added 14:33, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
Can anyone translate these figures into modern values? Are we talking 100s, 1,000s, or millions of £? Avalon 04:30, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
Is a baronet entitled to supporters on their achievement of arms, as peers and knights are? I realise this information is more about heraldry than titles per se, but I haven't been able to find confirmation of this anywhere. Walton monarchist89 13:47, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
How many baronetcies can pass to women? — Tamfang 06:34, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
Does one have to be a British citizen - or otherwise a subject of Her Majesty through holding another type of British nationality, or citizenship of a Commonwealth Realm - in order to be granted a baronetcy? JAJ 23:11, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
I'm dubious about having him in the "Baronets who do not use their baronetcy" catagory. I've seen him introduced on the BBC twice this week, and easily enough found in press articles, addressed with his title which if he was one of those people who 'strictly' don't use their title seems very odd. Alci12 10:10, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
The length of the first section introduction is a bit long. Most think of the first paragraph of an encyclopedic entry to be a summary of sort before you get into the meat of the article. I'm I in the minority of this view or is there a way to tidy it up by maybe creating another section heading? 205.157.110.11 00:36, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
In view of the current "Cash for Honours" scandal, it would be interesting to know what the rate of charge for a baronetage has been, over the years since James Stuart introduced the title, purely as a fundraising device. There seem to have been a lot of very wealthy men created baronets, in the 19th C.
Was it a standard practice to create a baronet after they had given a specific service? The ODNB on Sir Robert Nicholas Fowler says
" He received a baronetcy from Lord Salisbury in 1885, a common honour for a former lord mayor, and in the next election, in July 1886, he was returned unopposed."
Was there a list of jobs that gained this honour, or was a substantial payment? Is there a good history book that will tell me about this? The article lacks much by way of citations.
=== Vernon White (talk) 00:22, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
I've altered special clauses to remainders as they all seemd to relate to succession which is a remainder. There are a few baronets where precedence is assigned (rather than the normal by date system) I suppose that might be considered a special clause but only matters for a handful of examples. Alci12 17:32, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
"Originally baronets also had other rights, including the right to have their eldest son knighted on his 21st birthday. However, beginning in the reign of George IV these rights have been gradually revoked (by Order in Privy Council which was not competent to make such an Order revoking a right granted by a Sovereign), on the grounds that sovereigns should not be bound by acts made by their predecessors."
Since the award of any knighthood is an exercise of preogative power the refusal to grant is, irrespective of the promise of knighthood in patents prior to ~1827, rather moot. Alci12 16:17, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
In the case of foreign borents, can they use the title "Sir" and "Lady" even they are not the citizens of the UK and commonwealth countries?-- 219.79.184.92 16:51, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
I have always understood that the title of baronet can only be passed to an eldest son and that if a baronet fails to produce a male heir (or that heir is disinclined to pursue the matter) the title will become extinct. Since it seems unlikely that many new baronetcies will be granted in the future the number of baronetcies can only decline and eventually the title will disappear altogether. Is this correct? - 81.145.241.123 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.2.197.213 ( talk) 13:18, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
Without looking it up my understanding was that any male descendants of the original creation can inherit. So even if all the males in the 20th century finally died out, and the baronetcy was created, say, in 1800, then there may be male descendants of the first baronet throughout the 19th century who have escaped notice in the 20th, being so far removed, but who will still have a claim if everyone else in between has failed and could be traced. David Lauder 11:22, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Most of the older writers refer to baronets as "knights-baronets". Is this incorrect? What does it say on the patents? (I could go and look at one but I am hoping that kittybrewster might look at his!) David Lauder 14:28, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
I don't understand this bit. The rights were revoked by an instrument which was not competent to do so? Marnanel 13:30, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
I was wondering if anybody knows who the youngest first creation of a baronet was? I recently created Sir James Rushout, 1st Baronet, who was created a baronet at the age of 17. Is he the youngest? -- New Progressive 20:51, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
These words are used and are not defined, can someone define them please:
Thanks. BeckyAnne (talk) 04:04, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
Now that British hereditary peers are not automatically entitled to sit in the House of Lords, and can be elected to the Commons, is there any real distinction between Baronetages and other hereditary titles? -- Jfruh ( talk) 00:20, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
Hello! I have a question about formating for entries here on Wiki for Baronets. I have seen some entries as 'Sir So and So' and others that have a first and last name, then the 11th Baronet. What is the correct entry format here in Wiki for a biography of a baronet? ♦Drachenfyre♦· Talk 12:38, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Although the article on Sir William states unequivocally that he was a baronet, and his baronetcy appears in the general list, he is not mentioned in 'baronetcies created on recommendation of the canadian government'. would that not have been the case? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Toyokuni3 ( talk • contribs) 03:16, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
If a baronet becomes a Baron, Earl or whatever, does the "Bt." postnominal get subsumed? A baronetcy is neither a peerage nor exactly the same as a knighthood. A knight who becomes a peer still has the relevant postnominal, eg. Lord Smith of London, KCMG. Why not Lord Jones of Glasgow, Bt.? I ask this because we don't have "Bt." after Robert Baden-Powell's name, but I suspect we should. -- JackofOz ( talk) 00:48, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Whitehall, April 14, 1923.
The KING has been pleased to give and grant unto Lieutenant-General Sir Robert Stephenson Smyth Baden-Powell Bt., G.C.V.O., K.C.B., His Majesty's Royal licence and authority to wear the Cross of Commander
of the Legion of Honour...
Whitehall, November 6, 1929.
The KING has been pleased to give and grant unto Lieutenant-General The Lord Baden-Powell, G.C.M.G., G.C.V.O., K.C.B., His Majesty's Royal licence and authority to
wear the Insignia of the Order of the White Lion...
I have suggested that the new page Order of Baronets be merged here. It is an account of the dates of establishment of the various baronetages, and effectively duplicates/overlaps with information on this page. Regards, Jonathan Oldenbuck ( talk) 08:34, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
This following paragraph is just plain misleading:
Baronetcies have four European equivalents from a ranking perspective: the Italian title of nobility Nobile, the Austrian and South German title of Edler von, extinct old-Polish panek ("lordling") and the Hungarian - (úr - földesúr) baronet is a title of nobility (peerage) known also as the hereditary territorial and manorial feudal lord of "von" ... (Example: Johanus Turcsányi von Turcsány), and Ritter and the Dutch Erfridder, may be held to be similar. There were originally three hereditary knighthoods in Ireland, of which two remain today.
There are several major things wrong with that paragraph and there may be more. Firstly, a baronetcy is not a title of nobility nor does it have anything to do with a peerage. I also happen to know that neither Poland nor Hungary had a peerage system. Secondly an Italian Nobile is the equivalent of the British style "The Honourable", used for the children of titled nobles, and has no connection whatsoever with baronetcies. Thirdly, the closest German equivalent to a baronet is a Ritter not an Edler. An Edler approximates an esquire. 121.73.7.84 ( talk) 05:22, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
It has been removed as of today since there are no objections. Also removed is the following: "The name baronet is a diminutive of the peerage title baron. The rank of a baronet is between that of a baron and a knight."
Many knights rank above Baronets. Those of the Orders of the Garter, the Thistle, and St. Patrick, respectively precede baronets. It is also misleading to link the status of baronet to the title of baron (on the basis that they sound similar), since baronetcies are neither a form of baron nor nobility nor peerages. A better comparison would be to a banneret. 121.73.7.84 ( talk) 03:15, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
Citation 1 in this article appears to be nothing but original research. Unless this can be seriously cleaned up and properly sourced, I propose to remove it.-- Korruski ( talk) 09:24, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
I'm just wondering, as the idea of Baronetcy itself seems notable (hence this page being here!), does it follow that all Baronets are inherently notable? I've come across several lists of Baronets, for example the Bellingham Baronets, where the list is incomplete, but am not sure whether it's worth my time putting stub articles in, or whether they're just going to be deleted as somebody thinks they're not notable, because in their country they don't HAVE Baronets? Jcuk ( talk) 21:30, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
The article instructs how one should address the wife of a baronet, but not the husband of a baronetess. 71.219.173.1 ( talk) 23:48, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
The first paragraph of the History section, and the first paragraph of the quoted source, are pretty much identical - this looks silly. One of them should go. They are slightly different: the main paragraph names the eight baronetcies, the quote the bit about losing the right of summons to Parliament. It feels to me a fairly blatant act of plagiarism to ditch the quote without substantially rewording the main paragraph. 212.44.43.80 ( talk) 13:58, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
"The current holder of the title is Sir Nicholas Bacon, 14th Baronet, whose title was created by King Charles I in 1611." But in 1611, the future Charles I was an eleven-year-old boy. Is there a mistake somewhere? ( RJPe ( talk) 15:45, 3 April 2011 (UTC))
This doesn't make a lot of sense. The text says that the hand should be the left (sinister) one, and then says a mistake has been made, because the hand is the right (dexter) one. But if you look at the picture of the badge, the thumb is on the left of the palm, and the creases of the fingers and palm are clearly drawn in white over the red hand. Since you only have creases on the inside of the hand, then the hand depicted must be the left hand, as intended. 4th September, 6:27 UTC — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.201.58.148 ( talk) 05:27, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
Under History of the term:
According to The Official Roll of the Baronetage:
A Google search for "Battle of Barrenberg" redirects to "Battle of Battenberg". If "Search instead for Battle of Barrenberg" is chosen instead, this (Baronet) article tops the list, and the other hits seem all to point to this article's text or to the source from which it was taken (lacking a citation, incidentally). Can anyone cast light on this? Was there perhaps a transcription error of some kind in some old text? Frankly, I'm having trouble finding anything on a "Battle of Battenberg" OR a "Battle of Barrenberg". Heavenlyblue ( talk) 22:41, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
His article says he has the right to create Nova Scotia Baronets. How is that? I though only the Crown could do that. 77.69.34.203 ( talk) 12:26, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
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Can anyone explain why Dame Mary Bolles, Btss is linked to an article on a RC bishop who has no apparent connection to her (but for the (maiden) surname) at all? Mithrennaith ( talk) 01:10, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
Several articles use the terms baronet, baronetage and baronetcy. Only baronet is defined (in the [[baronet][ article), but the other two terms are not despite the fact that both baronetage and baronetcy are redirects to baronet. Could someone who knows what these terms mean spell out their definitions please? JanCeuleers ( talk) 07:30, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
Is this a list of Baronetcies recommended by British colonies and dominions? If so the heading should be amended. Since all have the title 'Sir' it assumes all are British subjects. Since all are British subjects how can any be British expatriates or non-British nationals? Anthony Staunton ( talk) 23:01, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
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Can someone please 'realign' last two sentences of above please?
I made an amendment ie from Peers to Dukes; Marquesses and Earls as daughters of Viscounts and Barons din ne get Lady courtesy but my archaic phone has completely buggerd the textual alignment and all attempts to correct it seem to make matters worse - oh the joys of being pedantic! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Orgdanptw ( talk • contribs) 23:49, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
I'm sorry to have to raise this, but the last two-and-a-half sentences of the first paragraph of the History of the term section appear to be a copyright violation. They were added in this commit on 30 Sep 2006 by Kittybrewster, and have been lifted, word for word, from a page on the website of The Standing Council of the Baronetage. The Wayback Machine demonstrates that this text was the on Standing Council of the Baronetage's website before it was copied to Wikipedia. This could well have been an inadvertent copyright violation, but I think it is necessary to remove the offending text. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.69.45.16 ( talk) 22:25, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
I heard once that it was promised to the first baronets that no new higher title would ever be created. This came up when it was proposed to make Winston Churchill a super-duke, called a "Consul". I have no idea how to document that. — Tamfang ( talk) 23:04, 12 October 2023 (UTC)